Theory. Alola connects with Sinnoh

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Look at a globe. Find Hawaii. Head east, you come to America.
Head west and the Very First thing you come to is Japan. Specifically the Hokkaido region.
Personally, I would argue that travelling there would be a lot easier than France (which is on the other side of the globe).

We already have connectivity with Kanto, thanks to the original games on virtual console. We've just had the Hoenn region remade, and there's ONLY four islands in Alola. Unless there's a MASSIVE underwater network of tunnels, there's gonna be a lot of post game to take up the rest of the data on our game cartridge.

So, either we're headed back to Sinnoh, OR gen 4 gets remade this time around. Or half life 3, I dunno I get confused easily.

Any thoughts? Am I being stupid for dismissing the zygarde forms as just something they've added to Sun and Moon.? (Did people think we were going back to Kanto when they released new forms for Mewtwo?) Does real world location bear any significance on the Pokemon world?
 
If Alola is to connect to any region it is Kalos but I think we are not getting two regions anyway. Sinnoh is best saved for remakes which probably won't be in this gen and on the 3DS. If there is another region in Sun and Moon then that be fine. The 3DS can handled it. The normal DS system could handle HGSS which is two regions. But like I said, I think Alola region is the only region for Sun and Moon.
 
You are correct. There is no way Alola can hold all 722 current pokemon.

But i also think people are looking way too into it. No, I don't think Sinnoh is returning this generation. As much as I want it to. I don't think Kalos will be attached to Alola. Or Kanto or any other region.

Where do i think those 722 pokemon will come from? Kalos and Hoenn, via X, Y, OR and AS. And the VC games. All via pokemon bank.
 
Mighty Eevee said:
You are correct. There is no way Alola can hold all 722 current pokemon.
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Mighty Eevee said:
Where do i think those 722 pokemon will come from? Kalos and Hoenn, via X, Y, OR and AS. And the VC games. All via pokemon bank.
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Im not sure what your point is here? Even in gen 6 they spread all the pokemon out over 4 games, so i wouldnt expect to see every pokemon in Sun and Moon. Even with the QR Scanner, we definitly wont be catching 'em all. We will still need (And Nintendo will still Sell) all the games you mentioned.

leetic said:
6,221 km between Hawaii and Hokkaido. 4899 km between Hawaii and NYC. So if anything, Alola's more likely to be connected to Unova.
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Excellent point, except most of the distance between Hawaii and new york is a huge land mass. Between Hawaii and Hokkaido, theres nothing but water. As we're already going to be crossing water between the four alola islands, be it by boat or surf, itd be more in theme with the rest of the game to continue surfing/boating to Hokkaido. (Not saying we WOULD surf to Hokkaido... hopefully not anyway... too much water...)
 
I'm not following this line of thought at all, but in general there is something very reminicent of Sinnoh this gen. Like the plot focus on there 4 guardians reminds me of the Sinnoh Lake Trio, the RotomDex could work in Sinnoh, and the music takes you back to that era, in a good non nostalgic way. I also have a feeling they can get away with being on the 3DS for a good while still, as the time difference between SM and NX Handheld could be much longer then the 6 months between BW and the 3DS, and perhaps they could squeeze remakes in this gen.
 
If we're talking Japanese islands, wouldn't it make more sense for the Sevii Islands to be connected? It's closer than Hokkaido or any other part of Japan.
 
bugmaniac20 said:
If we're talking Japanese islands, wouldn't it make more sense for the Sevii Islands to be connected? It's closer than Hokkaido or any other part of Japan.
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*Slamming fork and knife on table*
Remake the post-game! Remake the post game!

For real though, there's nothing but water between Hawaii and Japan in general, any of the first 4 gens could be getting s remake by this logic. I'm personally rooting for Hoenn. :p
 
ToddMann10000 said:
Any thoughts? Am I being stupid for dismissing the zygarde forms as just something they've added to Sun and Moon.? (Did people think we were going back to Kanto when they released new forms for Mewtwo?)
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IIRC, there actually were a fair few who expected some kind of Kanto remakes within gen VI, and looking at the VC releases and Go, they were a little bit right. The Kanto love in gen VI forms etc. wasn't for no reason. Similarly, the zygarde love isn't for no reason. At least, I don't think so.
 
In all seriousness though, Sinnoh would make more sense for me this gen then next cause there is something...poetic if you may, about remakes for Hoenn and Sinnoh in these Gens. Kalos is kinda like a neo Kanto and Alola could turn up to be a neo Johto, so having remakea of the generations the remakes of Kanto/Johto appeared i respectively kinda works. Anyone else get what I mean?
 
I think it's a bit of a jump to say that real world Alola is close to real world Hokkaido = Sinnoh might be attached to Alola. Apart from the other logical inconsistencies in that assumption, I don't think they'd remake Gen 4 as a post-game addendum to gen 7.

As others have said I do believe Gen 4 will be remade, but like FRLG/HGSS/ORAS it surely deserves its own new duo of games - whether on the 3DS or the next console I'm not sure. I like @Mitchman 's theory that Sun/Moon feel like they're kind of...whispering that Sinnoh remakes are close. But perhaps not on the horizon just yet.
 
Whipsers are how it startes for HGSS in Gen 4 and ORAS in gen 6. Gen 5 was obvious in its isolation and not getting a remake, I dunno why people felt like they were going do it that gen despite it happening twice in a row. Here they have breathing room, and I can see gen 8 on the next handheld by 2020 tbh. 3DS t going anywhere for a while.
 
Mitchman said:
Kalos is kinda like a neo Kanto
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Basically, Kalos continues to copy everything from Kanto, including its generational partner games. :p

In all seriousness, I really hope that Alola doesn't replicate all of Johto's structural beats. Frankly, I don't know why people seem so obsessed with Alola being a "new Johto." I would much rather have Alola be Alola; something new. I could tolerate what Kalos did once, but twice in a row would feel really lazy.
 
Mitchman said:
Whipsers are how it startes for HGSS in Gen 4 and ORAS in gen 6. Gen 5 was obvious in its isolation and not getting a remake, I dunno why people felt like they were going do it that gen despite it happening twice in a row. Here they have breathing room, and I can see gen 8 on the next handheld by 2020 tbh. 3DS t going anywhere for a while.
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So now they have breathing room until 2020 even though just 4 months ago you were pretty adamant about NX games coming in 2017? I don't see a reason to expect this generation to last longer than three years.

And to say that there are "whispers" about anything at this point is pretty desperate.
 
At that point it was assumed Handheld NX sould be a 2016 product, not 2017. A theoretical launch at Decembef 2017 with Gen 8 in 2020 is roughly the equivalent of BW launchinv in 2009 instead of 2010. Not impossible at all.
 
I don't see there being a point for DPPt remakes, despite my wanting them. Between XY and ORAS, you can capture literally all the Pokemon in the Gen 6 Pokedex, so there wouldn't be much value in giving Diamond and Pearl remakes. If anything, I think this gen will either have the fabled third version or sequels, or some other new approach GF has yet to try.
 
ShinyGreninja said:
I don't see there being a point for DPPt remakes, despite my wanting them. Between XY and ORAS, you can capture literally all the Pokemon in the Gen 6 Pokedex, so there wouldn't be much value in giving Diamond and Pearl remakes. If anything, I think this gen will either have the fabled third version or sequels, or some other new approach GF has yet to try.
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There are more reasons to do remakes than to let players complete the National Dex. Sure, it's *a* compelling motive, but it's one among several.
 
Despite Sinnoh being my favorite region. *Grits teeth.* I don't think it will return, the only way I see it if the region number from the last Sinnoh region route restarts(the last numbered route in the game continues from that number) and that is the first route number(forget which one it is, someone post that below please). I see Alola being more connected to Unova and or Orre(being based on Arizona) of all places. In real world terms and geologically Hawaii is much closer towards the Arizona and New York areas of the U.S even if it is 10 or more hours by flight. However, despite that setback those two are most likely to return(though Orre as a very lower chase than Unova since it was Coliseum and XD only).
 
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