What Did You Think Of XY Team Rocket?

What Did You Think Of Team Rocket?

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Since we're at the climax of XY, I think it would be a good time to ask what you guys thought of Team Rocket this series. Discuss below.
 
It's the TR that everyone knows, there is little more I can say than that. They have two standout moments to me: One was a giant shock to me. Jessie can actually be a decent person outside of contests? I never knew... The other was the Pokeball factory episode, in which they unleash the most effective plot they've had since Nimbasa, and very nearly capture everyone's pokemon just by taking their balls. What's more, they have control of Pikachu's pokeball, and the only thing preventing their total victory is it dodging all of their attempts to return it. An epic battle for the ages ensues.
 
They're pretty much the same as they've always been, outside of a good chunk of the BW series.
 
It's been an interesting ride for Team Rocket this series. We've had what feels like a compromise between their goofy and serious selves here.

Sometimes they've been the same old story, sometimes they've been vile (manipulating that Florges and stealing that water she needed for her sick Floette), sometimes they've been crafty (Poké Ball Factory plot), sometimes they've been downright sympathetic and not the least bit evil (Jessie and James trying to release Wobbuffet and Inkay). Then there's Jessie and Showcases, this path is perfect for her when you look at it on paper. And who can forget them reporting on the Flare crisis even after discarding their Lumiose TV crew disguises? That was awesome.

I must say that I'll probably remember the wetlands plot most when I think of the trio in XY because, again, that was cruel.
 
They were almost perfect. Unlike the Da! arc they actually had their personalities and backstories back instead of being just goofy, they had some of their most creative plots yet (Fake!Ash, Pokeball Factory), had a good interaction with the regional villain team, actual character episodes, a fun character song, and the best motto music to date.The only thing I would have liked from them is to have had a long-running arc of their own and maybe more impact on the Flare plot.
 
I thought they were definitely better than in BW, and they had some good character episodes where their personalities could really shine. Plus with the superior animation a lot of the time, they LOOKED great! As a TRio fan, the XY series as a whole was pretty satisfying. Kojiro had his lovely moments in the Malamar episodes, and we also got to see some of his classic nerdiness in XY85 when Tairenar is looking for a new stick, but also his cool side in XY124 (the Mechanical Festival one). Musashi killed it in the contest episodes, plus she was great in XY63 (Musashi & Sonansu) and XY82 (Bakeccha evolving). As for Nyasu, his were some of my favorites, like XY79 (Pokeball factory) and XY71 (getting lost with Eureka). I kinda liked XY98 too (the Puni-chan dream episode), even though the animation was poop.
Add to that the fact that we got a new song for the TRio and Nyasu, and yeah, I'm happy. ;) Hope we continue to get some good ones with them in Sun & Moon.
 
They were the best they've been since the OS! :D

They walked that fine line between "comical" and "threatening" like they were supposed to. They planned, they used both gadgets and their Pokemon, they put up a fight, they had ambition besides catching Pikachu or those stupid fantasies, they went after Legendaries, tried stealing valuable items, attacked public events and tried to steal Pokémon from game characters, including the Champ of all people.

It looks like they may go back to being bungling idiots in SM--though hopefully not as bad as they were in DP--but here they almost perfect :love:
 
Dude your polling options are worse here than ever before!

Obviously I have an opinion to give on this subject but I need a little time to reflect on our experiences in the last 3 years. I will be back...
 
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Dude your polling options are worse here than ever before!

Obviously I have an opinion to give on this subject but I need a little time to reflect on our experiences in the last 3 years. I will be back...
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I wanted to at least make some negative options to not sound biased.
 
The best Team Rocket moments in XY:

- All their disguises, (for wobbuffet and inkay too)
- The hairstyles of Jessie,
- The ponytail of James,
- The casual outfits of Jessie and James,
- Their bond with their pokémon,
- The personnality development of Inkay and Gourgeist,
- The rocketshipping scenes,
- The episodes dedicated to Jessie and James (XY 54 about inkay and James and XY 63 about the crush of Jessie for the doctor White)
- The episode Team Rocket vs Team Plasma for James protecting Z-2,
- The participation of Jessie at the Tripokalon,
- James acting like the best fan of Jessie,
- The flashback of Kojiro and the mention of his bottlecaps collection
- The return of the "Diva" side of Jessie and the hyperemotionality of James,
- Their songs (The Nyarth ballad and Roketto Dan Danka),
- The fanservice (like the reference of the pain inflicted by the thunderbolt of Pikachu to the Kojiro tailbone in the V.O)

My biggest regret was the stock image reused for the animation of the motto... :( and I want to see them in ALL the episodes without exception.
 
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I think they went back to being too repetitive like in prior gens and a lot of the time they're just there and taking up screen time.
 
They should've stayed as their BW selves. That analysis Lysandre-fan linked is spot-on, as are the ones linked within

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They started out quite mediocre. At the beggining they were a watered down version of their Johto selves, having good schemes and a lot of impact in the plot, but their family aspect was almost never covered.

Things finally changed in the 50s-70s, as they finally got episodes for themselves and more of their personality began to show, their schemes also got more creative. Sadly, XY69-70 came and showed them as terrible mercenaries who make plans 16 weeks ahead of time, ruining most of their good aspects of this era.

They regressed to their early XY selves in the 80s, but in XYZ they seem to be back on track for the most part. Their traits from previous series are showcased more often, and have the decent amount of focus. Their family aspect hasn't fully returned, but that might get solved in upcoming episodes due to extra time the writers have and their sucess on the TF climax.
 
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It bothers me when people act like they weren't goofy in Kanto and when they use their funny/exaggerated faces to imply they're somehow out of character now. I mean like

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That's from about midway through Kanto and I know if they did that in XY everyone would have lost their shit at how "useless" TR supposedly is now. They were literally pure comedic relief as early as EP004. They didn't contribute to the plot in EP005. The main conflict of EP009 had nothing to do with them and they appeared for about 1 minute at the end and were blasted off with no battle. They had a ridiculous disguise in EP015. If people don't like Team Rocket it's absolutely fine, there are valid complaints about their character and there are absolutely places they can be improved. And yes they are characterized somewhat differently now compared to Kanto, that's what happens when you have a show running this long. But it's been almost 20 years, can we stop acting like Kanto Team Rocket was this super serious, super badass, super competent force to be reckoned with? And that XY Team Rocket does nothing but make stupid faces?
 
Nicolas721 said:
Their family aspect hasn't fully returned
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Well to be perfectly fair Satoshi's mom's been completely MIA in this series and I think Orchid-Hakase's only gotten a single passing mention in the last three years or so. It's not like the Rocket trio's the only one suffering from XY's weird "nothing existed before Kalos" thing it's got going on.
 
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