Team YOU call us UU!

[TPJerematic]

This is a team i've been trying out on Smogon's Shoddy Server in OU battles.

It's been doing well, could use some advice though

so RMT please

Venusaur (The Garden)
Overgrow
Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 Spe
@ Leftovers
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Energy Ball
Sludge Bomb / Toxic

The Lead

Venusaur is a surprising Lead poke. Base 80 Speed isn't the greatest but does go some distance.
Lead with sleep Powder unless facing a taunter in which case I switich to Regirock.

It can switch in to non-SE Special Attacks with ease and fire either a Leech Seed or threaten sleep.

I'm debating replacing Sludge Bomb with Toxic as SB is only for hitting Grass Pokemon which are not common in OU.
Only Celebi and Breloom appear in OU; Celebi has STAB SE Psychic and Breloom loves poison due to Poison Heal
Toxic would serve as a more useful support move

Regirock (ROCK Roark)
Clear Body
Careful
EV's: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 Spe
Leftovers
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Explosion

The Lead Part 2 with some OOOMPH.

Regirock cleans up some of Venusaur's weaknesses, while setting up Stealth Rock.
He also deals with Physical threats with that mamoth 200 Base Defence. He also acts as bait for bulky waters for a return to Venusaur.
Rock and Ground give good attacking coverage while explosion allows for a dramatic exit stratergy and allowing for a free switch in.

Registeel (ManOfSTEEL)
Clear Body
Impish
EV's: 252 HP / 168 Atk / 88 Def
Expert Belt
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Toxic / Thunder Punch
Explosion

The Mixed Wall

This Regi can come in on one of it's numerous resists, Physical or Special, and annoy.

Salamence locked into outrage ... Registeel + Expert Belt Quad-SE Ice Punch = Win
Expert Belt over leftovers for power of SE moves. Registeel is by no means a sweeper so the extra power granted to an SE move is nice.

I have a Toxic choice here too. I am leaning towards it due to access to electric attacks on Porygon2.

Registeel's main job though is to come in on a Stat upping sweeper or Special wall (I'm looking at you Blissey) ... and blow them up. Annoying the hell out of them.

Mismagius (WitchesBru)
Levitate
Modest
EV's: 6HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Choice Specs
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Fighting
Trick

The Sneaky Special Sweeper

I adore this thing. With 3 Fighting weak Pokemon on this team, the ability to switch into an attack aimed at them and take no damage is crazy awesome.

The moveset allows for completely unresisted hits with Ghost and Fighting. Electric adds insult to SE injury.

Trick is a nice little move to deal with Walls. I have beaten many a CM Rest Suicune and Blissey just by tricking a Choice Item in return for yummy Leftovers.
Tricking for a Choice Band can both 1. Render their Physical attacker less powerful, which helps considering that Mismagius draws Physical attackers due to it being the lower defence. and 2. allow me to Trick them onto something else that doesn't want them later.

Porygon2 (Upgraded)
Trace
Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpA
Leftovers
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Recover
Thunder Wave

The Special attacking Physical Tank

Porygon-Z can Upgrade THIS *Grabs Crotch*. Porygon2 is the only other Pokemon with Trace. Gardevoir's are for loving not battling.

Trace is awesome ... Heatran's Flash Fire, Electivire's Motor Drive, Salamence's and Gyarados' Intimidates, ALL reflected back at them.

It's main job is to Paralyse annoying pokemon that are sweeping my team.

Using Discharge with Thunder Wave may seem pointless BUT after paralysing there is a good chance of a switch so the 30% Chance for another Paralysis is too good to give up.
Ice Beam give BoltBeam Combo ... Which is never a bad thing. Electivire can't switch in a freely as it would like to think it can.

Suffers from being a Jack-of-all-trades at times, but that comes with the defensive coverage.

Arcanine (Blaze)
Flash Fire
Mild
EV's: 152 Atk / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Life Orb
Flare Blitz
Fire Blast / Flame Thrower
Hidden Power Ground / Extreme Speed
Dragon Pulse / Extreme Speed


The Mixed Self Harming Attacker V2

This is an obvious psudo-copy of Altaria.
Flare Blitz and Fire Blast replace Draco Meteor and Outrage for Physical and Special STAB.
Dragon Pulse gives Dragon hits for clearing a Dragon typed counter.

Hidden Power ground makes for a Brilliant Heatran counter. Switch in on a Heatran's Fire type attack, steal a boost and wallop with Quad SE Hidden Power Ground.

Extreme Speed SHOULD have a slot on this moveset ... only i can't figure out where.

 

[Mijzelffan]

All the things you said about prygon2, were true I use him too and he's awesome. Only discharge is extremely useless if you also have thunder wave, use t-bolt (the extra power can save you sometimes). Also I like to use hp-ground myself as a fourth slot move, in case of heatran and magnezone, but if you choose not to, defitely use toxic on it. it can save his life against subseeders and the like (if everyone else is dead).

About venusaur, sludge bomb also helps against grass-resistant pokémon, and you forgot to mention the uncommon sceptile and shaymin but use toxic if you like.

If you decide to take my advice and use toxic on porygon2, then I'd use thunder wave on registeel.

And you sure you want to use fire blast on Altaria? The accuracy of it has failed me many times already. Anyway, use Earthquake instead of hp ground.

I hope I helped

 

[TPJerematic]

All the things you said about prygon2, were true I use him too and he's awesome. Only discharge is extremely useless if you also have thunder wave, use t-bolt (the extra power can save you sometimes). Also I like to use hp-ground myself as a fourth slot move, in case of heatran and magnezone, but if you choose not to, defitely use toxic on it. it can save his life against subseeders and the like (if everyone else is dead).

Hmm good point. I like the hax of 30% but 15 less power hurts in a stall battle. I don't really need another HP-Grnd user TBH.

So i'll chance discharge to T-Bolt and keep thunder wave

Spoiler

About venusaur, sludge bomb also helps against grass-resistant pokémon, and you forgot to mention the uncommon sceptile and shaymin but use toxic if you like.

Thing is i've never seen another grass poke not called Breloom or Celebi in OU since i started using this team

If you decide to take my advice and use toxic on porygon2, then I'd use thunder wave on registeel.

no longer relevant

And you sure you want to use fire blast on Altaria? The accuracy of it has failed me many times already. Anyway, use Earthquake instead of hp ground.

Altaria sucks compared to Arcanine

I hope I helped

yeah ya did thanks

 

[ShinyFlareon]

Eh...I HAVE encountered Shaymin AND Sceptile on Shoddy's OU. Anything effective against Grass is quite useful -- especially if the user is resistant to it. So, yeah, I second Sludge Bomb on Venusaur.

Other than that, looks great. I'd put Extremespeed on Arcanine over Dragon Pulse unless Dragons are REALLY giving you problems.

 

[DCM]

Regirock has no place on this team. just setting up SR and exploding does not make him a valuable asset to your team.
it would be much better to see something like claydol in there, which can Rapid Spin away the Spikes and toxic spikes, which he isnt hit by, and has a resistance to SR

 

[Our Wasted Years]

This is a team i've been trying out on Smogon's Shoddy Server in OU battles.

It's been doing well, could use some advice though

so RMT please

Venusaur (The Garden)
Overgrow
Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 6 Spe
@ Leftovers
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Energy Ball
Sludge Bomb / Toxic

The Lead

Venusaur is a surprising Lead poke. Base 80 Speed isn't the greatest but does go some distance.
Lead with sleep Powder unless facing a taunter in which case I switich to Regirock.

It can switch in to non-SE Special Attacks with ease and fire either a Leech Seed or threaten sleep.

I'm debating replacing Sludge Bomb with Toxic as SB is only for hitting Grass Pokemon which are not common in OU.
Only Celebi and Breloom appear in OU; Celebi has STAB SE Psychic and Breloom loves poison due to Poison Heal
Toxic would serve as a more useful support move

Everything he does, Roserade can do and be faster at it. Lead Focus Sash Roserade with HP-Fire can OHKO a Scizor...but yeah I don't see what's the purpose here. Do you just keep trying to set up Leech Seed/Sleep Power/Toxic? Because other then that I don't see a point of a lead with that set.

Regirock (ROCK Roark)
Clear Body
Careful
EV's: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 220 Spe
Leftovers
Stealth Rock
Stone Edge
Earthquake
Explosion

The Lead Part 2 with some OOOMPH.

Regirock cleans up some of Venusaur's weaknesses, while setting up Stealth Rock.
He also deals with Physical threats with that mamoth 200 Base Defence. He also acts as bait for bulky waters for a return to Venusaur.
Rock and Ground give good attacking coverage while explosion allows for a dramatic exit stratergy and allowing for a free switch in.

So that's pretty standard for something like Regirock.

Registeel (ManOfSTEEL)
Clear Body
Impish
EV's: 252 HP / 168 Atk / 88 Def
Expert Belt
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Toxic / Thunder Punch
Explosion

The Mixed Wall

This Regi can come in on one of it's numerous resists, Physical or Special, and annoy.

Salamence locked into outrage ... Registeel + Expert Belt Quad-SE Ice Punch = Win
Expert Belt over leftovers for power of SE moves. Registeel is by no means a sweeper so the extra power granted to an SE move is nice.

I have a Toxic choice here too. I am leaning towards it due to access to electric attacks on Porygon2.

Registeel's main job though is to come in on a Stat upping sweeper or Special wall (I'm looking at you Blissey) ... and blow them up. Annoying the hell out of them.

I would slap Curse on it instead of Toxic/T-Punch. Also if that's your Salamence counter I would start looking at some other wall. There are a crap load of MixMence's running around in todays metagame. They all pretty much carry EQ, or Fire Blast, or Brick Break and coming from a MixMence it hurts like hell. So I guess you can switch into Outrage but you'll take 2 hits of Outrage, which you could survive I guess if there is no SR and he doesn't get a Crit.

Mismagius (WitchesBru)
Levitate
Modest
EV's: 6HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Choice Specs
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Hidden Power Fighting
Trick

The Sneaky Special Sweeper

I adore this thing. With 3 Fighting weak Pokemon on this team, the ability to switch into an attack aimed at them and take no damage is crazy awesome.

The moveset allows for completely unresisted hits with Ghost and Fighting. Electric adds insult to SE injury.

Trick is a nice little move to deal with Walls. I have beaten many a CM Rest Suicune and Blissey just by tricking a Choice Item in return for yummy Leftovers.
Tricking for a Choice Band can both 1. Render their Physical attacker less powerful, which helps considering that Mismagius draws Physical attackers due to it being the lower defence. and 2. allow me to Trick them onto something else that doesn't want them later.

Good set, but just letting you know sometimes Machamps carry Payback just because of this and Lucario's carry Crunch. Not all but some, so you better have an exit strategy.

Porygon2 (Upgraded)
Trace
Bold
EV's: 252 HP / 216 Def / 40 SpA
Leftovers
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Recover
Thunder Wave

The Special attacking Physical Tank

Porygon-Z can Upgrade THIS *Grabs Crotch*. Porygon2 is the only other Pokemon with Trace. Gardevoir's are for loving not battling.

Trace is awesome ... Heatran's Flash Fire, Electivire's Motor Drive, Salamence's and Gyarados' Intimidates, ALL reflected back at them.

It's main job is to Paralyse annoying pokemon that are sweeping my team.

Using Discharge with Thunder Wave may seem pointless BUT after paralysing there is a good chance of a switch so the 30% Chance for another Paralysis is too good to give up.
Ice Beam give BoltBeam Combo ... Which is never a bad thing. Electivire can't switch in a freely as it would like to think it can.

Suffers from being a Jack-of-all-trades at times, but that comes with the defensive coverage.

I used this set. Works wonders.


NOW onto the Red-headed Stepchild that causes problems.


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Altaria (Wanda)
Natural Cure
Mild
EV's: 112 Atk / 252 SpA / 146 Spe
Life Orb
Draco Meteor
Outrage
Fire Blast
Hidden Power Ground

The Mixed Self Harming Attacker

I really hate to say this but Altaria sucks. Base 80 Speed kills it ... It's fine on a Venusaur but on Altaria ... it sucks.

This is designed to be like a Mixed Life Orb Salamence ... only UU.

It normally only gets one hit in anyway so Draco Meteor's Special Attack drop is negligble. Outrage gives physical ooomph for Dragon type attacks.
Fire Blast scares Scizor off and Hidden Power Ground does the rest of the Steels and Fires some damage ... normally more than EQ.

But it needs replacing with something equlivent.

With so many Pokes going to UU there should be a better option here, even better then Arcanine. With that Pokemon lacking speed I'd slap a Choice Scarf on it or something.

I mean you could also try this set.
Feraligatar@Life Orb
Adamant
28HP, 252Atk, 228Spe
Aqua Jet
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Ice Punch/EQ

But it's up to you.





Possible Altaria replacement

Arcanine (Blaze)
Flash Fire
Mild
EV's: 152 Atk / 200 SpA / 252 Spe
Life Orb
Flare Blitz
Fire Blast / Flame Thrower
Hidden Power Ground / Extreme Speed
Dragon Pulse / Extreme Speed


The Mixed Self Harming Attacker V2

This is an obvious psudo-copy of Altaria.
Flare Blitz and Fire Blast replace Draco Meteor and Outrage for Physical and Special STAB.
Dragon Pulse gives Dragon hits for clearing a Dragon typed counter.

Hidden Power ground makes for a Brilliant Heatran counter. Switch in on a Heatran's Fire type attack, steal a boost and wallop with Quad SE Hidden Power Ground.

Extreme Speed SHOULD have a slot on this moveset ... only i can't figure out where.

 

[Mijzelffan]

oh I forgot to mention that roserade is also a grass pokémon I've seen in OU quite a few times, but that on a side note. I still think you should switch the toxic and thunder wave of registeel and porygon2. Also I'd use extremespeed over dragon pulse on arcanine, ice hurts most dragon's more anyway (and registeel has ice)

 

[TPJerematic]

Yeah on that note Roserade is back on Smogon's OU list so i can't use it on this team

 

[Our Wasted Years]

Yeah on that note Roserade is back on Smogon's OU list so i can't use it on this team

Damn I forgot about that..

 

[TPJerematic]

Damn I forgot about that..

Yeah Venusaur does the job fine TBH. It's just a case of choosing the switch in carefully.

Yes the main point of the venusaur is to annoy with sleep and seed. Energy ball allows swamperts and quagsires to die quickly and Sludge bomb covers ultra rare grasses without poison sub type.

the seed's help the regis recover some health that they couldn't do on their own.


Registeel w/curse was hard to use as it gives the opponent a free switch. and a good chance to kill it specially ... could be healed with SpD EV's ... and a lot of them ... but then i lose protection against mence or power attacking it.


Mismagius' exit stratergy is .... for the most part ... Venusaur or Arcanine. Venu is ok on phy hits and Arcanine scares with burn threat.

The Altaria is gone so i'll remove it from the post shortly.

so i ask

Dragon Pulse or Extreme Speed on Arcanine?

Dragon Pulse gives better coverage against a Latias wanting to absorb specaial hits or Salamence switching in thinking it can intimidate Arcanine into switching.

BUT Extreme Speed hits Latias harder and has general utility with +1 prioity.

ARGH. i need help on that choice

Regirock has no place on this team. just setting up SR and exploding does not make him a valuable asset to your team.
it would be much better to see something like claydol in there, which can Rapid Spin away the Spikes and toxic spikes, which he isnt hit by, and has a resistance to SR

'cept that 200 def is too good to give up. 80/100/50 is a bit better than 60/105/120 ... physically at least. Regirock can fight back with Stone Edge and EQ. before blowing the hell out of a "counter" Infernapes are fun to explode on with them thinking regi is set up bait.

the other thing is

A weakness to Pursuit is a thorn in Claydol's side.

which is better for regi seeing as i have a pursuit enducing poke in the from of mismagius who lacks physical defence.

i dunno. the smoggy set of claydol seems to promote it as a special wall of physial which i need a bit more. and regirock hits harder.

 

[Mijzelffan]

use extremespeed. You already have ice punch to take care of dragons. So I helped you now, can now someone give my double team some advice? =P