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What moves should the Pokemon learn/forget?

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The moves chosen for the Pokemon in the anime are different to what they would be in the games, it the anime, rather then giving them all powerful attacks or balanced movesets, they like to give each Pokemon moves that all look different,

For example, Pikachu
-ThunderBolt, quite unique in the way it looks, sort of a beam but then engulphs the whole target.
-Quick Attack, simply charges into the opponent
-Iron Tail, whacks the opponent, uses tail
-Electro Ball, a single and large projectile

Roggenrola
-Flash Cannon, a straights beam
-Stone Edge, multiple none linear projectiles
-Sandstorm, a wind like attack

Excadrill
-Dig, unique in itself
-Drill Run, charging into the opponet
-Metal Claw, slashs the opponet, uses hands
-Focus blast, single projectile

With this in mind, what sought of movesets should the Pokemon end up with? Personally I think Pikach shoud have stayed the same, though I understand why they changed it, volt tackle was the same as quick attack, where as Electro ball was different.
 
I think elec ball is lame and boring also it is not that powerful. I think Pikachu should ditch both electric moves he has in favor of thunder and volt tackle.
 
I was convinced, convinced that Pikachu would get rid of Thunderbolt for Electro Ball... but no, instead we lost Volt Tackle. Seriously, now Pikachu has two special Electric moves, instead of having one speciaL and one physical which would have given him variety. Guess the writers got sick of the whole 'recoil' issue since we hardly ever saw Pikachu actually get affected by it (in fact, the second Shinji battle is the only time I remember seeing Pikachu actually affected by it).
 
Actually in the anime it isn't so much different-looking moves that make up a moveset, but (at least it seems like) they're chosen in such a way as to give the Pokemon at least one close-range and one long-range attack. That doesn't matter nearly as much in the games as it does in the more "realistic" style of the anime for obvious reasons.

As for my prediction, I can see Tepig evolving and immediately learning Arm Thrust.
 
What movesets should the Pokemon end up with?
I ask this. Please, writers, please let Oshawott and Snivy get rid of Water Gun and Vine Whip before the League. I just wish that the anime would acknowledge for once that those moves suck.
 
I never understood why they suddenly gave axxew that evolution line's strongest attack so quickly... They could have used duel chops or something...

Pikachu's volt tackle was its signature move I was disappointed that they got rid of it in favour of a not so amazing electro ball.
 
Tsutarja and Emonga should without a doubt forget Attract. Emonga should learn Acrobatics.
 
I said this before and I still stand by it: Stunfisk should learn Attract. She can't keep her good looks forever.
 
I don't care what they do with Electro Ball, but Pikachu needs to get Volt Tackle back.

I can see Oshawott learning Swords Dance once its fully evolved, as well as Hydro Canon.

I can see Tepig learning Arm Thrust, Flame Charge and Flare Blitz. (Once its fully evolved of course)

I can see Snivy learning Leaf Tornado.

To be honest though I only see Oshawott fully evolving, but I suppose if the writers do a Champion League the others might evolve as well.
 
I don't get the reason the four move limit is in the anime in the first place, it has never really been explained how a supposedly quite intelligent Pokemon can entirely forget how to do something just because it has learnt to do something new. The limitation makes sense in the games to make things more difficult tactically, but the anime is the 'real world' for Pokemon, so a game mechanic shouldn't all of a sudden be a limitation on battling.

Considering how the anime hasn't really fixed itself with regards to moves that hit/miss - I mean how often do you see swift miss in the Anime, yet when Pikachu knew Thunder it seemed to have no difference in accuracy to Thunderbolt - why would the movesets given to Pokemon with the new Anime limitation not simply be the most powerful ones. Again, considering it is 'real life', wouldn't Pikachu be able to respond to 'do a max power thunderbolt' command and essentially do Thunder? Or 'run while doing thunderbolt' and do Volt Tackle? If so, why would the movesets be limited when it isn't logical to do so - for all the things to copy the games on, four moves is stupid.

To answer the main question - electro ball has to go, we saw enough with Turtwig's Energy Ball to get the concept of a slightly powerful ball of energy, no need to ruin Pikachu's main attack (Volt Tackle) to show it off. Make Emolga learn it if the animators want to show it off.

Also, I *hate* the use of Attract. Especially while Ash's special ability seems to be Oblivious.
 
I don't get the reason the four move limit is in the anime in the first place, it has never really been explained how a supposedly quite intelligent Pokemon can entirely forget how to do something just because it has learnt to do something new. The limitation makes sense in the games to make things more difficult tactically, but the anime is the 'real world' for Pokemon, so a game mechanic shouldn't all of a sudden be a limitation on battling.

"Every time I learn something new it pushes some old stuff out of my brain." - Homer Simpson


I agree that Attract's been overused this Gen, but the writers seem to have developed a genuine fondness for gender disclosure, so if Emolga learns a new move I can see Hidden Power being first on the chopping block.
 
I can see Tepig learning Arm Thrust, Flame Charge and Flare Blitz. (Once its fully evolved of course)

I can see Snivy learning Leaf Tornado.
Tepig already knows Flame Charge. Snivy learning Leaf Tornado would be rather pointless since not only does it already know Leaf Storm, but it already knows three Grass-type moves. I think Mirror Coat could work, it would be good variety. Same with Glare. If it evolves, Wrap has its uses in an anime battle. If it fully evolves, I can see it with Dragon Tail.
 
Palpitoad could get Earth Power through breeding. So if we have an ep where Palpitoad goes back in time and interferes with his past, then maybe he could get the move.

Also, I *hate* the use of Attract. Especially while Ash's special ability seems to be Oblivious.

No, we need even more Attract. Attract, Attract on everything! No battle can exist without this move being whored out. Little hearts everywhere!
 
Tepig already knows Flame Charge. Snivy learning Leaf Tornado would be rather pointless since not only does it already know Leaf Storm, but it already knows three Grass-type moves. I think Mirror Coat could work, it would be good variety. Same with Glare. If it evolves, Wrap has its uses in an anime battle. If it fully evolves, I can see it with Dragon Tail.

Tepig knows Flame Charge? Ah, well I stand by Arm Thrust and Flare Blitz. As for Leaf Tornado, you never know with the anime. There was a point way back when that Pikachu knew Thunderbolt and Thundershock, then started using Thunder. And if they write it so that the 2 attacks are noticeabley different with a stronger or weaker effect I could see it happening. But yeah, if Snivy fully evolves I think Wrap and Dragon Tail are a must.
 
Tackle should be forgotten for Mijumaru, Pokabu and Kurumayu in my opinion. There's just no need for it to be on any of these Pokémon as quite frankly, it's a low base power Normal type move that everyone and their mother encounters in the games at some point. It just doesn't need to be advertised.
 
Tackle should be forgotten for Mijumaru, Pokabu and Kurumayu in my opinion. There's just no need for it to be on any of these Pokémon as quite frankly, it's a low base power Normal type move that everyone and their mother encounters in the games at some point. It just doesn't need to be advertised.

This, just... this. Also, I'm on Team "Forget Attract".

Pikachu is fine as is. Volt Tackle was so Gen IV and Thunderbolt is his signature move so I'm cool with the changes.

Pokabu needs to drop Tackle and Ember. Head Smash/Rollout and a fighting move (should it evolve) would be more interesting.

Tsutarja's Leaf Storm and Leaf Blade are definitely keepers. I would looooooove to see her learn Mirror Coat and maybe something like... Wring Out, Slam or Aerial Ace to complete the moveset.

Mijumaru's Razor Shell and Aqua Jet are keepers. I can see Water Gun being replaced with Hydro Pump down the line. I'd love the swords theme to be explored with Miju so something like Air Slash or Night Slash could round up the set.

Zuruggu's Headbutt is his signature and Hi Jump Kick is pretty much safe to stay. I'd like him to learn a Dark type move, maybe Snarl to replace Leer, and Dragon Claw.

I don't really care enough about the rest ;)
 
I think volt tackle replacing Tunder was justified because they were both powerful attacks used as finishers, however Electro ball is also used as a finisher and is made to look as powerful as Thunder or Volt tackle when in reality it is not that good of a move.

I agree that Tepig should learn Arm thrust upon evolution, it makes sense that the move would come naturally, however I was hoping Tepig would not learn flamethrover and be his first fire type not to use the move, just seems cliche
 
Yes, please no more Tackle for anybody. I'm also hoping Pansage forgets Dig after a while since many others already know it. Mijumaru will hopefully forget Water Gun after a while since we've seen it used hundreds of times. Tranquill doesn't need Quick Attack forever, either, though I think it'll get stuck with it.
 
The Rocket-Dan's pokemon need to learn new moves. So far, Koromori only seems to know Gust and Air Slash, and Deathmas only knows Shadow Ball and Night Shade (and Haze, that one time), and that really limits what they're able to do in battles. I know the Rocket trio doesn't really participate in pokemon battles much anymore, but it would still be nice if their pokemon had larger movesets.

I would give Koromori Heart Stamp (because of how it's one of like three species that can learn the move) and Future Sight. For Deathmas, I'm thinking Protect (maybe utilizing its mask like it did in that fishing episode?) and either Will-O-Wisp (to inflict burns) or Mean Look.
 
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