Theory on Darkrai

[Red_Rampardos]

Ok this is my own theory on the Darkrai Pokemon I have read up on it and come to this conclusion. Darkrai have a very aggressive attitude rivaling a Gyarados. Though they have are sorta like in my opinion a Samurai and have there own code. So what do you think Is it possible or am I just fooling myself...he he he Darkrai in Samurai Armor...

 

[X Dragoon]

I'm thinking Darkrai just like the mess with people's dreams.......they really don't mean any harm......as shown in the movie.....it was trying to protect others from Dialga and Palkia, it's just plain misunderstood...

 

[The Outrage]

What have you been reading up to come to that conclusion? From the small Lunar Wing story in D/P and the Pokédex entries, I came to the conclusion that putting people to sleep and giving them bad dreams is just its defense mechanism when it feels threatened.

That was backed up by Platinum's entry. I can see where you would think Darkrai may be malevolent, but an aggressive attitude rivalng Gyarados?

 

[Red_Rampardos]

I never said it was Malevolent it is just a naturally aggressive pokemon by Nature, and I know that the Nightmare thing is a Defense Mechanism, though it has been shown to be able to control the power somewhat.

 

[The Outrage]

I never said it was Malevolent it is just a naturally aggressive pokemon by Nature, and I know that the Nightmare thing is a Defense Mechanism, though it has been shown to be able to control the power somewhat.

I meant "why one could see it as malevolent" but an agressive Pokemon by nature, whose attitude rivals that of Gyarados? Those things have been known to go on rampages for no reason (or merely because there is a conflict).

Oh and just because something is a defense mechanism doesn't mean that one can control it, and you still avoid the question "What have you been reading up to come to that conclusion?"

 

[Red_Rampardos]

Well from both the Games Mysterious Dungeon and D/P/Pl it is shown that Darkrai is aggressive (ok not Gyaradose Aggressive maybe Charizard Aggressive) but back to the honor if you defeat in Battle in gains a lot respect for the one who defeated it (MD) but also the fact if you do something ruins it's planes like the kid. It will have it's interest peaked, though it seems to have a very large assumption of dept (The Movie). You following me so far? Even though I still think of Darkrai have a code of honor like a samurai, he sorta has the Magnificent B. quality to him.

 

[The Outrage]

You following me so far?

Not really since your grammar isn't that great and you seem to jump from one idea to another, example : " Though they have are sorta like in my opinion a Samurai and have there own code."

But I do get the jist of it and understand enough that you came to this conclusion based on Mystery Dungeon and D/P/Pt.

Of course, I'm wondering hwo you could have possibly come to this conclusion based on the main series games, as I have already stated in my previous post. Nothing in Darkrai seems aggressive, and it is only trying tod efend itself. Who knows what that little boy did to deserve a Dark Void, but certainly, the Player Character is threatening enough to it with the lunar wing.

You even mention Platinum in your reasoning, despite Platinum going against any theory of Darkrai being aggressive.

Platinum JP Although Darkrai will show nightmares to people and Pokémon within a radius of itself in self-defense, it has no malicious intent

Darkrai has the power to defeat most people and Pokemon in battle, but it would choose this more passive way of defeating those it finds threatening. Certainly, not aggressive. If it is aggressive, it would attack unprovoked, but since it sends nightmares out in self-defense, it must feel threatened to some extent, and is not attacking merely out of aggression. If it was sending out Nightmares jsut because it can, I wouldn't call it aggression either, but sadism, it would just enjoy the cruelty of trapping another creature in a bad dream.

Since I haven't played Mystery Dungeon, all I have to go with is Bulbapedia:

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2: Darkrai is revealed to be the main antagonist of the game in the post-game story. He wants to cover the world in darkness, and was behind the collapse of the Temporal Tower in the main storyline of the game. His interference is also the reason the player was separated from Grovyle and turned into a Pokémon. In the post-game story, he turns his attention to distorting the [COLOR=#009600! important][COLOR=#009600! important]fabric[/COLOR][/COLOR] of space to cover the world in darkness

This does not sound like aggression, more like pure evil.

In Ranger, Darkrai is only the "final boss" because it was controlled by the Dark Crystal that it was charged to guard. It does wind up helping the protagonist in a special mission.

 

[Red_Rampardos]

Sorry about the grammar it's almost as bad as my spelling. So according to you, you think that Darkrai is a Sadist could make sense maybe in the game Canon it is. In Mysterious Dungeon even though Darkrai is protraid as evil you can still get it to join you which still makes no sense to me I have never really played the second mysterious dungeon though I do read. In the movie I really just assumed this Darkrai has a sorta Knight Personality if you think about it. Maybe I just think to much?

 

[The Outrage]

Darkrai is a sadist if it just went out and gave people nightmares. I never taken that stance. I have already taken my stance that it only does this in self defense, not because it can if it wanted to.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I also think, as I've said elsewhere, that we need to view these as individuals. Each Darkrai we've seen is different--some could be evil while others aren't.

 

[Red_Rampardos]

So you could say the Movie Darkrai had a Knight like personality the Game Darkrai is a Sadist, the Mysterious Dungeon Darkrai is a Evil but with honor, and the Ranger one I am not sure about...never played the second one.

 

[Treemo]

My opinion is that the nightmares are likely Darkrai's natural defense when threatened or harmed. And it's not particularly agressive just territorial.

 

[The Outrage]

So you could say the Movie Darkrai had a Knight like personality the Game Darkrai is a Sadist, the Mysterious Dungeon Darkrai is a Evil but with honor, and the Ranger one I am not sure about...never played the second one.

The game Darkrai isn't a sadist either. Its not like it went out and put everyone in Canalave to sleep when it could have. It felt threatened by the trainer and confronted him/her.

Do I need to emphasize the if?

 

[PDL]

I picture Darkrai as a solitary creature who just wants to be left alone, but has a reputation of being a malcious being.

Most dark Pokémon seem to suffer from this reputation: Murkrow, Absol included.

Ghost types and Poison types are also casted as "evil" as well. Even though they aren't.

 

[Te-em]

They're called Aku-Type (evil-type) Pokemon, but aren't really evil. Maybe they can become evil more easily than other pokemon, or maybe they're just seem more evil when they fight. Their attacks are like Thief (stealing is usually evil) and Aku no Hadou (which I think is based on bad feelings.) They also have Tsujigiri, which is an attack based on that some samurai tested their swords on unwary passerby at crossroads, and that's not very nice is it? But just because the Pokemon uses these techniques and belong to that Type does not have to mean their evil.

A Pokemon species is neutral. An individual Pokemon might be good or bad, just like humans. But most Pokemon do what their Trainers say, so the Rocket Dan's Pokemon does not have to be evil (they just do what their masters say).

 

[The Outrage]

They're called Aku-Type (evil-type) Pokemon, but aren't really evil. Maybe they can become evil more easily than other pokemon, or maybe they're just seem more evil when they fight.

Or maybe its because the people in the Pokémon World were scared of their looks and anticsand merely classified then as evil?

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

So how did things like Umbreon come to be classified as such when there's no such tales about it? And then why not things like Crobat?

 

[DracoMan]

I think calling them "evil-type" reflects a misunderstanding of their true nature. For example, there was an episode in which people on some island were afraid of Absol because whenever it showed up, bad things happened. They assumed that Absol must be causing misfortunes when, in fact, it was trying to warn the townspeople.