Venezuela chooses new president after Chávez's death; Nicolás Maduro wins after fraud

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Following Hugo Chávez's death on March 5, 2013, Venezuela went to elections on April 14th to choose the late president's successor. Nicolás Maduro was chosen by Chávez himself as his successor and before he passed away he asked his people to vote for Maduro in case he died. Maduro faced Henrique Capriles, like Chávez did during the previous elections on October 7, 2012.

After many acts of vandalism, advantage and many crimes, Nicolás Maduro won by 50.6% of the votes against Capriles, who got 49,7%, with a mere difference of 230.000 votes. Capriles said he wouldn't accept the results until the votes were counted manually, vote by vote, because the results given by the National Elections Committee didn't match the results his team had calculated. Capriles suspects he's the actual winner and is executing his right to impugn the results.

The problem came when the National Elections Committee's representants started to steal the boxes that held the votes in many voting centers, and then burning them. International votes haven't been counted, and only a 70% of the national votes have been counted, aproximately. The government refuses to count every single vote manually and people have been protesting on the streets since April 15. There have been many riots, causing many injured people and several deaths all over the country. These protests plan on keep going on until the National Elections Committee accepts to count the votes manually.
 
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Flaze said:
Yeah things have gone to hell over here, though now it's on debate on whether the votes were really burned cause there are sources saying they were from 2010 but who knows.
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No, the boxes have the dates written on them and they all say April 14, 2013. Plus, the people from the military who burn the votes wear a band on their arm, which means they're with Chávez. It was what Chávez's followers wore when he died.
 
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Why am I not surprised that Maduro won (and by cheating no less); they essentially rigged the polls, and almost nobody, no matter who they voted for, is happy with the end results. This is especially in a country which, under Chavez, has produced double-digit inflation, severe shortages of power and staple foods, and one of the world’s highest murder rates. At this point, it's not going to get any better.
 
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@Anser; your location lists you as Venezuelan. Putting aside official news reports, what do you think is going on? What have you observed yourself?

Edit: And what do you think of Maduro and Caprilles?
 
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Robo-Floatzel said:
Why am I not surprised that Maduro won (and by cheating no less); they essentially rigged the polls, and almost nobody, no matter who they voted for, is happy with the end results. This is especially in a country which, under Chavez, has produced double-digit inflation, severe shortages of power and staple foods, and one of the world’s highest murder rates. At this point, it's not going to get any better.
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EXACTLY, that's the problem! It can only get worse. Chávez chose Maduro himself before he died. The main problem is that Maduro is a bus driver, he never finished high school! He has no idea of what he's doing. He doesn't know our country, he doesn't know the name of the states and their capitals, he doesn't talk well. He's mediocre, at least Chávez kind of knew what he was doing.

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@Anser; your location lists you as Venezuelan. Putting aside official news reports, what do you think is going on? What have you observed yourself?

Edit: And what do you think of Maduro and Caprilles?
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Well, I myself have participated in the riots. The thing is that Capriles calls us to protest in the streets in peace, without violence. Then, Chávez's followers come to throw stones at us, they start shooting at us, and the violence begins.

Capriles is a lawyer. Capriles studied law at the Catholic University Andrés Bello (the best and most prestigious university in the country) and became a specialist in commerce law. He also studied tax law at the Central University of Venezuela, and took courses at the IBFD International Tax Academy in Amsterdam, then kept studying in Italy, and in Columbia University in New York. He was the mayor of Baruta (a town in Miranda, the state where he comes from) to then become the governor of the whole state. The guy KNOWS what it is to have power. He speaks English, and has much more education than Maduro. Maduro knows absolutely nothing. He's just a bus driver that never finished high school and had some political jobs because Chávez liked him. He was Caracas's subway driver, and the president of its sindicate. That's all he's done in his whole life.
 
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That and Caprilles was the only opposition member who managed to keep his spot as governor in the last governor elections, even though most of the other states that were under the opposition were lost.

Plus like Anser says he actually has an education and at least you can see he actually has an idea of what he wants to do, whether he does it or not is obvious but at least with him you feel it´s actually true what he says. Maduro´s just using Chavez´s name and cliches to do what he wants, he even messes up words a lot like calling a stetoscope a microscope.

A lot of people abroad might think "oh how great that a bus driver became a president, this gives hope to everyone" but what´s the point when the person isn´t at least someone that studied well or that knows what he´s doing, the only thing he inspires is laziness and cheating.
 
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Iteru said:
BBC News - US holds back recognition for Venezuela's Nicolas Maduro

I personally think other countries should speak up like the US has.
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Oh thank God! There was an online petition, asking Obama to not recognize Maduro and to please interfere in this crime that is being committed. They asked for 100.000 signatures, and they got more than 200.000. We're desperate, Venezuela is going through a crisis!!
 
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I hope the opposition takes its rightful place in power. Chavez and his cronies ruined Venezuela, seemingly with the intent of allowing Chavez to establish a dictatorship in the name of the poor (despite the fact that all he did was wreck the economy and snub huge potential trading partners because he liked Castro more than Bush/Obama, but that's socialism and populism for you) but without actually helping the poor.

And regardless, at the end of the day Maduro didn't win legitimately. Caprilles won, and in democracies the majority wins, no matter what a tyrant and his soldiers seem to think.
 
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However, the National Elections Committee agreed today to count the remaining of the votes that weren't counted on April 14. 54% of the votes were counted that day, and now they're going to count the remaining 46%. Capriles had requested to re-count the 100% of the votes, though. He said that the 46% was still enough for him to be able to win, and that the current government, with Maduro proclaimed as the official president and all, is a "meantine government".

The bad thing is that the process of counting the remaining 46% of the votes will last a whopping 30 days. In that time, they can easily set up a trap and cheat to make Maduro the winner again, and the opposition will forget about everything and will just let the government do whatever they want because they will be tired of battling. It's like that in Venezuela, sadly.
 
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