Should Samurott learn Shell Smash?

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Me, I'm hoping it does...
If I remember right, it has the same base speed stat as Cloyster & a bit better offensive stats... with a single Shell Smash, it'd TRULY be the Formidable Pokemon.

I don't see why not since it's main weapon is a blade-like shell...
It may not make sense that it would smash it's weapon, but it doesn't make sense for the other pokemons that can learn Shell Smash to destroy what protects their VERY fragile bodies...

What do you guys & gals think?

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I've just read something about this in the thead "Serperior deserves better stats?"...
Yeah, this is pretty much wishful thinking, but I'm still going to hope for the best...
If it doesn't happens, oh well, there are other water-types that performs well, like Cloyster itself, Gyarados, Etc.
 
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While I honestly wouldn't be against Samurott learning Shell Smash, we do have to remember that said move is very powerful, perhaps nearing on broken. The thing that's keeping it in check is it's poor distribution and I'd be hesitant to distribute it to anything and everything with a shell.

That said, I'd love it if Blastoise and Torterra got it too, though I'm not holding my breath for it and won't be upset if they don't.
 
I think it should have Shell Smash - it hasn't got a lot else going for it, and Shell Smash would help it a lot. It still has shells on its legs that could conceivably be smashed to gain a speed/attack advantage.
 
Oshawott, Dewott, and Samurott should learn Shell Smash. Samurott have somewhat low stats as oppose from other starters, so they should at least learn Shell Smash. I hope Game Freak updated the Oshawott line's level-up moves in Gray and include Shell Smash there, I'm sure it will make the said thee more stronger.
 
Samurott's stat distribution is quite favourable for abusing Shell Smash, with good offences on both sides, decent enough speed at +2 and nice bulk that lets it shrug off priority attacks, especially if White Herb is used.
Anything that helps my favourite water-type starter of all time do better in battle gets my support without question.
 
Ampiomodio said:
I'm pretty sure you need to have a Full Body Shell to use Shell Smash. Imagine Samurott with a full body shell.
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And this is exactly (about samurott)what i said on a serperior thread. Most people want it to get shell smash so it becomes better in battling, but then we can also start wishing for ridiculous stuff like pure power slaking.
 
i don't think its previous evolutions should learn it imo. It should be a samurott only move because it just seems like the most sense. They can make it a 'start' move like megahorn (or make it learn megahorn if it evolves into samurott on time that would be great, or vice versa even!). Because of its bulk it can really do great with this move and who knows maybe become the second starter to find its way into ubers like blaziken. Also off topic but a cloyster pulling off shell smash.. i REALLY wanna see this in the anime, it would look soooo weird. Cloyster is a gastly head in a shell lol.
 
AshK said:
i don't think its previous evolutions should learn it imo. It should be a samurott only move because it just seems like the most sense. They can make it a 'start' move like megahorn (or make it learn megahorn if it evolves into samurott on time that would be great, or vice versa even!). Because of its bulk it can really do great with this move and who knows maybe become the second starter to find its way into ubers like blaziken. Also off topic but a cloyster pulling off shell smash.. i REALLY wanna see this in the anime, it would look soooo weird. Cloyster is a gastly head in a shell lol.
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I doubt Shell Smash would be enough to propel Samurott from NU all the way to Ubers. I can see him working out in OU, but I don't think he'd be broken enough to get to Ubers. Frankly, he doesn't have the stats for it.
 
I'm gonna say no. The shells that Samurott actually has are swords used for offence. Them breaking to increase offence wouldn't make sense in my opinion. It works for Cloyster and co because their shells are their defence.
 
Samurott learning the ridiculous infamous killer support move "Shell Smash"?
*Looks at typing, stats, and move pool... Gives the thumbs up*
Alright I'm okay with this idea. Samurott needs something and you know what... let it be "Shell Smash".
(Gorebyss is still the Queen of "Shell Smash".)
 
Ghetsis-Dennis said:
Ampiomodio said:
I'm pretty sure you need to have a Full Body Shell to use Shell Smash. Imagine Samurott with a full body shell.
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Huntail and Gorbyss were still able to keep Shell Smash despite evolving from Clamperl.
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Neither of them have shells. I'm pretty sure it's one of those things that GF didn't think through clearly, like Togekiss learning Drain Punch even though it has no hands.
 
Yes it should. Its not like it would be broken with Shell Smash so why not? Its stats are perfect for using Shell Smash as well.

Just what he needs to not be a generic water type.

CommandurrClowncrete said:
And this is exactly (about samurott)what i said on a serperior thread. Most people want it to get shell smash so it becomes better in battling, but then we can also start wishing for ridiculous stuff like pure power slaking.
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Thats a ridiculous comparison. This is nothing like that. Its honestly no different than wanting Flygon to learn Dragon Dance or Flareon Flare Blitz. Just a reasonable change to make Pokemon better that makes sense.

Theres nothing wrong with wanting that if its logical and wouldn't even hurt the metagame.
 
I hardly call the bowels of NU "in check". Samurott doesn't have much going for it at the moment. Great offensive stats, nice STAB moves on both sides, sure, but that's about the extent of it. It has iffy speed and no means of boosting it. It should, IMO, at least learn Agility. Lack of Earthquake and Fighting moves also hurts. I mean, why doesn't it get something like Brick Break at least?

So yeah, Samurott really should get Shell Smash. It needs all the help it can get.
 
El_ said:
CommandurrClowncrete said:
And this is exactly (about samurott)what i said on a serperior thread. Most people want it to get shell smash so it becomes better in battling, but then we can also start wishing for ridiculous stuff like pure power slaking.
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Thats a ridiculous comparison. This is nothing like that. Its honestly no different than wanting Flygon to learn Dragon Dance or Flareon Flare Blitz. Just a reasonable change to make Pokemon better that makes sense.

Theres nothing wrong with wanting that if its logical and wouldn't even hurt the metagame.
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Shell smash is learned by mons who have their entire body covered with shells or had their body covered with shell.

So, no samurott doesn't learn it. And you can't call that logical. Giving pure power to slaking is also logical, by using the logic you are giving me.
 
As I've mentioned, Samurott has shells on his four legs (that aren't his swords) that could be smashed to conceivably gain speed/the attack gains while sacrificing his defenses. Although I am aware that it is mostly fully-shelled Pokemon that get the move.
 
@Ghetis-Dennis
That's because the evolutuonary line had a full body shell at one point.
Oshawott. No full body shell. Break the shell. Not a lot of weight lost. No speed would be gained.
Carracosta. Huge, hulking shell. Break the shell. Maybe two thirds of it's overall weight would be lost. Huge speed gain, but also a good portion of it's defence gone.

@El_
Actually, it is quite different.
Flygon would reasonabley learn Dragon Dance, due to it being able to dance and being a dragon.
Flareon would be able to get a Flare Blitz running with ease.
Samurott, however, does not have the physical proportions to use Shell Smash. As I said, No Shell to Break.
 
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