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I wonder if Legendaries can be considered "special" anymore since most of them are obtainable and there are around 35 of them. (Wtf?)

Do you think there is a need for all the Legendaries they have currently?
 
Let's go and name all the mythological creatures there are in the world.

Though they did go overboard this generation.
 
How so? The number? Because there's areas of the world loaded down with legends--heck, look at Greece. And not all of them have deeper purposes either, so you get things like Heatran.
 
Yes well, I think legendaries have lost their initial charm, back when the 1st gen was still around. There was only Mewtwo/Mew back then.
It's grown quite a lot though, and because of wi-fi everyone has most legendaries, that's what I mean.

But on the good side, you have plenty of interesting plot lines regarding all those legendaries.
 
Yeah, but atleast back with kanto and johto, it was this super awesome treat to see a legendary that was almost unheard of. Now it's more like 'ooh look at the really big and powerful pokemon fight...scary.' and they leave it at that, diminsishing the status of what legendary once was.
 
Nomura said:
Yeah, but atleast back with kanto and johto, it was this super awesome treat to see a legendary that was almost unheard of. Now it's more like 'ooh look at the really big and powerful pokemon fight...scary.' and they leave it at that, diminsishing the status of what legendary once was.
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But that had more to do with the fact that the games were new, the community was small and information didn't spread as fast. Now, days before the games are even released, all of the Pokemon are out in the open. There's no more hunting them down in the games. It's not the fault of the makers of the game, it's the fault of the information hounds.
 
GrnMarvl13 said:
But that had more to do with the fact that the games were new, the community was small and information didn't spread as fast. Now, days before the games are even released, all of the Pokemon are out in the open. There's no more hunting them down in the games. It's not the fault of the makers of the game, it's the fault of the information hounds.
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Even in the original games, everyone new where to go and get the legendaries. I'm more so reffering to how in the series the legendaries were played out to be these magnificient and all powerful creatures, that the greatest gift was to merely see one. Since the latter part of johto, it's been all about actually capturing these pokemon, makeing them seem just like any normal pokemon. This in turn diminished their legendary status, and with them all being played out as just another pokemon to be captured and not these magnificient beings to be feared and worshipped, is it really idealistic or proper to continuously make so many?
 
Since when was Kanto and Johto not about catching legendaries either? How is it more about catching them in Hoenn and Sinnoh? Crystal actually has Eusine, an ingame character who is not a villain trying to catch one, and challenging you to catch the beasts aswell. I mean atleast post generation II they actually come up with ingame legends for them outside the Pokedex. No one really told you to catch any of them, just to defeat them. I mean in Kanto, you weren't even really aware that those Pokemon existed unless you went out and searched for them.
 
Nomura said:
Even in the original games, everyone new where to go and get the legendaries. I'm more so reffering to how in the series the legendaries were played out to be these magnificient and all powerful creatures, that the greatest gift was to merely see one. Since the latter part of johto, it's been all about actually capturing these pokemon, makeing them seem just like any normal pokemon. This in turn diminished their legendary status, and with them all being played out as just another pokemon to be captured and not these magnificient beings to be feared and worshipped, is it really idealistic or proper to continuously make so many?
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I haven't noticed ANY change. If anything, they were MORE common in the Kanto and Johto areas of the anime. Articuno popped up. Lugia had its own arc. Suicune. Raikou had his own special. Mewtwo popped up and lead to the first movie.

In Hoenn and Sinnoh we've seen...what? The Groudon/Kyogre arc. The Palkia/Dialga arc. Mesprit. And I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple (didn't one of the Frontier Brains use the Regis in the anime?).

And, of course, this doesn't even take the movies into account. And, really, it's just off the top of my head.
 
at least legendaries can stick to their one-per-game status and are harder to obtain multiples of than any regular Pokemon (anyone remember Huntail and Sakurabyss from last gen?).
 
*sigh* Didn't we go over this already? I swear that the fandom is getting crazier by the minute, we are already repeating topics.


Nomura said:
Yeah, but atleast back with kanto and johto, it was this super awesome treat to see a legendary that was almost unheard of. Now it's more like 'ooh look at the really big and powerful pokemon fight...scary.' and they leave it at that, diminsishing the status of what legendary once was.
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That's because you've played to many pokemon games. If you were just starting out, you would have been just as excited to battle Palika like you were to battling Mewtwo in you RBG version. You are just to used to them.
 
GrnMarvl13 said:
I haven't noticed ANY change. If anything, they were MORE common in the Kanto and Johto areas of the anime. Articuno popped up. Lugia had its own arc. Suicune. Raikou had his own special. Mewtwo popped up and lead to the first movie.

In Hoenn and Sinnoh we've seen...what? The Groudon/Kyogre arc. The Palkia/Dialga arc. Mesprit. And I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple (didn't one of the Frontier Brains use the Regis in the anime?).

And, of course, this doesn't even take the movies into account. And, really, it's just off the top of my head.
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Maybe I'm just bad at makeing my point, but I want to thank you for maeking it for me.

That frontier brain who had the 3 regis. The aqua dude who controlled kyogre(in a sense) and pika who controlled groudon. The scientist who controlled that lugia for like 10 seconds back in johto. These things diminish their legendary status and make them seem like common pookemon. I mean, at least when mewto found out what was goind on he completely owned and got away from gio, and the dude in crystal completely failed there and in the anime, makeing suicune look like it was truly legendary and untouchable. Even in the 2000 film, the dude came close to capturing, but they busted out and he was owned.

BTW, it's different in the games now days. You not only get the masterball, but you get all these are uber balls that make capture way fing easier than it should be.
 
Honest, before Gn IV had Arceus, I always believed Mew to be the first pokemon because it could transform into any pokemon and use every pokemon move.

and @Outrage DD
Let's go and name all the mythological creatures there are in the world
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The pokemon world we have 4 regions in main games and series at moment that re based of real world Japan regions, now there are a lot of legendary pokemon in this large region, are there that many in the real world Japan? And why does a legend in pokemon have to have a pokemon attached to it? I know in the real world many legend stories don't have an animal or creature attached to them, but suppose that would be a bit different in pokemon world.

It seems that every game there are more legends:

Gen 1: 3 birds, Mew and Mewtwo (5)
Gen 2: 3 Roaming beasts, Lugia and Ho-Oh and Celebi (6)
Gen 3: 3 Regis, Goudron, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Latias and Latios, Jirichi and Deoxys (10)
Gen 4: Palkia, Digala, Heatran, Darkrai, 3 lake trio, Arceus, Shaymin and Regigagas, Girintia, Cresselia, Manaphy and Phione (12)

total = 34 (I think)

It seems with each Gen there are more legendaries added and supassing the number in the previous gen.

Suppose that Sinnoh was the birthplace of space time and pokemon, it was right to have so many legendaries there and Girintia because its from another world and that should count.

I think they should hold back, but not exactly stop the legendary pokemon if they want to add more and because there is always more legendaries in next gen than previous so far, we do not need to many in next gen, I mean, we do now have every basic legend now used as far as I can guess (dark and light, land and sea, God (arceus), Space and Time etc...)
 
I, for one, like Legendary Pokémon and the stories that go behind them. Perhaps they just cater to a different type of fan.
 
Nomura said:
Maybe I'm just bad at makeing my point, but I want to thank you for maeking it for me.

That frontier brain who had the 3 regis. The aqua dude who controlled kyogre(in a sense) and pika who controlled groudon. The scientist who controlled that lugia for like 10 seconds back in johto. These things diminish their legendary status and make them seem like common pookemon. I mean, at least when mewto found out what was goind on he completely owned and got away from gio, and the dude in crystal completely failed there and in the anime, makeing suicune look like it was truly legendary and untouchable. Even in the 2000 film, the dude came close to capturing, but they busted out and he was owned.
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The Kyogre and Groudon thing were tied into their legend. And the Regis were always sort of "meh" in terms of how the games treated them. And, keep in mind, Mew was held by Team Rocket long enough to be cloned. And they had control of Mewtwo for quite a bit. The legendary birds were captured by...whatsisname for a fairly large portion of whatever movie that was. And I seem to remember Celebi being captured.

BTW, it's different in the games now days. You not only get the masterball, but you get all these are uber balls that make capture way fing easier than it should be.
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Not THAT much easier. Double the chance isn't much when the things have such low capture rates. It's not like each game introduces more Master Balls, or Master Ball equivalents. And, keep in mind, GSC were the first to introduce speciality balls.
 
While it is rare, you can get more Master Balls through the Lottery.

Anyway, if a Legendary could not be captured, what would be the point in having it?
 
GrnMarvl13 said:
And, keep in mind, Mew was held by Team Rocket long enough to be cloned.
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Technically, no. Mewtwo was cloned from the DNA of a Mew FOSSIL. I don't think Team Rocket has had control of Mew at any point in Pokemon canon (anime, games, or manga.)

Though that would be awesome.
 
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