The Pokemon World's Creation

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I was thinking, if Mew created life in the Pokemon World, the other "PokeGods" can fit in. Areseus (uh, SP) could've created the sky, atmosphere and objects like that - Dialga created and controls time. Palkia created space. Groudon and Kyogre created land and water respectively, while the Elemental Birds and the GSC Dogs/Cats/WhateverMutantTheyAre control the elements Water, Fire and Thunder.

There are some things that I think the other (not too important storywise) Legendary Pokemon control/created. Giradina created Hatred/Rebellion as it is called the Rebellion Pokemon. Darkrai made and controls death, Sheimi created Happiness/Gratitude, again, since it's the Gratitude Pokemon. Celebi is a confusing Pokemon to classify since Dialga created space and controls it. Celebi's moveset consists of moves like Heal Bell, Safeguard, Recover, Protect and some Grass/Psychic offensive moves. This makes me believe that Celebi controls growth, restoration and healing. Jirachi possible maintains stuff like wishing and luck. My opinion on Deoxys is that it really isn't a legenday, but is a space mutant (for lack of better words). The Regi trio and Regigigas also aren't legendaries, but they are huge, powerful Golems.

If you have any problems/comments/anything, please don't be afraid to reply.
 
Well, I think that Celebi is the Time-Travelling Pokemon, which means it can go back in time and forward, while Dialga created Time itself. So in an essence, Dialga came before Celebi theoretically speaking. :p
 
With DP and its overpowering of legendary pokemon, and the contradictions between Mew-Aruseus, etc. I've adopted the 'they are legends that correspond with their regions' theory. It really is becoming too rediculous otherwise, and I know it's just going to get worse as more generations come out.
 
So, all 4 generations don't relate to each other because each region has its own belief. That sounds pretty right. :p
 
They must have some reason otherwise the people who made pokemon were just trying to make things that are powerful and look cool
 
I think what Orbi was trying to say was that Arseus could have created existence, the material world, and mew could be the origin of life so then there would be no contradiction.

I don't tend to think much about legendaries but I would think that their history would go something like.
Arseus exists
Arseus manifests itself as dialga and palkai creating time and space
Arseus then starts creating the world through Kyogre, Groudon and, Rayquaza.
Order is added to the world with Lugia, Ho-Oh and Regigigas.
Legendary trios are then created to help watch over the regions. Lugia creates birds. Ho-Oh creates Beasts. Regi makes Regis.
Finally Mew comes into existence and from Mew all other pokemon are decended.

I honestly only came up with that theory now tho. I think more about catching legends then explaining them.

*First post I appologize ahead of time for being a newb or if my post is really bad a n00b
 
bellpei said:
I think what Orbi was trying to say was that Arseus could have created existence, the material world, and mew could be the origin of life so then there would be no contradiction.

I don't tend to think much about legendaries but I would think that their history would go something like.
Arseus exists
Arseus manifests itself as dialga and palkai creating time and space
Arseus then starts creating the world through Kyogre, Groudon and, Rayquaza.
Order is added to the world with Lugia, Ho-Oh and Regigigas.
Legendary trios are then created to help watch over the regions. Lugia creates birds. Ho-Oh creates Beasts. Regi makes Regis.
Finally Mew comes into existence and from Mew all other pokemon are decended.

I honestly only came up with that theory now tho. I think more about catching legends then explaining them.

*First post I appologize ahead of time for being a newb or if my post is really bad a n00b
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I agree with this one.... THis guy is a historian of the pokemon world..I'm deffinitly sure....
 
Orbi said:
I was thinking, if Mew created life in the Pokemon World, the other "PokeGods" can fit in. Areseus (uh, SP) could've created the sky, atmosphere and objects like that - Dialga created and controls time. Palkia created space. Groudon and Kyogre created land and water respectively, while the Elemental Birds and the GSC Dogs/Cats/WhateverMutantTheyAre control the elements Water, Fire and Thunder.

There are some things that I think the other (not too important storywise) Legendary Pokemon control/created. Giradina created Hatred/Rebellion as it is called the Rebellion Pokemon. Darkrai made and controls death, Sheimi created Happiness/Gratitude, again, since it's the Gratitude Pokemon. Celebi is a confusing Pokemon to classify since Dialga created space and controls it. Celebi's moveset consists of moves like Heal Bell, Safeguard, Recover, Protect and some Grass/Psychic offensive moves. This makes me believe that Celebi controls growth, restoration and healing. Jirachi possible maintains stuff like wishing and luck. My opinion on Deoxys is that it really isn't a legenday, but is a space mutant (for lack of better words). The Regi trio and Regigigas also aren't legendaries, but they are huge, powerful Golems.

If you have any problems/comments/anything, please don't be afraid to reply.
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Actually Darkurai controls Nightmares.


Arseus Exists

Arseus creates Mew, and what will become the Earth (Beggining with just rocks)

Mew creates Groudon and Kyogre.

Groudon and Kyogre fight, almost destroying planet.

Arseus steps in, creating Rayquaza.

Arseus attempts to create more order, creating Dialga and Palkia

Arseus also creates the Pixie trio to act as a key, to harness Dialgas and Palkias power

Mew creates the Legendary birds and beasts

Birds fight with eachover, Beasts run around creating to much of their respective elements.

Mew creates Ho-oh and Lugia to control the Birds and Beasts.

Humans evolve.

Normal pokemon are created.

"Evil" human feelings, such as Greed, bitterness and anger, manifestate themselves into the pokemon Giradina and Darkurai. Like Pandoras Box.

Mew creates Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy and Sheimi, to preserve the forests, seas and skies. Jirachi is also the "Hope" in Pandoras box. At some point in time, Manaphy creates many Fione to assist it.

Crescelia is used to bring good feelings to the world, created by Mew.

Man creates the Regis during 3 periods of time, as a way of worshiping the Legendary Regigigas.

The regis (formally just statues) come to life, and with their great power, start destroying things.

With the help of Regigigas, Man confines the Regis to sealed chambers.

Man then turns on Regigas (Who is exhausted from the struggle), and seals him away too.


Man creates Mewtwo

A Space virus mutates into Deoxys.
 
SHTR said:
Actually Darkurai controls Nightmares.
Arseus creates Mew, and what will become the Earth (Beggining with just rocks)

Mew creates Groudon and Kyogre.
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I'm replying to your whole post I just didn't want a huge quote thing.

I guess where our theories really diverge is on what pokemon are blessed with the ability to create. I personally don't think Mew would have that kind of power. I formed my theory around the idea that mew's DNA is in every pokemon so Mew probably came last. I thought that this would mean that all the other legends were essentially building the world for Mew's eventual creation. How did Mew reproduce? I tend to think Mew can reproduce asexually and it has varied offspring depending on environment. So Mew can create but it's not Mew's "devine will", I guess.

I'd also like to say that even though I said Lugia, Ho-Oh, and Regigiggas created their trios I'd like to revise it to they asked Arseus to do it; they can't create by "divine will" either. Which came first the thing that controls or those that are controled is an interesting question. It makes sense either way but I'm just not sure

I didn't include many of the legendaries from Diamond and Pearl becauce I don't know much about them. I like the pandora's box idea but I might argue that Celebi is hope rather than Jirachi since Celebi represents a good future.

I've also got no idea where to put humans. Were they created by Arseus? Another Entity? How did humans learn the legends if they weren't around for them. In the bible (which I'm hesitant to mention since it's so controvercial) humans know how the world was created becauce Adam & Eve spoke to god and learned it that way. They then witnessed everything else. I dunno.

I shall also yet again say that I've formed this theory on the spur of the moment and don't claim to be right. I only claim to have a theory.
 
I feel Mew is more likely to have the power to create, wheras Arseus keeps watch. Arseus may have more power than Mew, and steps in in the Rare occasions Mew makes a mistake (Groudon+Kyogre)

I feel this may be the reason that Mew is depicted in the anime, sometimes as cute, bouncy and jolly, yet at other times as a formidable opponant.

Mew shows he has great power, managing to hold back Mewtwo, The "Ultimate" pokemon. Also, there are so many pokemon, and Mew has the DNA of them all. Wouldnt it make more sense that he, yes, reproduces Asexually, and mutates the genes slightly, to create the rest of the pokemon.

Celebi could be Hope, and makes sense, seeing as Jirachi attracts greed, so it may not be Hope. I just liked the idea, due to people wishing for the evils to go, and the wishing gives them hope.
 
Orbi said:
I was thinking, if Mew created life in the Pokemon World, the other "PokeGods" can fit in. Areseus (uh, SP) could've created the sky, atmosphere and objects like that - Dialga created and controls time. Palkia created space. Groudon and Kyogre created land and water respectively, while the Elemental Birds and the GSC Dogs/Cats/WhateverMutantTheyAre control the elements Water, Fire and Thunder.

There are some things that I think the other (not too important storywise) Legendary Pokemon control/created. Giradina created Hatred/Rebellion as it is called the Rebellion Pokemon. Darkrai made and controls death, Sheimi created Happiness/Gratitude, again, since it's the Gratitude Pokemon. Celebi is a confusing Pokemon to classify since Dialga created space and controls it. Celebi's moveset consists of moves like Heal Bell, Safeguard, Recover, Protect and some Grass/Psychic offensive moves. This makes me believe that Celebi controls growth, restoration and healing. Jirachi possible maintains stuff like wishing and luck. My opinion on Deoxys is that it really isn't a legenday, but is a space mutant (for lack of better words). The Regi trio and Regigigas also aren't legendaries, but they are huge, powerful Golems.

If you have any problems/comments/anything, please don't be afraid to reply.
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Try classifying them using the "realms" of powers used to clasify gods in D&D etc... It actually helps make sense out of it all...

For instance:

Mishakal- Realm of Healing - could also be Celebi
 
LucarioManiac said:
Try classifying them using the "realms" of powers used to clasify gods in D&D etc... It actually helps make sense out of it all...

For instance:

Mishakal- Realm of Healing - could also be Celebi
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good lord...
I remember my nights of trying to make sense out of my beginners D&D manual o_0

I get what you're saying though, different realms of influence is kinda what I tried to say in my first post.

in other news, 2 posts from Minnesota in a row.
 
bellpei said:
good lord...
I remember my nights of trying to make sense out of my beginners D&D manual o_0

I get what you're saying though, different realms of influence is kinda what I tried to say in my first post.

in other news, 2 posts from Minnesota in a row.
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lolz XD ... I know what you mean, D&D manuals can get VERY confusing.... I ended up gaining most of my knowlege through the games, Bulders Gate, etc... and ofcourse books, dragonlance, etc.... Oh well, I'll work this week on assigning all the pokemon a different realm of influence using my dragonlance game manual, probably wont work out ALL that well, but hey, it may end up atleast giving everyone a laugh...

Go minnesotans! :lol:
 
Reorder of events....


Arseus Exists

Arseus creates Mew, and what will become the Earth (Beggining with just rocks)

Arseus attempts to create more order, creating Dialga and Palkia

Arseus also creates the Pixie trio to act as a key, to harness Dialgas and Palkias power

(without time and space, G and K have nowhere/no time to fight.)

Mew creates Groudon and Kyogre.

Groudon and Kyogre fight, almost "destroying" planet.

Arseus steps in, creating Rayquaza.

Mew creates the Legendary birds and beasts

Birds fight with each other, Beasts run around creating too much of their respective elements.

Mew creates Ho-oh and Lugia to control the Birds and Beasts.

Humans evolve.

Normal pokemon are created. (through evolution from Mew?)

"Evil" human feelings, such as Greed, bitterness and anger, manifestate themselves into the pokemon Giradina and Darkurai. Like Pandoras Box.

Mew creates Celebi, Jirachi, Manaphy and Sheimi, to preserve the forests, seas and skies. Jirachi is also the "Hope" in Pandoras box. At some point in time, Manaphy creates many Fione to assist it.

Crescelia is used to bring good feelings to the world, created by Mew.

Man creates the Regis during 3 periods of time, as a way of worshiping the Legendary Regigigas.

The regis (formally just statues) come to life, and with their great power, start destroying things.

With the help of Regigigas, Man confines the Regis to sealed chambers.

Man then turns on Regigigas (Who is exhausted from the struggle), and seals him away too.

Mew gives birth to Mewtwo

A Space virus mutates into Deoxys.
 
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The Pokemon God just said "Let there be Pokemon"..."and candy"!!! After that the devil created May...
 
I'm butting into this conversation a bit late I understand but for what it's worth, in one of my RP journals, I wrote out what I *believe* to be a creation story for the Pokemon World.

You can check it out here: http://argent-eyes.livejournal.com/536.html

And if anyone has any ideas of things I should change or could expand on then by all means...
 
I think Groudon and Kyogre made the land in Hoen, Zapdos, Moltres and Articuno made the orange islands, Ho-oh made the sky and rainbows and when we see new regions we see new legendary pokemon that could made the pokemon regions and making a world
 
The Power of the Phoenix

Hang on. I think we forgot something. Entei, Raikou, and Suicune were "resurrected" by Ho-Oh from three Pokémon that were killed by humans in the Brass (Burned) Tower. This would mean that the legendary beasts did not exist at the time. They were most likely replacements for the Pokémon that died, which has yet to be disclosed.
 
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