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The Status of Our Friend Red.

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I was thinking and realized.. Is Red really the epic guy we once knew still? I mean he stopped a criminal organization. So lets think if he met gen 3 or 4's heroes.
Brendan/May:So I stopped these two rival hippie groups from drastically ruining the worlds geography..
Lucas/Dawn:I stopped a psychopath with NO emotion yet had a crobat from destroying the known world with god pokemon.
Red:... ..
THE REAL REASON RED IS SPEECHLESS.
then Gold walks in..
Gold:Dude I had to finish up cleaning up the mess you left with Team Rocket. And rebeat your Region.
That leaves Red with the accomplishment of capturing Mewtwo and leaving Mt.Ceruleon in ruins in GS.. Which is revoked in HG/SS where it is in fact Gold that captures Mewtwo. As well as the birds. And With an Arceus in hand finishes the god subplot of DPPT and gains a newborn minigod.
Gold even steals the epicness of Brendan summoning Rayquaza by getting his own.
Gold/Hibiki/Ethan whatever you wish to call him.
Anyways. Red got shafted. His only legacy if you can call it one, is being the inspiration of Ash.
 
So basically what you're trying to say is, Gold is the new Red?
 
"I got a pikachu..."

"Fuck that noise, son! I got so much Raichu it's coming out my butt! I got 30 Pichu, one of which looks like yours but cuter and another that's from some sort of crazy-ass future-past!! You got three starters I GOT TWELVE STARTERS."
 
Red is epic. Look at his sprite. Only Leaf and Cynthia are cooler. His team is epic. His personality? Epic (but he's apparently a blabber mouth). Does anyone else isolate themself from everyone and stand in a frozen mountain, without a coat, in the dark? For months on end?

However..Dawn and May are technically better then him when it comes to what they did. Dawn saved the flipping ''world'' and May beat two cults.

Lyra/Ethan? Not so much.
 
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Somari said:
Red is epic. Look at his sprite. Only Leaf and Cynthia are cooler. His team is epic. His personality? Epic (but he's apparently a blabber mouth).

However..Dawn and May are technically better then him when it comes to what they did. Dawn saved the flipping ''world'' and May beat ''two'' cults.

Lyra/Ethan? Not so much.
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Except Lyra/Ethan beat Red.

Red is the symbol for epic in pokemon in G/S/C/HG/SS. you find him in/on the deepest part of a cave full of powerful pokemon and come across him, standing all cool looking and stuff, and battle the strongest trainer in the series.
 
I find Red to have and amazing team from the 1ST GENERATION plus even with legends he can still be tough
 
It's not canon that Mewtwo is captured by anyone, all we know is that Mewtwo is battled by them. Whether you as the player character chooses to catch them or not does not affect the canon.
Champion Lance said:
How do we know that Red was ever beaten? What you do in the game is not canon.
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Yeah, whenever I play the game, I like to just think Gold/Ethan/Kris/Lyra's story ends when they challenge Red and he sends out Pikachu.
 
Poor Red. He was so cool back then, but all the games have just getting so much more dramatic. Just like with the legendaries. Mewtwo used to be woah-so-awesome, but now we have Arceus, the freaking Pokemon god.
 
You do have a point. Ethan has done far more than Red. But Red is still awesome. He did take League champ, he did defeat TR (come on, it's not Red's fault they came back), he spent three years atop a mountain in the snow without a coat, and he's the toughest trainer in the games. Sure you beat him (like everyone else) but that doesn't make him less epic.

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Red will always be epic, afterall he's the strongest trainer in the game. (Until you defeat him...) But I do like Gold better. It seems like he's happier than Red.
 
Red fucking needs a longcoat of awesome and longer hair when they make an older version of him someday. I mean a short sleeved longcoat of awesome. Then he would be the king.
 
Why does everyone say he's in a cave? I'm sure he was on top of Mt. Silver when I battled him..

But even though, Red is epic, and he'll always be... epic. I mean, he was the first one of all the player-characters. And.. He defeated Team Rocket, and then Giovanni became afraid of him. A powerful man, probably between 40 and 50 years old, afraid for an 11-year old, that's just epic! ;D
 
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