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The Death Penalty

Do you agree with the Death Penalty?

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100% totally and completely against. The state should not have the ability to arbitrarily decide who lives and who dies.
 
TheMissingno. said:
100% totally and completely against. The state should not have the ability to arbitrarily decide who lives and who dies.
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I agree (yet you'll give that to the ordinary person but this isn't the place)

Jabberwocky said:
I disagree. If someone has done a completely heinous crime, like say, that of Jack the Ripper, would you let them live to do it again another day?
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Rotting in jail for the rest of a person's life imo is a much tougher punishment.
 
Yup I'm for it. It's not like its totally random...if you commit an egregious crime that warrants it, so be it. you shouldn't have committed that crime.
 
Jabberwocky said:
I disagree. If someone has done a completely heinous crime, like say, that of Jack the Ripper, would you let them live to do it again another day?
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The point is not whether they deserve to live, the point is that I don't have the right to make that decision, and neither does the state.
 
Yea and there's only so much jail/prison space. Plus tax payers are already paying for many new prisons, which are already filling at an alarming rate.

Not that this is the main reason I believe in it, but it's something to consider.

Look I don't particularly like the idea of killing people under any circumstance, but sometimes this kind of punishment is necessary.
 
Jabberwocky said:
No jail is escapeproof. Those crooks' escape from the "inescapable" Alcatraz taught us that much.
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So? Just because there is a tiny chance of their escape does that mean that their life should be taken? I don't think so, there's a thing called Solitary Confinement I think it's a better solution and is much better punishment than just dying.

Jabberwocky said:
That's what the state is for- to protect its people, and punish them if need be.
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Punishment doesn't mean that there needs to be a death involved!

Legacy said:
Yea and there's only so much jail/prison space. Plus tax payers are already paying for many new prisons, which are already filling at an alarming rate.
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Wonderful, just make prison a much harder thing to do and they will stop filling up, in the UK they've gto TV's and Mobile Phones in the damn Prisons, just make it a terrible place to be and that will not only keep people out but also, save taxpayers money.
 
Against. It's revenge, state-sanctioned revenge.

When you hear the families of the murder victims on the news calling for the death penalty for the murderer, it's never "because the jails are overcrowded" or "because it serves as a deterrent". It's always "I want them to be put down like the dog they are" or something similar.

That's how I decided it was wrong.
 
revolvingscott said:
So? Just because there is a tiny chance of their escape does that mean that their life should be taken? I don't think so, there's a thing called Solitary Confinement I think it's a better solution and is much better punishment than just dying.

Jabber:Sometimes, it's a better option to kill the perp.

Punishment doesn't mean that there needs to be a death involved!

Jabber:Sometimes there does. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a death for a death.

Wonderful, just make prison a much harder thing to do and they will stop filling up, in the UK they've gto TV's and Mobile Phones in the damn Prisons, just make it a terrible place to be and that will not only keep people out but also, save taxpayers money.

Jabber:It's human nature to sin. Just making prisons more brutal won't stomp out crime.
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Jabberwocky said:
Sometimes, it's a better option to kill the perp.
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No, no there is never that time.

Jabberwocky said:
Sometimes there does. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a death for a death.
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi.
But if you're killing someone then what's the difference between you and the murderer?

Jabberwocky said:
It's human nature to sin. Just making prisons more brutal won't stomp out crime.
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No such thing as sin sweetcheeks.


BTW PLEASE, PLEASE TRY TO USE QUOTES, IT'S MUCH EASIER!!!
 
revolvingscott said:
Wonderful, just make prison a much harder thing to do and they will stop filling up, in the UK they've gto TV's and Mobile Phones in the damn Prisons, just make it a terrible place to be and that will not only keep people out but also, save taxpayers money.
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I totally disagree with this.
 
revolvingscott said:
No, no there is never that time.

Jabber:Yes, there is.

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi.
But if you're killing someone then what's the difference between you and the murderer?

Jabber:The DIFFERENCE, is the perp murdered to get satisfaction, for glee. I would kill so that he wouldn't kill again.

No such thing as sin sweetcheeks.

Jabber:Yes, there is. It's synonymous with "crime" or "felony" or "wrongdoing."

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People who are against the death penalty should be forced to pay for the increasing number of prisons then.
 
Legacy said:
I totally disagree with this.
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Care to share with the class why or are you going for the mysterious approach?

Nekusagi said:
Against. It's revenge, state-sanctioned revenge.

When you hear the families of the murder victims on the news calling for the death penalty for the murderer, it's never "because the jails are overcrowded" or "because it serves as a deterrent". It's always "I want them to be put down like the dog they are" or something similar.

That's how I decided it was wrong.
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AGREED!!
 
revolvingscott said:
Care to share with the class why or are you going for the mysterious approach?
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mysterious approach.

i'm going to keep my opinions to a minimum on this forum aside from stating which side I fall on.

this is like the abortion argument, we likely aren't going to change people's mind about the subject...and it will just end up be a flame-war.

i agree with the death penalty if the crime warrants it. i respect people who do not, but it's my belief. period.
 
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