Version Differences

[PenblooeR]

Bulbapedia's database is locked and I don't know where to put this... so yeah, some Bulbapedia admin, put this on the B2/W2 article if you want to

Black 2 Exclusives:

• Magmar
• Sudowoodo
• Heracross
• Magby
• Plusle
• Volbeat**
• Spoink
• Grumpig
• Latios
• Buneary
• Lopunny
• Bonsly
• Magmortar
• Cottonee*
• Whimsicott*
• Gothita
• Gothorita
• Gothitelle
• Vullaby
• Mandibuzz
• Zekrom

White 2 Exclusives:

• Mr. Mime
• Electabuzz
• Pinsir
• Elekid
• Skitty
• Delcatty
• Minun
• Illumise**
• Numel
• Camerupt
• Latias
• Electivire
• Mime Jr.
• Petilil*
• Lilligant*
• Solosis
• Duosion
• Reuniclus
• Rufflet
• Braviary
• Reshiram

Key Exclusives:

• Regice (White 2; Unova Link the "Iceberg Key" to Black 2 to obtain in that game)
• Registeel (Black 2; Unova Link the "Steel Key" to Black 2 to obtain in that game)
• Regigigas (Requires Regirock, Regice and Registeel)
• Black Kyurem (Zekrom must be traded from White/Black 2)
• White Kyurem (Reshiram must be traded from Black/White 2)

I saw this on another forum, IDK what's the original souce, but since Bulbapedia doesn't use sources...
Black 2 Pokémon seem more appealing to me :spin:

* - Petilil/Lilligant is obtainable in that in-game trade with that girl from Nacrene you all know
** - While you cannot catch wild Volbeat in White 2, as Illumise eggs have a chance of hatching Volbeat eggs, there is a chance you could hatch one

MOD EDIT: Adding "Key Exclusives" table.

 

[The Outrage]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

 

[Rocky505]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Which is why they are exclusives.

 

[Joshawott]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Personally, I think they should have made the Pokémon that were exclusive to Black, exclusive to White 2 and the Pokémon that were exclusive to White, exclusive to Black 2. Oh well.

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Except that you can only obtain Reshiram (Black 2) or Zekrom (White 2) by trading. So essentially, they are version exclusive - although obtainable. Sort of like the situation with Regice and Registeel.

 

[The Outrage]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Which is why they are exclusives.

._.

You aren't getting this are you? You trade Reshiram into Black 2, and you get White Kyurem. You trade Zekrom to White 2, you get Black Kyurem. The formes aren't exclusive to each version, merely the trigger. It's not the same scenario as Gen III where Deoxys' formes were exclusive to each version.

This is more like saying "Landorus is not available in-game in B/W because you can't catch both Thundurus and Tornadus in the same version". I mean, you actually only need to change four words in that sentence to apply it to this scenario.

The formes are not version exclusives as both formes are accessible in the game if you have both dragons, much the same way Pokemon like Rayquaza (in HgSs), Registeel (in B2W2), and Landorus (in BW) are accessible in the game if you have the required Pokemon available. Unless you want to argue those Pokemon aren't actually available in the game because you need a trade, or are "version exclusives" because you need to trade with the opposite version to do so.

Personally, I think they should have made the Pokémon that were exclusive to Black, exclusive to White 2 and the Pokémon that were exclusive to White, exclusive to Black 2. Oh well.

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Except that you can only obtain Reshiram (Black 2) or Zekrom (White 2) by trading. So essentially, they are version exclusive - although obtainable. Sort of like the situation with Regice and Registeel.

Like I said above, it's like saying Landorus or Registeel aren't available in BW or BW2 because you need to trade. Or you're calling Registeel or Landorus "version exclusives" when they're not. These are not version exclusive formes. Calling them that makes people believe this is a scenario similar to Deoxys in Gen III, where only one forme was accessible per version. Both formes are in the games, the triggers aren't. But they're as version exclusive as Registeel in B2W2, Landorus in BW, Rayquaza in HgSs, Regigigas in every game it appeared in.

You would not argue those Pokemon above as version-exclusives simply because their trigger requires you to trade with the opposite version, because they can be obtained in both versions when the requirements are met, correct? Same scenario here. What's version exclusive in those scenarios are the Regis, the other Kamis, and the Weather duo, but Registeel, Regigigias, Landorus, and Rayquaza are available in both games.

Reshiram and Zekrom are version exclusive. Black and White Kyurem is available in both games.

 

[PenblooeR]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Which is why they are exclusives.

._.

You aren't getting this are you? You trade Reshiram into Black 2, and you get White Kyurem. You trade Zekrom to White 2, you get Black Kyurem. The formes aren't exclusive to each version, merely the trigger. It's not the same scenario as Gen III where Deoxys' formes were exclusive to each version.

This is more like saying "Landorus is not available in-game in B/W because you can't catch both Thundurus and Tornadus in the same version". I mean, you actually only need to change four words in that sentence to apply it to this scenario.

The formes are not version exclusives as both formes are accessible in the game if you have both dragons, much the same way Pokemon like Rayquaza (in HgSs), Registeel (in B2W2), and Landorus (in BW) are accessible in the game if you have the required Pokemon available. Unless you want to argue those Pokemon aren't actually available in the game because you need a trade, or are "version exclusives" because you need to trade with the opposite version to do so.

This is a good point.

 

[Rocky505]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Which is why they are exclusives.

._.

You aren't getting this are you? You trade Reshiram into Black 2, and you get White Kyurem. You trade Zekrom to White 2, you get Black Kyurem. The formes aren't exclusive to each version, merely the trigger. It's not the same scenario as Gen III where Deoxys' formes were exclusive to each version.

This is more like saying "Landorus is not available in-game in B/W because you can't catch both Thundurus and Tornadus in the same version". I mean, you actually only need to change four words in that sentence to apply it to this scenario.

The formes are not version exclusives as both formes are accessible in the game if you have both dragons, much the same way Pokemon like Rayquaza (in HgSs), Registeel (in B2W2), and Landorus (in BW) are accessible in the game if you have the required Pokemon available. Unless you want to argue those Pokemon aren't actually available in the game because you need a trade, or are "version exclusives" because you need to trade with the opposite version to do so.

Personally, I think they should have made the Pokémon that were exclusive to Black, exclusive to White 2 and the Pokémon that were exclusive to White, exclusive to Black 2. Oh well.

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Except that you can only obtain Reshiram (Black 2) or Zekrom (White 2) by trading. So essentially, they are version exclusive - although obtainable. Sort of like the situation with Regice and Registeel.

Like I said above, it's like saying Landorus or Registeel aren't available in BW or BW2 because you need to trade. Or you're calling Registeel or Landorus "version exclusives" when they're not. These are not version exclusive formes. Calling them that makes people believe this is a scenario similar to Deoxys in Gen III, where only one forme was accessible per version. Both formes are in the games, the triggers aren't. But they're as version exclusive as Registeel in B2W2, Landorus in BW, Rayquaza in HgSs, Regigigas in every game it appeared in.

You would not argue those Pokemon above as version-exclusives simply because their trigger requires you to trade with the opposite version, because they can be obtained in both versions when the requirements are met, correct? Same scenario here. What's version exclusive in those scenarios are the Regis, the other Kamis, and the Weather duo, but Registeel, Regigigias, Landorus, and Rayquaza are available in both games.

Reshiram and Zekrom are version exclusive. Black and White Kyurem is available in both games.

According to serebii they are exclusives as they are on the version exclusive lists.

 

[Joshawott]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

True, good point.

Seems odd though. While it's great for the players, I would have expected GameFreak to give the B2W2 trio to have special tags that allow only them to be used.

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Where the heck is Regirock? Don't tell me they're doing a similar method with the Weather Trio in HG/SS and the Kami Trio in B/W.

 

[PenblooeR]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Spoiler

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Which is why they are exclusives.

._.

You aren't getting this are you? You trade Reshiram into Black 2, and you get White Kyurem. You trade Zekrom to White 2, you get Black Kyurem. The formes aren't exclusive to each version, merely the trigger. It's not the same scenario as Gen III where Deoxys' formes were exclusive to each version.

This is more like saying "Landorus is not available in-game in B/W because you can't catch both Thundurus and Tornadus in the same version". I mean, you actually only need to change four words in that sentence to apply it to this scenario.

The formes are not version exclusives as both formes are accessible in the game if you have both dragons, much the same way Pokemon like Rayquaza (in HgSs), Registeel (in B2W2), and Landorus (in BW) are accessible in the game if you have the required Pokemon available. Unless you want to argue those Pokemon aren't actually available in the game because you need a trade, or are "version exclusives" because you need to trade with the opposite version to do so.

Personally, I think they should have made the Pokémon that were exclusive to Black, exclusive to White 2 and the Pokémon that were exclusive to White, exclusive to Black 2. Oh well.

Black and White Kyurem aren't exclusive. If you trade one of the other dragons in the game, you can get both, just not at the same time.

Except that you can only obtain Reshiram (Black 2) or Zekrom (White 2) by trading. So essentially, they are version exclusive - although obtainable. Sort of like the situation with Regice and Registeel.

Like I said above, it's like saying Landorus or Registeel aren't available in BW or BW2 because you need to trade. Or you're calling Registeel or Landorus "version exclusives" when they're not. These are not version exclusive formes. Calling them that makes people believe this is a scenario similar to Deoxys in Gen III, where only one forme was accessible per version. Both formes are in the games, the triggers aren't. But they're as version exclusive as Registeel in B2W2, Landorus in BW, Rayquaza in HgSs, Regigigas in every game it appeared in.

You would not argue those Pokemon above as version-exclusives simply because their trigger requires you to trade with the opposite version, because they can be obtained in both versions when the requirements are met, correct? Same scenario here. What's version exclusive in those scenarios are the Regis, the other Kamis, and the Weather duo, but Registeel, Regigigias, Landorus, and Rayquaza are available in both games.

Reshiram and Zekrom are version exclusive. Black and White Kyurem is available in both games.

According to serebii they are exclusives as they are on the version exclusive lists.

Just because it's on Serebii it doesn't mean it's true. It can be discussed.

 

[Joshawott]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Where the heck is Regirock? Don't tell me they're doing a similar method with the Weather Trio and the Kami Trio.

You can catch Regirock in-game, as well as Regice (White 2) and Registeel (Black 2). However, once you capture Regirock you get given a key (Steel Key in B2, Iceberg Key in W2) - these keys can be transferred to another game via Unova Link, so the trio can technically be obtained in one version...you just need the key from another game.

So yeah, it's like that.

 

[Rocky505]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

 

[The Outrage]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

According to serebii they are exclusives as they are on the version exclusive lists.

Irony at its best. Serebii's page isn't updated or he's going by the inane definition that because their triggers are version exclusive, they must be version exclusive (which I already argued as a ridiculous point above).

Now onto the irony of playing the "Serebii says" game:

Just tested and you can change forms with Reshiram/Zekrom caught in other games. However, it appears when you change the form, the item changes to another item (same name ) which only funtions to seperate so I don't believe you can have both Black & White Kyurem simultaneously

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

._.

They aren't. Because you can get both in Black and White through in-game trade. It's like saying Farfetch'd was never available in Gen I. As you can plainly see, Cottonee isn't being claimed to be unavailable in White by saying they're version exclusives.

Your arguments are very flawed. This isn't similar to version exclusives at all. It's similar to Pokemon like Landorus which need both version exclusives in one game to be obtainable, but is itself, not version exclusive.

 

[PenblooeR]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

They aren't, actually.
Pokémon Black and White Versions - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia

But is that in-game trade also present in B2W2? I haven't played it.

 

[Rocky505]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

They aren't, actually.
Pokémon Black and White Versions - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia

Then why're they on your list

 

[PenblooeR]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

They aren't, actually.
Pokémon Black and White Versions - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia

Then why're they on your list

Because I got that list from somewhere else, and I don't know if that in-game trade is also present in B2W2.

 

[Norman]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

I think by exclusive, it means that you can't catch it in the game. Sure, you can get Black Kyurem in White 2 by trading over a Zekrom and using the item on it and Kyurem, but you can't have a wild encounter with Black Kyurem in White 2. After all, you can still get a Solosis in Black 2 by trading one from White 2 and breeding it, so Solosis is definitely obtainable by some means, but not by catching a wild one.

 

[Rocky505]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

Well if the kyurem formes aren't considered exclusives then neither should petilil and cottenee.

They aren't, actually.
Pokémon Black and White Versions - Bulbapedia, the community-driven Pokémon encyclopedia

Then why're they on your list

Because I got that list from somewhere else, and I don't know if that in-game trade is also present in B2W2.

Yes it still there. Plus it's the only in game trade I know of.

 

[The Outrage]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

I think by exclusive, it means that you can't catch it in the game. Sure, you can get Black Kyurem in White 2 by trading over a Zekrom and using the item on it and Kyurem, but you can't have a wild encounter with Black Kyurem in White 2. After all, you can still get a Solosis in Black 2 by trading one from White 2 and breeding it, so Solosis is definitely obtainable by some means, but not by catching a wild one.

You can't have a wild encounter with White Kyurem in White 2 either--the one you encounter is under Ghetsis' control, and you only catch Kyurem in its original form. Is White Kyurem now unobtainable because you can't catch one in the wild?

On the other hand, both formes are available in-game, unlike Deoxys in Gen III. All you need is to trade the triggers over from another version. In this regard, it is closer to Landorus in BW, and no one is saying Landorus is version exclusive (or unobtainable) because one of the requirements is a version-exclusive Pokemon, because its in both the game.

 

[Joshawott]

Re: Black 2/White 2 Version Exclusives

The in-game trade is in B2W2 as well. Serebii's page notes that, as well as the Regice/Registeel situation.

I think it might be best if instead of there just being "Exclusive to [X]" and "Exclusive to [Y]" columns, there should be another one "Can only be obtained with both versions" (or however else you want to phrase it); thus separating the Pokémon that can simply be obtained by only owning one version, with the ones that can only be obtained by owning both (or knowing someone with the other version).