The Ultimate Challenge Song

[matt0044]

You remember this song that popped up in the Sinnoh League Victors season of the dub? I liked it. I honestly wish that TPCi took a page out of Digimon's JPN version and use it more often as a climax song for when a battle is about to get really epic and s**t's going down. Like Brave Heart or Break Up. Plus, I wish they made a full version and release it for download.

What did you think?

 

[The Power of Pika]

That would be nice. Personally I would like a CD with that song plus maybe a couple of the dub BGM tunes. While I understand some people don't like some of TPCI's dub bgm there were a few pieces I do like and would love to have separately. Also I wouldn't mind seeing the full versions of some of the latest theme tunes on CD aswell.=)

I can dream.^-^

Though yeah I'd love to see the ultimate challenge released in some shape or form and maybe used a few more times in the show. However I wouldn't want to see it overdone since it's quite a special song in my opinion.

 

[Iteru]

I wish both the dub and the raw did that with vocal songs honestly. I like quite a lot of the BGM in Pokémon but there are definitely times when I just want to hear an amazing song in its place, especially as they usually get ingrained in my mind. It would also allow for a bit more variety as I do think that both the dub and the raw overuse certain "winning" tracks.

 

[MizuTaipu]

While it's sad that the Japanese version isn't using any vocal songs for Best Wishes! nowadays, I do really like some of the instrumental pieces that they do use like the music that played when Mamepato evolved into Hatoboh as well as the Best Wishes! instrumental.

 

[matt0044]

Though yeah I'd love to see the ultimate challenge released in some shape or form and maybe used a few more times in the show. However I wouldn't want to see it overdone since it's quite a special song in my opinion.

Yeah, I wish TPCi would make their BGM as good as TUC or better if John takes so much pride in it (though no dub music would be better, good music is still good). Plus, if they must replaced the Best Wishes Miyazaki Arrangement, I wish they'd make more vocal songs at times like The Ultimate Challenge so the latter isn't overdone.

And even if the battle wasn't well liked, Ash and Iris's Don Battle would've rocked with The Ultimate Challenge making a comeback.

 

[BladeLight52]

I just wish that the people running TPCI would stop being such cheapskates.

 

[matt0044]

I just wish that the people running TPCI would stop being such cheapskates.

And talentless hacks at dubbing the Pokemon Anime as well. For some reason, they and 4kids (plus, Saban) think that they "know" kids despise orchestrated music with actual goddamn instruments and use effortless synth music that sounds like any other generic cartoon BGM. Sorry to break it to you but YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO THAT ON PURPOSE. Generic BGM on cartoons is a result of laziness and being treated as a mere afterthought. NOT because it was intended. Jeez, these guys are the textbook definition of "stupidly unnecessary." And that's putting it mildly.

But that's for another thread. For now, let's not dwell on the above.

 

[BladeLight52]

I just wish that the people running TPCI would stop being such cheapskates.

And talentless hacks at dubbing the Pokemon Anime as well. For some reason, they and 4kids (plus, Saban) think that they "know" kids despise orchestrated music with actual goddamn instruments and use effortless synth music that sounds like any other generic cartoon BGM. Sorry to break it to you but YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO THAT ON PURPOSE. Generic BGM on cartoons is a result of laziness and being treated as a mere afterthought. NOT because it was intended. Jeez, these guys are the textbook definition of "stupidly unnecessary." And that's putting it mildly.

But that's for another thread. For now, let's not dwell on the above.

Sorry. I meant to say that The Ultimate Challenge would be considered "decent" at best or on par with some insert songs from Japan. I just wish that TPCi would make more vocal songs that actually have effort put to them like TUC instead of being cheapskates by focusing more on making instrumental music that doesn't come close to Miyazaki's work. I know it's for another thread, but I would like to have a say in this as this is kinda related to what I'm talking about. Instead of composing instrumental compositions, why not make more good vocal songs and get a higher pay?

 

[matt0044]

Sorry. I meant to say that The Ultimate Challenge would be considered "decent" at best or on par with some insert songs from Japan. I just wish that TPCi would make more vocal songs that actually have effort put to them like TUC instead of being cheapskates by focusing more on making instrumental music that doesn't come close to Miyazaki's work. I know it's for another thread, but I would like to have a say in this as this is kinda related to what I'm talking about. Instead of composing instrumental compositions, why not make more good vocal songs and get a higher pay?

Ah, that I can get behind on. As for Japan, I wish they made more image songs and insert songs for Pokemon as well.

 

[Dogasu]

Hell, it'd be nice if we could actually hear "The Ultimate Challenge" (which, by the way, is just a fan title for the song since TPCI has never come out and stated what the song's actually called) clearly the few times it is played. We don't even know all the lyrics to it because the song was always being drowned out by the characters' voices and the sound effects. The sound mix in the dub is terrible.

 

[matt0044]

Hell, it'd be nice if we could actually hear "The Ultimate Challenge" (which, by the way, is just a fan title for the song since TPCI has never come out and stated what the song's actually called) clearly the few times it is played. We don't even know all the lyrics to it because the song was always being drowned out by the characters' voices and the sound effects. The sound mix in the dub is terrible.

That's why I said that it'd be great to have the song official released and (perhaps) extended.