Tickets: A Moral Dilemma

[zlxq3000]

So, as everyone probably knows by now, the Tickets in Gen 3 are almost impossible to get anymore. By "Tickets", I mean the event items required to travel to otherwise unavailable areas of the game to capture legendary pokemon, such as Birth Island, Navel Rock, and Faraway Island.

As this is the case, I have to wonder: would it be immoral to use a Gameshark to travel to these areas? Not to do anything like create infinite Master Balls to capture them in or hack the stats of the pokemon I'd use to battle the legendaries, but just to get to the islands. There are codes that allow one to teleport from any doorway to the entry points of these islands; I used them once before with no ill effects, but I got rid of the pokemon because I didn't want to be considered a cheater. However, I do currently have all of the pokemon found on these islands legitimately (Colo's Ho-oh, XD's Lugia, Ranch's Mew, and Gamestop's Deoxys); I just want to go back to Birth Island to get some more Deoxys...es... so that I can try to have one of each of its formes to complete my super collection.

So, is it wrong to use a cheating device to make one's way to an unobtainable area solely because it's impossible to get to anymore because of the company that does the events for them doesn't do them anymore?

(Also, I'm pretty sure the only Ticket that they'll still give out is the Eon Ticket, which I don't need, and I'd have to send the carts to Europe and pay for them to do it. I'm not THAT desperate, and I'd use the GTS if people weren't making impossible offers and my wifi always worked with my DS.)

 

[Patchy]

It's a Pokemon game. It's YOUR Pokemon game. I don't think it's a big deal, and after all, a lot of people do it. If Nintendo weren't so hungry for money, you wouldn't even have to use a cheat device.

I had no problem doing it in the past, I don't see why anyone would unless they detest cheating.

 

[Iteru]

I think it's fine to obtain the items illegitimately as the encounter with the legendary will still have random IVs and nature.

 

[new mew]

Chaeting fun.

 

[Falconwing]

I wouldn't do it. But I don't like cheating. However, it is pretty impossible to get the tickets now, so maybe if I was faced with this... Hmm... I don't know. This is something you have to answer yourself.

 

[TTEchidna]

It's wrong, but considering I only do it for the fun of it and not to use them competitively anyway...

 

[Hector]

It's your game, you can do what you want.

that being said, if you do want to use them competitively, then you can't be doing anything besides activating the encounter.

 

[zlxq3000]

This is something you have to answer yourself.

If I could do that, I wouldn't have made this thread.

It's your game, you can do what you want.

that being said, if you do want to use them competitively, then you can't be doing anything besides activating the encounter.

That's all I'd be doing; there's a code that allows you to teleport to an island when you enter a door (ie. you punch in one of the codes, walk out of your house, and BOOM, you're on Navel Rock). It wouldn't be an encounter, the pokemon wouldn't be hacked. It'd just be a way to get to the islands.

 

[Glitchipedia]

My thought on the subject is...if you're using a cheating device to encounter the Pokémon in any way, shape or form, you might as well just hack the Pokémon directly into your party. After all, you're still finding the Pokémon illegitimately.

If I ever needed these things in Generation III, I'd just travel around looking for a fellow trainer who obtained them legitimately.

However...I will admit, I've used GameShark on my Blue Version to encounter Glitch Pokémon and Professor Oak, but I swear to God that's all I did. And yet, I still managed to change my ID Number without knowing how.

 

[zlxq3000]

My thought on the subject is...if you're using a cheating device to encounter the Pokémon in any way, shape or form, you might as well just hack the Pokémon directly into your party. After all, you're still finding the Pokémon illegitimately.

If I ever needed these things in Generation III, I'd just travel around looking for a fellow trainer who obtained them legitimately.

However...I will admit, I've used GameShark on my Blue Version to encounter Glitch Pokémon and Professor Oak, but I swear to God that's all I did. And yet, I still managed to change my ID Number without knowing how.

Well I don't necessarily agree with that. First of all, programming a now-impossible-to-obtain pokemon directly into one's party is different from actually going to their location and battling them. Secondly, I don't know anyone who was playing gen 3 games back when the events were going on, and even if I did, I'm sure that those people would've already transferred their event pokemon into the fourth-gen games by now. I did try sort of doing this by going on the GTS and looking, but I don't know where I could get a level 9 Palkia (or two, for that matter) for the next six months or so.

 

[Swampert tamer]

Using GameShark to get event-only pokémon doesn't sound legit.. but given the circumstances I'd probably agree in using the code to battle them, since they are otherwise impossible / very dificult / very expensive to get.

It's different from using the gameshark to get perfect IVs pokemon or a bunch of rare candies and masterballs, since you're not using the codes to make the gameplay easier.

If having those event pokemon make you happy, go ahead.

 

[H-con]

I hate events very exclusive events. It's very unfair if the (only) event is held 400 kilometers away. Thus, I'm all for Wi-Fi-events. Events at shops like Gamestop might work, but it still is a bit unfair for those that don't have Gamestop in their town.
As for cheating, I don't cheat. I wouldn't cheat either. But then again, it is very unfair that you can't get them, especially when there's no events anymore. I wouldn't do it though, but it's not like cheating to get a shiny Deoxys with 31 in all IVs and Judgement, Roar of Time, Water Spout and Earthquake.

 

[Glitchipedia]

Well I don't necessarily agree with that. First of all, programming a now-impossible-to-obtain pokemon directly into one's party is different from actually going to their location and battling them.

Cheating is cheating is cheating. If you're using an external device to alter the game's behavior in any way—including obtaining otherwise unobtainable event Pokémon without giving them superior stats—it is still illegitimate.

Secondly, I don't know anyone who was playing gen 3 games back when the events were going on, and even if I did, I'm sure that those people would've already transferred their event pokemon into the fourth-gen games by now. I did try sort of doing this by going on the GTS and looking, but I don't know where I could get a level 9 Palkia (or two, for that matter) for the next six months or so.

First off, the idea is to look for these people, not simply know them from the local area. Search around everywhere you go. Who knows? You might get lucky.

As to the GTS problem, you could always look in the Bulbagarden Trading Board.

It's different from using the gameshark to get perfect IVs pokemon or a bunch of rare candies and masterballs, since you're not using the codes to make the gameplay easier.

Technically, you are using the codes to make the gameplay easier, since you're forcing the game to grant the encounter rather than actually looking for the Pokémon legitimately.

 

[DerMißingno]

It's morally wrong, you're going to hell.

 

[zlxq3000]

@ H con: I like wifi events, too. However, I'm talking about gen 3 games, where wifi events don't apply.

@ Glitch: ...What? You make it sound like I'm punching in codes to randomly encounter legendary shiny pokemon with perfect IVs and natures in any patch of grass in the game. All I'd be doing is using a single code to warp from a point in the game to an island that is completely inaccessible because the events that are required to get to them don't happen anymore. I'd still have to do the puzzles to get the pokemon, and the encounter would still be totally randomized (as in the IVs/nature wouldn't be set in stone). Also, I'm glad that you think that everyone has the time to travel all over the place looking for fellow trainers, but the truth of the matter is that I really don't have that kind of time; I'm too busy to seek out anyone who plays these games on the off-chance that they have a Deoxys that they'd be willing to give away.

 

[Zalde]

This is a-ok in my book, since pre-Gen IV events were nigh impossible to do feasibly unless one lived in a major metropolitan area. Plus, all the work you have to do in-game pretty much still exists. What're you missing, talking to sailors and cut-scenes? Big whoop.

 

[Clefable]

I used a AR in my Pearl version for Members Card and Oaks Letter. Simply because i'm in the UK, and if by some happenchance a event does occur here, it's either at the other end of England or by the time i've found out i've missed it.

Or, like the time I went to Toys R Us to get a special monkey villager on my ANimal Crossing, their machines aren't working until after the event has passed.

Do it. If your not hacking the pokemon themselves, I consider them semi-legit and a perfectly acceptable way to get them if it's impossible for you.

 

[TPJerematic]

Go for it. I won't hate on you for it. Nor will most of the people on here ('cept maybe Glitchipedia .... i dunno [/joke])

Hell when the member card was released on Wi-Fi for Plat only i hacked it onto Diamond and Pearl. Am i going to use the darkrai i caught on Diamond and Pearl using the membercard ... probably ... will anyone be able to tell that the membercard i used wasn't legit ... only if they use something like Pokesav to copy the save to a computer and look at the hidden data values for the version ... otherwise it's no problem.

Also if you don't go around telling everyone that you used an AR / Gameshark to activate the event then no-one will care. What people don't know won't hurt them. Of course i just did the opposite of this BUT i don't care what people think.

 

[snorlax255]

Ok, cheating is wrong...
But... so is nintendo...
I wouldn't do it, I'll trade for them. Look in the trade threads, mostly the shops. If you want ledgends...
But if you must, go for it

 

[Gligar13]

No, because all it does is activate the encouter. And since gen 3 is old, it wont matter like with Gen IV.