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Should there be a Gen V?

Should there be a Gen V

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IMO No. There are 493 Pokemon now and that's more than enough to make new games with. What is your opinion about it?
 
The main purpose of sequels is new Pokemon. Making a sequel with a few new moves again and again would kill off the series very, very quickly.

Now be honest, let's say an advertisement for Pokemon Sun and Moon came out and the only new features it had were new towns, gyms, 100 new moves, and now Pokemon with notched ears.

Would you really, really, expect it to do as well as the previous Pokemon games? I mean HONESTLY? That strikes me as if you made another Mario Wii game by taking Mario Galaxy, introduced a single new powerup, and touted it as Mario Galaxy 2.

493 just plain isn't enough. Sure, it sounds like a lot, but stop and think. 90% of those Pokemon are NOT individual monsters, but part of evolutionary chains. Sure, the stats are different, and it looks different, but I really do NOT count Charmeleon as being a whole different beast from a Charizard. As far as I'm concerned, there are actually only about 70 different Pokemon, unless you want to argue that a puppy is a different creature from a dog. And hell, we haven't even seen all possible type combinations yet.

Personally, I don't even think they could CONSIDER stopping until they hit 1001. And even then, we'd probably only have about 150 Pokemon if you discount pre-evolutions, babies, and Legendary Pokemon.
 
i belive you just covered that whole thing thank you i agree completly
 
Thanks, I just wanted to add, even among those 70 Pokemon, there are quite a few duds. I mean, do Unown and Luvdisc have any fans? I mean SERIOUS fans who list those two as their favorite Pokemon? I'm skeptical.
 
LOL at the ad above. Anyway zeta took this thread and owned it quite completely. Also looking at some designs such as skymin and the rotom formes the design quality will bump up quite a bit and be very interesting. And we also have more gender difference coming hopefully and possibly region differences(like you have the area data kanto and in the 5th gen games it would be different. LIke the pokemons main origin region would be the one we know but from other regions it would be different.)What i had in the parantheses is what could come to pokemon next and if it does then the series will gain popularity faster. So yeah i say bring on about another 5-6 gens. I mean look at yugioh. 15 years on they have over 1000+ different cards. Pokemon on the other hand would go over 30 years with about 800+ pokemon. That there is the dedication of a company and i dont know what else would be.
 
I think there should be, and your right, most pokemon are evolution chains, why not have all round pokemon that don't evolve at all? Why must everything minus legendaries end up evolving or having pre evolutions?

I think people don't want more pokemon cause in the games it would take a lot longer to catch them all, sure that may be true, but they could come up with a new way around this.

Now I would complain if Gen V did happen and intoduced a lot of new legendaries.
 
I really don't think there should be a Generation V. Certainly not new Pokemon, there are definitely enough already.

What I think they should do is cough out a couple of remakes, Gen II is begging for one, I think we can all agree. You could even justify a Gen III remake, even though that's a bit of a way off yet.

After that, I think they should bring out some sort of final version or double version, maybe where you can travel between all 4 current regions (although that might be a bit crazy) add in an extra 7 cool Pokemon to bring it up to a round 500 and leave it at that.

And as for the fact that we haven't seen all the possible type combinations yet, I find that comment ridiculous. I for one don't want to see all possible type combinations, there comes a point when there are too many. Things like Fighting/Psychic and Water/Grass are a little bit silly already, what next - Fire/Water? It'd be cool, I suppose, but it'd be a bit much, I think. We'd be starting to move into an abundance of gimmick Pokemon and I for one don't want that.

I swear the day I see fused Pokemon, a Bug type eeveelution or a four stage evolution line, the Pokemon franchise will be dead.

Also, as for introducing a sequel with very few changes killing off the series, I think too many new Pokemon introduced would do just the same thing. We've all seen our favourite games become bastardised with an unnecessary number of sequels as they sadly, but surely become nothing more than a soulless cash cow. I don't think has happened to Pokemon yet and I hope it never will, but I'm afraid that if Generation V Pokemon are introduced it seems likely that it will.
 
^btw, your forgetting that if there is a Gen V as is likley, it won't be just games ya know, be anime too as they go hand-in-hand more or less. And didn't they have ideas for more than 500 pokemon already? The reason I thought that was because of shellos was meant to be in Gen III, not IV, but was held back.
 
Shinx3000 said:
^btw, your forgetting that if there is a Gen V as is likley, it won't be just games ya know, be anime too as they go hand-in-hand more or less. And didn't they have ideas for more than 500 pokemon already? The reason I thought that was because of shellos was meant to be in Gen III, not IV, but was held back.
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You know, I remember hearing about that, but I can't figure out where exactly I read it. Is it on bulbapedia somewhere?

I think that there should definitely be a Gen V. I've never quite thought about it the way Zeta put it, but yes, what he said. It's like he opened an entirely new way of thinking about pokémon. :eek:
 
I don't know whether you mean 500 including current ones or 500 additional ones. I sincerely hope it is 500 including current ones, because if more than 500 didn't make the grade for Gen IV when another 7 would have nicely done and made it an even 500, that is a very sad thing again.

What poor examples of Pokemon creativity must they have been to get cut? I'm not trying to say Gen IV was bad - it certainly kicked Gen III's arse. (I am saying Gen III was a bit crap) But what I'm saying is, some really bad Pokemon did make the grade. Lickilicky? BIDOOF?

The knowledge that there were worse Pokemon ideas than Bidoof thought up by Nintendo themselves scares and appalls me. If the fact that they have thought of some Pokemon which are inferior to Bidoof is not reason enough to swear off a Generation V forever, nothing ever can be.
 
I mean, that's true. I think probably the best thing for the franchise after Gen V would be a hard reboot of some kind, or creating some parallel series of games that emulates the spirit of the original Game Boy games but provides something more compelling to people who are no longer wowed by the 1998-era gameplay system. Kanto and Johto, especially, had a ton of depth, that I think got left out of Hoenn (although Sinnoh isn't bad...), and you could use that to build something really great for whatever console comes after the Wii.
 
I think the best thing for the series would be if Nintendo were to create an MMO for the Wii based on the franchise, honestly. All you'd really need to do is take the last four games and the Mystery Dungeon series and synthesize them into one title and put it online with 3D graphics. Then people would stop bitching about playing in Johto or Kanto because they could just sign in and run around Cerulean City and content from newer generation games could be added as it went along.

Kanto and Johto, especially, had a ton of depth, that I think got left out of Hoenn (although Sinnoh isn't bad...),
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Really? That sounds like Nostalgia talking, because GSC turned me off Pokemon for years because it felt like all they did was take two very shallow regions and stick them together to make up for their crappiness. Kanto, in the original was pretty interesting. But Johto was the definition of disappointment. It was just like a retread of Kanto with everything interesting sucked out of it.
 
I believe in order to have a new 5th Generation of Pokemon, we need to have those Pokemon that were said to be unobtainable in the games like all of Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus (Darkrai is) but Shaymin and Arceus aren't. Darkrai is available and has been ever since some certain time that I don't recall, when was it? But the only reason why I selected "No" was because there's still no way to obtain Shaymin and Arceus within the 4th Generation because they're still a hacks and they're non-legit. They require some Action Replay to obtain and 5th Generation is just waiting on their legit appearance. No one knows when that is going to be. It might be another year until those 2 Pokemon become legit and I've seen so many topics like this on the serebiiforums saying that there'll probably be no 5th generation.
 
but keep in mind theres 100 or so new pokemon every 4 years scince the games counting sequels started

Pokemon RB 1996-1999
Pokemon Yellow 1999-2000
Pokemon SG 1999-2000 (New pokemon)
Pokemon Crystal 2000-2002
Pokemon RS 2002-2005 (New pokemon)
Pokemon Emerald 2005-2007
Pokemon DP 2007-2009 (New pokemon)
Pokemon Platinum 2009-????

Get it and thats not alot of years so we still got a good 20 years of this hopefully, and keep in mind remakes will bring back fun experiences and memories the pokemon company will gain millions, i dont think they'll pass that up... do you?
 
I really liked Johto--it was sprawling, and a bit disorganized, but I felt like the whole world had a whole lot to explore. There was a fairly strong organized mythology with Lugia and Ho-oh in tandem with the legendary trio. Granted, the Team Rocket storyline was fairly weak...I thought generally the games had a bit more polish than Gen I, especially Crystal. A lot of the features, while in hindsight kinda sucky, seemed very cool at the time (the phone!? the radio!? awesome stuff!)

Some of the sentiments in this thread are pretty valid, but as I said, I think a reboot is more likely than an end, although I don't see an immediate reboot coming.
 
How many of these threads do we need?

Pokemon is still popular and makes money for its creators, so therefore, games will continue to be made. There are still only a handful of pokemon that are generally used for competitive play, so fans will continue to welcome new generations.
 
I don't really think they should reboot anything other than the battle system, which I would not particularly mind being redone from the ground up in one or two more generations. I'm getting a bit sick of the grid-style map system, too, and I think it could benefit more from an Animal Crossing style full-range of movement deal.

But by reboot, do you mean erasing everything the series has done since Generation I or what?

Pokemon is still popular and makes money for its creators, so therefore, games will continue to be made. There are still only a handful of pokemon that are generally used for competitive play, so fans will continue to welcome new generations.
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That's pretty much my sentiment. Until something comes along that makes a team of Pichu, Wartortle, and Farfetch'd a stellar lineup for battles, I welcome new Pokemon. I almost wish the Pokedex was organized to count an evolution family as one Pokemon than individuals, in the same way that a caterpillar is the same creature as a butterfly.

Personally, I'm getting sick of all these people obsessed with nostalgia whining about how they should have stopped at Generation I, because they were 13 when they came out and you want to freeze the world at that time because you remember everything that happened around that age as the Golden Age of the Perfect World.

Personally, the reason I'm so in love with Pokemon is because it's the only videogame franchise that stacks and grows. Every other series throws out all the old content, characters, and designs with a new sequel, so the world never feels complete or fully realized. You can't go back and run Wario on a Yoshi in the first level of Super Mario Bros 1. But you can train Turtwig, Snorlax, and Mudkip all on your team in Pokemon.

Even other monster games don't do that. Digimon and Monster Rancher dumped fan favorites all the time in sequels, meaning you could never have a complete collection of Digimon or monsters, which bugged the hell out of me and made the settings really inconsistent.

"My favorite breed of Monster Rancher monster is Worm."
"Too bad, we nipped it from the sequel and it will never appear again."

"My favorite Digimon is Terriermon."
"He's not in this game, go away."

See? I don't want that happening to Pokemon. And the fact that it hasn't happened yet is what's kept me so loyal to this franchise.
 
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