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Was Munna Meant To Be In Gen I?

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As said by PokeBeach, there is a lass in Rock Tunnel that says 'I would love to hug a pink one with a floral pattern.', so does this mean Munma was meant to be in Gen I, like Shellos was meant to be in Gen III?
 
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It's possible they figured out how to use an early design and finally put it in.
 
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This gives some weight to a theory i disregarded earlier, that of it being a Drowzee prevolution. Originally I didn't believe it, and I still don't but it gives slightly more likelihood to it, as it could have been meant to with Drowzee as part of the pre-evo's but they cut it out due to space, or to make 150, or as they weren't really ready for baby Pokemon at that point. Maybe they dropped the idea, and maybe brought it back but not as a prevolution.
 
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It's speculation at this point, though they could "come out of the closet" similar to how we learned about the Shellos/Gastrodon thing.
 
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Though "pink one with a floral pattern" is a very coincidental description, I think the dialog writers were just looking for that particular lass to describe something as girly as possible. However, it's still very possible that Munma was intended for Gen I, or even that Munma was inspired by that very sentence.

"Dude, I can't think of what colors to give this Pokemon..."
"Hey, Sugamori, remember what that lass said in Rock Tunnel?"
"Remind me."
"Pink with a floral pattern."
"THEN LET IT BE DONE."
 
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When I first saw Munma I thought it looked very similar to the Pokemon that had been made in Gen 1 and 2, similar in style. This is very interesting, the quote the Lass said, and it could be possible that Munma may have been designed in Gen1, but I think the Lass' quote may be coincidental. Or maybe not, it's tough to tell, but it's a cute connection nonetheless.
 
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It really does resemble a generation 1 or 2 pokemon. Something about it's simple, round design.
 
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it does sort of fit,but then compared to drowzee and hypno,it's actually cute
 
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Can't wait to see its evolutions. I have no idea where this thing is going, but I am intrigued. The other pokemon look straight forward and you have some idea what there evos will look like. This one is the most mysterious.
 
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I really think what the lass said was just a coincidence and not to be taken seriously.
 
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I believe there is a stockpile of unused designs that they don't implement until they can completely flesh them out. We just have to wait to see if Munma and its family will prove original enough to justify 15 years of being put on hold.
 
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I believe there is a stockpile of unused designs that they don't implement until they can completely flesh them out.
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They have indeed stated this is the case in repeated interviews.
 
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As I said in the CoroCoro thread:

Jeff said:
That's the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it.

That must mean...

KANTO IS IN THIS GAME AND YOU CAN TRADE IT TO HER FOR THE POKEGODS!!!!!!!

You heard it here first!
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Maybe we won't see Kanto exactly in these games but in this Generation, very likely.

Anyways, back on topic. It's very possible that this pink Pokemon was meant to be in Generation I, but then just before the release, someone said: "I think we should take this one out, I think people will hate it". And yes I know people do not hate it, but Pokemon wasn't famous back then so they had to be very careful which Pokes they put in the game and which not.

Edit: And so, they forgot to change the Lass' text. :P
 
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If it was meant to be in gen 1 how come they waited until now to put it in? Shellos and Gastrodon didnt make it into gen 3 so they included it into gen 4. Was that in R/B/Y or FR/LG. Because if it was the latter maybe it was meant to be a gen 4 pokemon.
 
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I don't buy it. I don't buy it at all. I think this is what's known as a coincidence.

The Gen I Lass' line was, in all likelihood, simply a joke, as there was no such Pokemon. While I'm aware that some designs do cross over generations, the chances of a design from that long ago being dusted off after all this time, and it having been referenced in the game text, and the developers forgetting to take the reference out... just seem very low indeed.
 
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Bikini Miltank said:
I don't buy it. I don't buy it at all. I think this is what's known as a coincidence.

The Gen I Lass' line was, in all likelihood, simply a joke, as there was no such Pokemon. While I'm aware that some designs do cross over generations, the chances of a design from that long ago being dusted off after all this time, and it having been referenced in the game text, and the developers forgetting to take the reference out... just seem very low indeed.
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Why should they have removed the reference at any point? Maybe they had no idea they were even going to use the design until gen V work began. The whole thing seems too specific to me, really.

Also, Zeta, thanks. I remembered reading that somewhere (maybe Pokebeach just recently, but who knows).
 
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Edit: And so, they forgot to change the Lass' text. :P
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Or they simply changed it, because the way the lass says it, she doesn't know if there's a Pokemon out there, and would be nice if there is one.

I think it's entirely possible that they may have had a rough draft of it in Generation 1 but maybe it took so long to give it's final design. Yeah I know 15 or so years and that's the best they could do?

I still wonder what it means for the ghost/grass Gardenia mentioned near the Chateau in Eterna Forest.
 
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Matt3225 said:
If it was meant to be in gen 1 how come they waited until now to put it in? Shellos and Gastrodon didnt make it into gen 3 so they included it into gen 4. Was that in R/B/Y or FR/LG. Because if it was the latter maybe it was meant to be a gen 4 pokemon.
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Well, there are several Pokemon they've intended for certain generations that STILL haven't seen the light of day. :/ Honōguma was meant for gen II, and even though people would have loved it, there still hasn't been any mention of that Pokemon.
 
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Freya- Hono-What? There are unreleased Pokemon? Wow I never knew that, but I am sure one day all the Pokemon might be released
 
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