The Greatest Pokemon Movie Ever Made

Which Movie is the Greatest Ever?


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Thus we have finally learned about the plot of the latest movie out this July. As long time fans, we look back at years ago and remember the time when the first movie came out in the fall of 1999…
Heck that was when I got convinced over Pokemon and remained a pokefan since then. For me always, the First Pokemon movie will be the greatest Pokemon movie ever made. This type of thinking was reinforced by the massive success of that movie compared to all the others and the fact that I am biased as a “Generation I’er” to all the remaining movies.

Here is rant on what I think of all the Pokemon Movies after the very first one.
Heck, The Lugia one wasn’t as good as the first but at least it gave us a massive battle of 4 legendaries, the Entei one was OK…but after it they all went downhill. I personally think that tha Celebi movie was the worst Pokemon movie ever made, the Lat@s one was better due to the Venetian setting and Massive Aerodactyl...

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...and giant Kabutops...

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but the Groudon in the 6th one didn’t shoot a single fire attack! Deoxys vs Rayquaza was a return to the awesomeness of the past but it ended awfully with the evil Deoxys going good and making Ash fly along side of it without any reason whatsoever and the final shot of Pikachu squealing in delight was an terrible ending. I don’t know why people were crazy about Lucario. Okay… he is probably the deepest character in all of Pokemon since Mewtwo but c’mon, that movie hardly had any action (though Regice blasting Ash was good) but overall the 8th movie was a real softy one (Ash arguing with Lucario, crying and later going suicidal and Lucario taking the fall instead).
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The Manaphy one was All-About-May and her farewell and a ridiculously short Kyogre cameo (but Ash going Super Saiyan was a far better Generation ending moment than anything in the Lati@s movie)...

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( these images courtesy of pokemopolis)
At the end of Generation III with 9 movies under our belts, I could safely and viciously argue with anyone that Mewtwo Strikes back was the the greatest Pokemon movie ever made…

…or so I thought…

It was February 2008 when a sledgehammer with the words “The Rise of Darkrai” inscribed on its iron head came smashing into my face. I spent a month recovering in a hospital bed after undergoing a 5 hour jaw replacement surgery. When I came to, the only thing I could think of was how FRICKIN AWESOME THAT MOVIE WAS!!!
Did you really that movie?
Damn!
Dialga OWNED Palkia! He owned him in the NEXT dimension, on the streets of Alamos and over the skies of that Spanish city!
DAMN COOL!!!
Darkrai got killed… WIIIIICKKKKEEDDDD!!!
He comes back!
WICKED X10!
But still, the Generation I bias is still lingering on in me.
Reviewing the movie, I felt that it was really just mindlessly spontaneous… because it’s sort of just happened. Ash and the gang just happened-to-be-there-at-the-very-moment-when-for-the-first-time-in-millennia-that-the-legendary-dragons-come-back-into-the-Real World’s-dimension, Ash just has to be there… and the ending was a total rip-off of the second movie, but the ocarina song wasn’t as good as Lugia’s song which single handedly restored the balance of the destroyed islands in that movie. Beautiful…
Here, everything goes back to normal with just a swish of Palkia’s arm. What the Heck!?
Idea for improvement: They should have left the town destroyed after the dragons leave and the citizens should have been seen starting to rebuild and somehow Darkrai should have comeback without the help of Palkia. That would have been more awesome.
Before this one, my Top Three were Mewtwo, Lugia and Lucario. Sure, these early movies were low on graphics but they had awesome entertainment value. After this, Darkrai is now my number three.
Bravo Darkrai and Dragons, Bravo!

So, knowing Mr. Yuyama’s work, I thought all of this was just a one shot experience. The next movie would be a lame one probably starring the screeching so-called legendary mirages teaming up with the uselessly weird Cresselia or something lamer…

Then came that Terror straight from the depths of HELL known as Giratina…

Seeing the pairing of Shaymin and Giratina, I knew this one was done for like the Celebi and Manaphy ones. But MIRACULOUSLY, this movie turned out to be even more awesome than the Darkrai one!
The Darkrai one was a sledgehammer, but this one was a Tomahawk missile!
Mr. Yuyama had something to play with this time noon ever could have predicted to have existed in Gen IV…
The Distortion World.
I mean, we’ve all seen depictions of alternate dimensions, but people, Giratina and the Sky Warrior is a masterpiece in the cinematography that is known as anime! Just watch it Pokefans, this stuff is even better that real live action movies! And I’m also including the non Distortion world backgrounds as well mind you.
Then comes…
Giratina’s Origin form. DAMN!!!!

But a movie is in its characters not its prettiness or cool-lookingness, and it delivered well. Although the random encounter stuff of Shaymin ONLY PICKING ASH’s head to sit on and no other soul in the Poke World is still there… surprisingly, the cutseyness of Shaymin in no way interferes with the awesomeness of the action at all. In short:
Giratina OWNS Dialga BIG TIME!
Giratina is frickin scary and cool in its Origin Forme.
Giratina is watching you ALL the time (he shuts his eyes is you are visible through your toilet’s mirror --- ladies beware!)
Zero is badass! (He frickin blasts Giratina in the face with his jet)
The world mourns Giratina’s pseudo-death.
Regigigas looks awesome both in his chamber and GOING FRICKIN HERCULES against a TITANIC GLACIER. His 5 mins of fame will be etched in memory for eons to come.
Giratina, although giving Ash a ride, doesn’t look too happy about it as Deoxys did back in movie 7.
Zero gets what he deserves from Dawn.
We are reminded that it isn’t over yet. The best part still yet has to come… WHeeeeeeee!!!!!
So in all, this one blasts the 2nd movie to smithereens in my book. The CGI, the action and badassness of this Awesome movie is no match for Lugia at all,
But my Gen I’ness lingers on…

This is the best movie of pokemon we have seen in years but not THE MOVIE! We need that back story stuff, we need that sense of purpose, the need for all of this to occur, and all that dark emo’ stuff, that sense of impending doom, and that little feeling of total helplessness everyone felt when Mewtwo came and showed off his powers.

Thus Giratina and the Sky Warrior gets my #2 position. But can Mewtwo hang on for the nuclear bomb that will be dropped on myself this July 2009?...

Here is another rant on why The First Movie was so good:
“Oh c’mon MasterTrainer, that movie is so OLD!” is what many people say at my opinion. Heck, the otakus hate it for its bad dubbing, the old schoolers prefer something new and with plenty of computer graphics, and the newbies go “Mewtwo who/what?”. In fact, nonfans nowadays don’t really remember that feline humanoid at all if asked about Pokemon.
Mewtwo is awesome and here’s why. Back in 1999 Mewtwo was only in the games and if ever used, he would be undefeatable. It was a treat to see him in action, but the First movie wasn’t just some random encounter thing. Mewtwo had an dark backstory which was even darker in the Japanese version. He showed us a major flaw in the Pokemon training system we cherish so much:- why are Pokemon slaves to humans? Deep stuff that is deep enough to portray the humans as bad guys. Ethical questions like that aren’t really seen in the following movies.
Then came Mewtwo’s power. Spoilers aside, People just think for a minute… how can you really defeat something that can bend your mind to its will by just one look at you? Heck the analysis of Mewtwo’s potential is some scary stuff…
We all nowadays love the characters in the Dragonball z and Naruto franchises but till date I really haven’t seen any one of those characters face something like Mewtwo. Super Saiyans who can destroy a planet in a single rampage haven’t really faced a force that can not only restrict their movements but change their mind. BTW Psychic always owns fighting.
And what about the ninjas of Naruto? I don’t think they could fare any better than the saiyans, as Mewtwo could easily stop them in midair, listen to there thoughts if they are in hiding or even worse i.e. erase every bit of memory they have about any kind of justsu. Naruto could simply forget that the Rasengan even exists if he faces off against Mewtwo. I hope peoples jaws have dropped wide open at the realization that such a powerful being exists in Pokemon! So whenever Mewtwo says “I am the world’s most powerful Pokemon” …he really means it!

Then this movie showcases the fact that people can die in a kid’s film like Pokemon!Not only does Mewtwo kill off a lab full of scientists but nearly KILLS ASH HIMSELF. Ash haters who didn’t know this rejoice!

Some may even say that Mewtwo’s powers are boring, “all he does is move things around.” Yeah right, let’s say if we get him to move something else besides an unremembered Generation I Pokemon, like something more of today…hmmm… Let’s put John Cena of the WWE in the ring with Mewtwo and then lets see if his powers are boring.

The ending is the complaints box for everyone nowadays. Sheesh don’t you see the beauty of it? Mewtwo finally gets to see the light, the good side of the force, the mistakes of his ways with ASH’s SUICIDE! Mewtwo is then able to end the movie in a way no other movie could. Awesome stuff.

However, now in 2009, I think my Generation I’ness will finally be surpassed. The new World’d Strongest Pokemon will appear this summer and I think that it will be the Greatest Pokemon Movie ever made. Here’s a rundown of why I think this will be true.
Reasons
1) The world’s strongest Pokemon appears (M2: 1, A: 1)
2) Both of them have awesome backstrories (M2: 2, A: 2)
3) Both of them are seeking revenge (M2: 3,A: 3)
4) There is an awesome battle in the end (M2: 4, A: 4)
5) The fight involves many other powerful legendary Pokemon (M2: 4, A: 5)
Sheesh! We only get a Mew as Mewtwo’s opponent, in the Arceus Movie we get the entire dragon trio and a Heatran to boot!

ARCEUS BEATS MEWTWO (Strike 1)​

6) Ash/ some other HUMAN nearly or really does die. (M2: 5, A: 5 +x) We still aren’t really sure if anything like that will happen in the Arceus movie…we probably only know on July 18th.

7) Part of a trilogy (M2 :6, A: 6 +x). The Sinnoh movies are all part of a trilogy and the Arceus one is the MEGA FINALE of the three. However Mewtwo’s movie is part of a Tri-series that includes his prequel “The birth of Mewtwo” and the sequel “Mewtwo Returns” – classic stuff!

8) There are giant explosions. (M2: 6, A 7+x) Yeah, we’ve all seen the trailer and the massive nuclear blast the the Dragon trio unleash upon the unsuspecting Arceus (YeeHAA!). However, all Mewtwo gives us is the collision between his Barrier ball and that of Mew.

ARCEUS BEATS MEWTWO (STRIKE 2)​

9) Computer Graphics Animation. (M2 :6, A: 8+x) Sadly, the 1st movie is a victim of its own age… despite the efforts of 4kids to add cool CGI effects to the stadium doors and storm clouds…The Arceus movie still beats the crud out of the first is this arena.

ARCEUS BEATS MEWTWO (STRIKE 3)​

10) A brand new technique is introduced to the franchise (M2: 7, A: 9+x). Little do people remember that the 1st movie introduced the science of cloning to Pokemon. Yes it was an awesome feature of the first movie that culminated in the most memorable battles amongst the fully evolved starters of the trainers and their Super clones…
for the youngsters, the effect of that would be like having Cynthia of the Elite 4 send out her Garchomp only to have it OWNED big time by let’s say another ‘shiny’ Garchomp. Imagine the faces everyone will have if that happens right now! And that happened back in 1999! In short Mewtwo was a genius and powerhouse.
I’ll ignore the cheap try of the Lucario movie to introduce the concept of AURA because I say SCIENCE FICTION BEATS FANTASY STUFF ANY DAY! Aura is nothing compared to the fact that Pokemon trainers can now instead of just going to new locations in some region (etc.) can actually meet beings from and travel to MULTIVERSE DIMENSIONS and back! Alternate Dimensions in Pokemon! COOOL!!! And the Arceus movie will improve on that!

10) Fate of the world is at stake. (M2: 8, A: 9+x) Yeah, this might look like a cheap way to up Mewtwo’s points but when the world’s strongest Pokemon says it will take over the world and kill all the humans and has the ablilty to do anything with his mind and with cloning technology, then...
The World IS REALLY GONNA GET SCREWED!​
Arceus as well will pass Judgment on this planet as well!

11) Both Mewtwo and Arceus gain in this category:
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It’s OVER NIIIINE THOUSAAAAANNNDDD!!!​
M2: 9, A: 10+x) What would this single greatest Pokemon movie be like without the opinion of the (*second*) most powerful being in the universe? Well Vegeta of Dragonball Z can put his scouter on for both Arceus and Mewtwo and stand amazed and angered enough to say that legendary phrase once more…

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Naruto (in reply): “Vegeta…Believe it!”​


So I think we all should voice our opinions about which Pokemon movie was the greatest of them all.

Do read my rants, and give your opinions. But please don’t quote the massive amounts of text I’ve put up, you’ll really be wasting space. Just quote the few lines you are interested in.
 
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“Oh c’mon MasterTrainer, that movie is so OLD!” is what many people say at my opinion. Heck, the otakus hate it for its bad dubbing, the old schoolers prefer something new and with plenty of computer graphics, and the newbies go “Mewtwo who/what?”. In fact, nonfans nowadays don’t really remember that feline humanoid at all if asked about Pokemon.

Well, I couldn't care less at what otakus might think (bad dubbing? the dubbing was great!), but I think that a majority of the fans still remember Mewtwo. While yes, there is a significant amount of new fans, the amount of Pokéfans was much bigger back then.

I also think we already have a "Favorite Pokémon Movie" here somewhere, not to mention that I fear this is going to be another "new Pokémon sux" conversation. I have to confess that I didn't read most of your "Arceus vs. Mewtwo" comparison.

My vote goes for Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, but whatever... the 12th one isn't even out yet. And it will take forever before it's dubbed.
 
I thought Movie 11 was one of the weakest movies, but to each their own I guess. Regigigas was wasted entirely, there were too many fillers scenes to take up time, and Shaymin was incredibly annoying. It also had by far the worst treatment of Brock and Team Rocket in any movie.

In some trilogies the weakest movie is the one in the middle, so if Movie 12 turns out great it'll help salvage Movie 11.
 
i dont know because i havent seen movie 12 but my favourite movie is the Darkrai one at the moment
i dont like the 11th movie either
 
Well, I couldn't care less at what otakus might think (bad dubbing? the dubbing was great!),

How in the world was the dubbing for the first movie great?

I think the 12th movie is being hyped up waaaaay too much. Some people will undoubtedly be let down and then the movie will be bashed for being wasted potential.
 
How in the world was the dubbing for the first movie great?

I think the 12th movie is being hyped up waaaaay too much. Some people will undoubtedly be let down and then the movie will be bashed for being wasted potential.

Well, when you view the whole picture, nobody really cared if a Scyther was called Alakazam or not. The removal of the "Birth of Mewtwo" prologue was odd, but it certainly didn't ruin it for me. And Mewtwo's voice actor was great, whoever it was.

I have to agree with you about the overhyping, although that seems to occur more amongs fans ("OMG ARCEUS!!!") and I'm not getting my hopes up completely, as it most likely won't be better than the average Pokémon movie. I'm perfectly satisfied if it's just better than the Darkrai or the Giratina movies.
 
How can we determine if Movie 12 is the best already? Granted, the plot is making it out to be pretty sweet, and given I've got a character from it as my avatar I'm really not one to talk, but you're kinda presenting a bad poll here by asking for the "greatest Pokemon movie ever made" and then offering "something before movie 12" and "movie 12" as choices.

Also, TL;DR. A blog entry probably would be a better place for all this.

On topic, however ...Movie 10.
 
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Movie 1 had the most epic storyline to me until the DP trio. And since it was the first and I was so excited when it came to the theaters...I pick that one.

I also love Movie 8 wit Lucario although I wished there was more of an evil villain in that movie.


Mewtwo battling Arceus would be EPIC! The original Pokemon against a superclone made by man to see if nature or science is stronger!!!
 
I can't really choose one based on quality. . .none of them are particularly well-made films and each have plot-holes galore.

If basing my favorite on scope and anticipation it has to be The First Movie. It is still the largest screening I've ever been to, given that I live in a small town in Indiana and saw The First Movie on a sold-out opening night in Indianapolis, so it still holds something special in that regard.
 
I can't really choose one based on quality. . .none of them are particularly well-made films and each have plot-holes galore.

If basing my favorite on scope and anticipation it has to be The First Movie. It is still the largest screening I've ever been to, given that I live in a small town in Indiana and saw The First Movie on a sold-out opening night in Indianapolis, so it still holds something special in that regard.

I agree. Part of what made The First Movie great was how popular Pokemon was at that time. Plus, I was very young when the first movie came out and it was just one of those things as a kid you'll always remember.

At the very beginning of the movie when Ash fights that Pirate Raymond guy, and they play the different version of Pokemon Theme while Bulba, Sqirtle, and Pikachu destroy that dudes Pokes...the greatest song in Pokemon history!
 
I don't really know... I have seen raise of Darkrai nd its my favourite to date, but I have not seen 11 yet and 12 is not released yet.
 
I can't really choose one based on quality. . .none of them are particularly well-made films and each have plot-holes galore.

I agree with you on that, and the Pokémon anime itself isn't known for particularly clever writing or amazing epic storylines, and the movies are overall quite similar. Well, actually, I expected more from the first one, but now that it's obvious that they come out every year, I don't even expect much quality, but I just hope they're good on the "Pokémon scale". And I'm not really looking for great stories anyway when it comes to Pokémon.

I also have no idea why some people consider the movies getting better and better all the time. The animation is improving, but the stories are extremely predictable and are just recycled over and over again. There didn't seem to be anything special in "The Rise of Darkrai".
 
Well, when you view the whole picture, nobody really cared if a Scyther was called Alakazam or not.

4Kids misidentified pokemon a number of time. I can't call a dub great when that happens.

And since I never answered the topic I'll just say that I don't have a favorite movie. I haven't seen them all yet, and of the ones I have seen there really isn't one that stands out as being a favorite. They all have their good and bad points.
 
4Kids misidentified pokemon a number of time. I can't call a dub great when that happens.

Great, but not flawless.

Anyway, I'm not saying anymore of the matter because I might steer this thread way off-topic...

While I did mention liking the Lucario movie best, I liked Pokémon Heroes very much too, because of the Venice-style setting, as well as the whole AshxLatias thing, which I thought was one of the few clever things in the movies.
 
1st one had a lot of action, second had feirce battles along with third, fourth and fifth didn't have much action, sixth was cute because Max made a new friend I think he might be a Psychic pokemon trainer since he befriended a Jirachi, and a Ralts, seventh was great Deoxys vs Rayquaza that's a fight worth seeing, eighth was a little bit good I just don't get why Lucario is considered a legendary pokemon in the anime, ninth was pretty fun to watch because May was sort of like a mom to that little Manaphy, 10th was really really bad in my opinion, 11th was hilarious because Shaymin kept pissing Ash off a LOT!! which was HILARIOUS!!!


I think first was best since the movie started the fight over who was more Powerful Mew or Mewtwo (I think Mew is more powerful)
 
I haven't seen 4, 6, 10 or 11, but judging by the trend of quality of the anime and movies, I'm going to assume 12 will not manage to be better than 1, 3, and 8.
 
I agree. Part of what made The First Movie great was how popular Pokemon was at that time. Plus, I was very young when the first movie came out and it was just one of those things as a kid you'll always remember.

The first movie was also the darkest by far, and it actually allowed you to sympathize with the characters (in this case Mewtwo). It was also the first time that we saw Ash 'die' (coincidence perhaps?).
 
Makes me wonder if Mewtwo could own Giratina. I mean, statistically Mewtwo is the second most powerful pokemon, ever. (Only behind Arceus)

So yeah, makes me wonder if he could take on stuff like Giratina and Palika and Dailga etc. Arceus, no, I mean, that's basically fighting God, if you believe in him, and we're talking about the ominipotent omniscent omnipresent god, not one of those loser Greek gods.

The first movie was epic, the other ones, not so much. I mean, I enjoyed most of them, but the first actually had epic battles. And Ash died, I mean, the dude died. Sure he came back, but he sacraficed himself to save the whole pokemon race.

I haven't seen the newer ones, so I can't comment, but the ones that I have seen, up to Jirachi and Lucario etc, the first is still the best.
 
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