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The next Viridian Gym leader?

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Well, as we know, in GSC, Blue is the leader of the Viridian Gym. Now, after Johto and later after Hoenn, Ash returned to Viridian City, right? And Agatha already mentioned that she was only a temporary Gym Leader.

So, could it be possible that they would make Gary the Viridian Gym Leader? I know it's not as likely anymore, considering that he's more into research now, but I doubt that he abandoned Pokémon training completely. The anime has recently been following the games quite closely, and on top of that, if there's going to be a G/S remake, it would be possible, right?
 
Yeah, the only problem is the anime has taken Gary's character in a completely different direction than what he's like in the games.

Would Gary give up being a researcher just to stay at a Gym? That kind of limits him, he wouldn't be able to travel anymore an discover things about Pokemon.
 
No way it's Gary. But, yeah, I'm rather interested in who it would turn out to be if they ever revealed it as well. Maybe Leaf, but I'd prefer her to be the champion of the Kanto and Johto Elite Four. XP ...oh my Arceus, that needs to become canon now.

It may just be someone that we don't even know of, though. *shrugs*
 
I highly doubt it's Gary, as others have said he is a researcher now and being a trainer is just not his thing. A gym leader seems like it would be a time consuming position.

I don't know who it would be, though. I know this is a super long shot, but remember AJ from season 1 of the anime who had the Sandshrew, and had kind of an unofficial gym set up? Well, if you remember he closed it down to go on a journey after Ash defeated him. I always wondered if he would be a real gym leader one day. But if AJ and his (evolved)Sandslash were at the Viridian Gym, maybe he's caught a bunch of other ground-type pokemon, the type of pokemon used there wouldn't change, either.

Like I said, it's a longshot. xD
 
A long shot, but it makes sense, actually. I was hoping we'd see him when Ash competed in the League. Even just,like in the background, or something. Or Ash could have battled him.
 
Who says that Gary can't be both a researcher and a gym leader? There have been plenty of other gym leaders in the past that did other thngs besides battling challengers.
 
Scott85 said:
Would Gary give up being a researcher just to stay at a Gym? That kind of limits him, he wouldn't be able to travel anymore an discover things about Pokemon.
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Because that sort of responsibility totally kept Fantina rooted in her Gym instead of closing it down without designating a replacement, permanent or otherwise, so she could go do exactly that.

I doubt Gary will anyway. His heart went down Oak's trail. Unless battling becomes top priority in his life again, he's a married man. To science!
 
The A.J. idea is unlikely. A filler character from episode 8 that was never seen again over a 600 episode series and 11 years is going to become a Gym leader? I think some of you are still stuck in the 1998 mode of the show where we have a short series and a small cast. We're in 2009, there are now almost 600 episodes, 1000 filler characters, so nobody is going to know who the hell A.J. is, especially the kids growing up with the show now.

As for Gary the writers barely put him in episodes as is. I'm still trying to figure out why Sinnoh is almost over and Gary has only been in 2 episodes. Its like, why bring the character back if you're not even going to bother putting him in episodes?
 
Scott85 said:
The A.J. idea is unlikely. A filler character from episode 8 that was never seen again over a 600 episode series and 11 years is going to become a Gym leader? I think some of you are still stuck in the 1998 mode of the show where we have a short series and a small cast. We're in 2009, there are now almost 600 episodes, 1000 filler characters, so nobody is going to know who the hell A.J. is, especially the kids growing up with the show now.
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Yeah, just a little thing to point out, they can still theoretically include AJ, especially considering how they gave Brock's mom an appearance after, oh, 5 to 9 years after her first [and at the time, only] mention (depending on whether you count Chronicles or not). As for the rationale on the writers not wanting to do it just because "nobody is going to know who the !#$! A.J. is, especially ones growing up with the show now", most of these same kids don't even know Ash's Butterfree, it's being captured as a Caterpie, the Lt. Surge battle, Jessie's Blissey friend, Ash's original outfit or, heck, even May herself, and did that stop THEM from making cameos and being given references? No, it didn't. If they could go out of their way to include those references, despite the current fandom not having heard of them, whose to say they can't give AJ, or heck, ANY of the old filler characters, minor characters, or Main Characters references.

And, BTW, I prefer being "stuck in 1998" as you put it, as it is at least better than being some kid who forgets everything that happens in the past as soon as new technology comes out, not even remembering what a Newspaper of all things (FYI, it's an "Opus" reference). Either you accept that we stay nostalgic, or don't bother talking to us.

As for Gary the writers barely put him in episodes as is. I'm still trying to figure out why Sinnoh is almost over and Gary has only been in 2 episodes. Its like, why bring the character back if you're not even going to bother putting him in episodes?
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He's at least appeared in two episodes. At least be thankful that he actually appeared in those episodes and had some influence on the plot in one case (eg, his being the reason why Gligar evolved into Gliscor.).

Luna Tiger: To be honest, I was pretty annoyed at that. I mean, considering how the last time a Gym was left unattended for a long time without a substitute, it nearly got shut down. Then again, the same organization, the PIA, didn't even bother to shut down Pewter Gym despite the fact that it failed at least two portions of the test (Unsafe and Uncool, as Lola made the gym hazardous to the Rock/Ground Types, and the paint job was terrible.), and they didn't even shut down the Mauville Gym despite being completely unsafe (We knew the PIA had to have inspected it, as it was supposed to target gyms in Hoenn after doing Cerulean Gym.). I mean, this made even MAKING Cerulean Blues seem even more pointless, as now we have one more continuity hiccup that we have to deal with.
 
LOL @ A.J. randomly re-appearing.

When was the last time a filler character re-appeared from 10 years ago?
 
Scott85 said:
LOL @ A.J. randomly re-appearing.

When was the last time a filler character re-appeared from 10 years ago?
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Well, she technically didn't "appear" as her first "appearance" was nothing more than a mention in the fifth episode, but Lola, despite not having been mentioned OR seen for nine years in the main anime (five if one counts "A family that battles together stays together" as being a Main episode), reappeared approximately 9 years in the main anime after Showdown in Pewter City was aired, which is close enough to 10 years that a character can get.
 
Lola is a NEW character.

This is not the same as A.J. a filler character who most people don't even know.

The writers don't give a shit about old filler characters, hence why none of them re-appeared in BF.
 
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Lola is a NEW character.
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No, she's NOT a New character (She was first mentioned in "Showdown in Pewter City", which had aired 11-12 years ago. In order for her to be a new character, not only has she not been seen before, she also hasn't even been MENTIONED before, either.)

As for your "example" about how the writers didn't care about old filler characters, Kanto as a whole was barely even referenced. You yourself even said that it didn't even seem like they WERE in Kanto, and it was Kanto in name only. Heck, they even got the flashbacks completely wrong.
 
A new character is not a new character but she never appeared before?

How does that make sense?
 
Scott85 said:
A new character is not a new character but she never appeared before?

How does that make sense?
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Look, Brock's Father, Flint, MENTIONED her in the episode where Ash first met Brock. Lola is Brock's MOM, Flint was telling him that both is dad, and mom were deadbeat trainers and irresponsible parents who abandoned their kids, thus having Brock raise them. Since Lola, Brock's mom was MENTIONED in that episode, which aired 9 years prior to "Grating Spaces" (Her first appearance in the Main anime other than in the Chronicles episode "A Family that Battles together Stays together"), and 11-12 years prior to the current DP episode, she is NOT a New character (A New character is... think of it like Dawn, or, May/Max, for instance. When they were introduced, they were labelled as "New" for a reason. It's because they were not only unseen prior to the episode of their debut, they were also not even MENTIONED before [as it takes far more than just not being seen before to be considered a new character, it also needs for them to not even be mentioned in prior episodes.].). Lola, if she can label her as anything, is more of the "unseen but mentioned" kind of character.
 
Weedle Mchairybug said:
To be honest, I was pretty annoyed at that. I mean, considering how the last time a Gym was left unattended for a long time without a substitute, it nearly got shut down. Then again, the same organization, the PIA, didn't even bother to shut down Pewter Gym despite the fact that it failed at least two portions of the test (Unsafe and Uncool, as Lola made the gym hazardous to the Rock/Ground Types, and the paint job was terrible.), and they didn't even shut down the Mauville Gym despite being completely unsafe (We knew the PIA had to have inspected it, as it was supposed to target gyms in Hoenn after doing Cerulean Gym.). I mean, this made even MAKING Cerulean Blues seem even more pointless, as now we have one more continuity hiccup that we have to deal with.
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One can make several arguments against this.

1) Game trumps anime. What happened in the anime barely effects what happens in the game. There is no PIA in-game, so having them come barging into an issue resolved in-game is moot.

2) You don't know Mauville Gym wasn't closed down post Manectric Charge. Hoenn's a big place; they wouldn't have gone in "order".

3) No one cares about the HoSo episodes. Or a throwback to the beginning of Kanto that took four years to reappear into said HoSo episodes.
 
Luna Tiger said:
One can make several arguments against this.

1) Game trumps anime. What happened in the anime barely effects what happens in the game. There is no PIA in-game, so having them come barging into an issue resolved in-game is moot.
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Actually, Fantina wasn't even out of town in-game. She just refused to battle you. The "being out of town on a journey" thing was exclusive to the Anime. In fact, the closest she was to being out of town was her being in the Hearthome Contest Hall, which even then, it's not really that close.

2) You don't know Mauville Gym wasn't closed down post Manectric Charge. Hoenn's a big place; they wouldn't have gone in "order".
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It has been canonically over three months when they first arrived in Mauville City (and when Ash first fought Wattson, anyways, as evidenced by the fact that shortly after the episode, Date with Delcatty aired in Japan, which showed that Misty's sisters had already returned.). Seeing how the PIA inspects Gyms of all regions every year, they were BOUND to have inspected Wattson's gym.

3) No one cares about the HoSo episodes. Or a throwback to the beginning of Kanto that took four years to reappear into said HoSo episodes.
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I don't see how no one cares about that, especially considering how they care enough to even know the name or have an episode discussion on it?
 
Nobody cares. Its obviously a plot device to keep Misty at the Cerulean Gym forever and ever since the writers don't want her back.

I thought that was obvious?
 
What or who are the PIA?
And what episode(s) did they appear in and what have they done?:dizzy:
 
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