Should Infernape return to Paul?

Should Infernape return to Paul?

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I've seen people discussing about this, so I thought - why not? Let me see you opinions in this thread instead of blabbing about it in the review thread. Now, shall we? :p Seeing as Paul is going to change somewhat, there are people thinking that Infernape should go back to its original trainer. Do you agree?
 
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No. Its like saying a child who was abused by a parent in real life, (Chimchar), should want to go back to that same abusive parent when they're a teenager (Infernape).

Seriously, this is ridiculous. Paul also shouldn't get a fully evolved powerful Pokemon for no reason.

I also get the feeling Paul won't be appearing in the anime anymore, yet the writers still want Ash to use Infernape in the future, so I don't see it.
 
No. Why would it return to Paul when it was stated that Ash is more compatible with Infernape?
 
Absolutely Not! Paul abandoned Chimchar, therefore he shouldn't get him back.

Plus, he doesn't deserve to have Infernape after the way he treated him.
 
I don't see Paul just outright changing his ways after battling and losing to Ash. He may learn how to respect the training styles of others, but I doubt he'll pull a complete 180, considering that his training style also works for the Pokemon he does have.

Chimchar was incompatible with his training style, and so it basically suffered under him, as well as gained the obvious mental scarring that was shown a few times. It constantly fell short of its potential due to being unable to handle the way Paul trained.

However, we have all seen that since being picked up by Ash, Chimchar has thrived and has managed to grow, evolving and becoming a competent and worthwhile battler. It was because of Ash that this has managed to happen.

Infernape going back to Paul will not be the 'closure' that so many people think it will be. It would basically just be it going back to the one that had abused it back when it was a Chimchar, and just because it is fully evolved now does not mean that it would suddenly prefer the idea of going back to Paul's style of training. That would basically be ignoring both the bond between Infernape and Ash as well as ignoring everything that had happened during the Chimchar plot.

Unless they suddenly screw Paul's character over, they are not going to have him suddenly change and become a nice guy, modifying his training style -- which actually does work for the Pokemon he has, -- and treating Infernape all fairly.


Of course, that's not to say that they couldn't end up doing that either. After all, Ash has had three monkey Pokemon, with two of those three having been basically given away/traded/whatever to other people. Whether Infernape will share the same fate as Primape and Aipom is yet to be seen. It'd be nice if that didn't happen, but...
 
Konoko Hasano said:
After all, Ash has had three monkey Pokemon, with two of those three having been basically given away/traded/whatever to other people. Whether Infernape will share the same fate as Primape and Aipom is yet to be seen. It'd be nice if that didn't happen, but...
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Infernape is a Starter pokemon, starters take priority over wild pokemon in terms of premotion in the anime.

Why people want Infernape to go back to Paul is beyond me.
 
I say no.

Gliscor'd said:
No. Its like saying a child who was abused by a parent in real life, (Chimchar), should want to go back to that same abusive parent when they're a teenager (Infernape).
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This is the best way to describe the situation.

Giving Infernape back to Paul wouldn't solve anything. Infernape is like a momento of Ash and Paul's rivalry in a way. And Ash raised it to become stronger and to finally defeat Paul. It's rightfully Ash's Pokemon.

If Paul released and gave up on it he doesn't deserve to have it back.
 
Chaosblazer said:
Infernape is a Starter pokemon, starters take priority over wild pokemon in terms of premotion in the anime.

Why people want Infernape to go back to Paul is beyond me.
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Yeah, I know, though the track record on monkey Pokemon isn't exactly a good one, and so it's not strange to wonder if it would happen.

Eh, I think many of the people who want Infernape to go back to Paul are the ones who are biased against it and annoyed at it for 'stealing the show' or something.

Either that or they are people who think that things in Pokemon are perfect, and that Paul would magically change how he acts and stuff.
 
I don't think Paul want it anyway. It still can't activate Blaze on command right?
 
Mijzelffan said:
I don't think Paul want it anyway. It still can't activate Blaze on command right?
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Yeah, but doesn't Blaze -- like Overgrow, Torrent, and Swarm -- only activate when the Pokemon is weakened enough? As such, 'getting Blaze to activate on command' is a foolish idea on Paul's part.
 
No, and I am not going to give my reasons because it's useless to argue with people here.
 
Konoko Hasano said:
I don't see Paul just outright changing his ways after battling and losing to Ash. He may learn how to respect the training styles of others, but I doubt he'll pull a complete 180, considering that his training style also works for the Pokemon he does have.

Chimchar was incompatible with his training style, and so it basically suffered under him, as well as gained the obvious mental scarring that was shown a few times. It constantly fell short of its potential due to being unable to handle the way Paul trained.

However, we have all seen that since being picked up by Ash, Chimchar has thrived and has managed to grow, evolving and becoming a competent and worthwhile battler. It was because of Ash that this has managed to happen.

Infernape going back to Paul will not be the 'closure' that so many people think it will be. It would basically just be it going back to the one that had abused it back when it was a Chimchar, and just because it is fully evolved now does not mean that it would suddenly prefer the idea of going back to Paul's style of training. That would basically be ignoring both the bond between Infernape and Ash as well as ignoring everything that had happened during the Chimchar plot.

Unless they suddenly screw Paul's character over, they are not going to have him suddenly change and become a nice guy, modifying his training style -- which actually does work for the Pokemon he has, -- and treating Infernape all fairly.


Of course, that's not to say that they couldn't end up doing that either. After all, Ash has had three monkey Pokemon, with two of those three having been basically given away/traded/whatever to other people. Whether Infernape will share the same fate as Primape and Aipom is yet to be seen. It'd be nice if that didn't happen, but...
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Pretty much agree. I could understand where people are coming from about Infernape going to Paul. But I don't want it to happen nor do I think it makes the best sense imo. I mean let's look at the three characters involved with this, Ash, Infernape, and Paul.

Sure Ash and Infernape are forgiving, but Ash isn't the type to be like, "oh hey Paul, why don't you take Infernape back". Ash is not gonna be the one to initiate something like that unless Infernape wants to. So that cuts to Infernape. Sure Infernape may forgive Paul but we've all see how much happier it was with Ash. How much of a bond and how much it loves Ash. Even though Infernape would forgive Paul in the end, is that really going to make Infernape all of a sudden go back to Paul? I don't think so, Infernape can still forgive Paul while still sticking with Ash.

So then there's Paul. I don't think Paul's one to change all of a sudden either. The battle isn't about changing training styles at all. It's to how each trainer's training works for their pokemon. Paul has been shown that with the pokemon he has now, his training works. Now it's Ash's turn to show that (sure there's the whole Gliscor thing but when it comes to Infernape, I think this whole idea still stands). And there's also the fact that the summaries said something like what was once Paul's is now confident because it was with Ash. Then other characters have said how Infernape fits/is much happier with Ash. There's support for Ash and Infernape being a great team and with Paul seeing how much Infernape looks awesome with Ash, I don't think he'd take back Infernape knowing how much Infernape was better off with Ash and his friends. Infernape wouldn't be this strong without Ash and with that, I doubt Paul would be selfish and take Infernape back after everything Ash and Infernape have been through.

Now I know some people complain that it will rot at Oak's anyway but tbh, if you've seen pokemon like Torkoal and Noctowl and others, they don't rot. And even though it's not with Ash for Isshu since it's at Oak's (another argument from the other side), Infernape can always come back to Ash's side when Ash needs it and it has Ash's friends, family, and pokemon that it can be accompanied with (I think Meowth said in the Zangoose episode that Infernape was lucky to have Ash and his friends around). So it shouldn't be a problem if it was Oak'd rather than go back to Paul.

And then there's other technical stuff that I won't go into now.
 
Infernape return to Paul? Reggie said in Pedal to the Mettle that Infernape was not compatible with Paul's training style.
 
Hell no. Paul abused that thing. Do you think Infernape WANTS to go back? And would Paul take it? This is the pokemon that cost him the league. And Ash is too attached to Infernape anyways. Sure, he'll get oaked for an entire arc, but still...
 
Konoko Hasano said:
Eh, I think many of the people who want Infernape to go back to Paul are the ones who are biased against it and annoyed at it for 'stealing the show' or something.
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I love Infernape. Favourite Sinnoh pokemon alongside Gible as far as I'm concerned. And yet, I wouldn't be opposed to see it go back to Paul. Why you ask? Because of why I like Infernape in the first place. Infernape was great because of the fact he used to belong to Paul, he was endearing because of what happened with Paul, you wanted him to get stronger so it could prove to Paul that he's strong.

See without Paul and the Ash/Paul rivalry, Infernape's bland. Everyone of the major events in Infernape's developpement (both evolution, first blaze crisis, first sign of a resolution of the blaze problem, etc.) had Paul there to witness it and had Chimchar/Monferno/Infernape trying more, fighting harder to prove himself to Paul. Paul is the driving force behind Infernape's developpement.

That's why I think Infernape might choose to go back to Paul. Plus as far as the show goes, it would give Infernape closure.
 
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