Three forms of Shellos?

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I've been updating the Pokecharms Pokedex to have corrected sprites now that I've got a full set of them (courtesy of Veekun) and the time to do it and have been fixing up Shellos/Gastrodon's sprite set only to find that there's an extra set of sprites in there:

http://www.pokecharms.com/webdex/index.php?No=422
http://www.pokecharms.com/webdex/index.php?No=423

The back sprites all have an extra - completely different - form. The front sprites, for some reason, don't have anything to match this.

I'm surprised no-one's brought this up before (or have they and I've been asleep that day?).

If it's a third form to be used in another game, it's a pretty damned odd way to do it - considering it's the front sprites you would see, not the back sprites - unless it were to stay that way through trading (but still, front sprites missing...).

So... yeah.. oddness.
 
They don't look like a seperate form ala East and West Shellos, but rather a gender difference that was scrapped.
 
I dunno, Shellos at least (not so much Gastrodon, though the colours still match the Western one) looks like a hybrid of the East and West ones. Screams more a third form to settle between the two than a random Gender difference. (It would also be the most drastic Gender difference in the entire game if I'm not mistaken).
 
But if there is no front sprite, how could it be used as a third form?

It cannot be gender difference, 4 sprites would be needed, two for each part of Sinnoh. It must be something scrapped, there is no shiny difference as well.
 
I was wondering if a Third version could possibly be for Post-E4 Johto....
 
Well what happens if you breed a blue shellos with a pink one?
 
I'm thinking that that third form was what would result if you bred the West and East Shellos/Gastrodon. It has a combination of their features.
 
it seems that it could be a breeded version, i have a feeling Shellos forms are gonna be as common abundent as Eevee evolutions the pokedex says they vary from region to region and 2 are known in Sinnoh so each gen could add new Shellos forms
 
They really need to start introducing that for Arbok too, since it had the original version of the idea, even if they never implemented it right.

I'm thinking that that third form was what would result if you bred the West and East Shellos/Gastrodon. It has a combination of their features.
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Yeah, that's the conclusion I came to. It's a little weird though because it's color isn't that different, though.
 
Well, the weird third one isn't a result of breeding blue and pink shellos. You'll just end up with a shellos the same colour as the female.
 
uhhhhh my pokedex says the the sprites are the same on front and back so i dunno wat everyone is talking bout plus the pictures are not showing up :(
 
Maybe they planned on making a Shellos/Gastrodon that was in neither East nor West.

Maybe thatll be the one that will appear in other games if it appears
 
(I know I'm new but hear me out)

This was also brought up at SPPF...I believe the reason we mostly agreed on there was that Shellos/Gastrodon was originally intended to be a single-form Pokémon in the beta, and that's left over from when they decided to make an east and west version. Maybe they forgot to get rid of the back pose, but got the front?
 
In a Nintendo Power interview with Gamefreak, Junichi Masuda said "There's also a sea-slug Pokemon that we weren't able to put in Ruby and Sapphire that we were able to put in this one..."

Maybe that sprite is just the one they made for Ruby and Sapphire? The only way I can think of an East and West in Hoenn would be that river that cuts off the Mauville side from the Fortree side, but otherwise R/S Shellos may have been a single form. Perhaps they only came up with the idea of two Shellos after making Mt. Cornet.
 
Dreadsilver said:
In a Nintendo Power interview with Gamefreak, Junichi Masuda said "There's also a sea-slug Pokemon that we weren't able to put in Ruby and Sapphire that we were able to put in this one..."

Maybe that sprite is just the one they made for Ruby and Sapphire? The only way I can think of an East and West in Hoenn would be that river that cuts off the Mauville side from the Fortree side, but otherwise R/S Shellos may have been a single form. Perhaps they only came up with the idea of two Shellos after making Mt. Cornet.
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It's too big to be a sprite from R/S, all the D/P sprites are 80x80, the AG sprites are 64x64.

Interesting tid-bit about Shellos' creation though.
 
I mean the design, not really the sprite itself. You can see the similarities in poses, etc. with R/S sprites compared to D/P:
hoenn_sinnoh_comparison.png

There are other examples like that too. Gyarados and Poochyena have essentially the same pose and design, and Slakoth is basically the same.

But since you're referring to the backsprites, yeah, it takes up more space. It probably is just a remnant of some earlier design. I know there are a few trainer sprites that have slightly different limb poses, etc that were unused.
 
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What if it's one that's gonna show up next gen, but can be sent back, like Speed Deoxys, except that couldn't go to any other game, so you kinda get my point.
 
Perhaps they were going to make only one form of SHellos like they intended to do in RS (possibly) and then afterwards, they decided to make two forms and scrapped the first.

Also, the pics don't show up for me. Can anyone post the pics for me?
 
I think it's a beta leftover from R/S as well. I made a topic about it at Serebii and am also spreading info about it on Nintendo's forums. I made a page showing the sprites and found someone posted it on Nintendo's forums XD so I joined in.

Pictures of the three forms:
http://www.freewebtown.com/mkrp/pokemon/variants.html

Serebii topic:
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=223018

Nintendo topic:
http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=pokemon&message.id=3071587

Wikipedia talk page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Shellos
 
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