What Should have been with Charizard

[Dragon Master]

If this has been done, i apologize, didnt see it when i was looking.

Topic of this thread is Charizard and what I feel Game Freak should have done with it instead of what they have done.

I know all the deal about Charizard, people either love him, hate him or dont mind him. I personally have loved Charizard since I became a fan of Pokemon a good 19-20 years ago. But i get why people dont like him; overused, over commercialized, given two megas over all else, etc.

With the introduction of Gen 7, we were introduced to a whole new form of Pokemon; Alola forms and while there is only a few, seems that it was a subject going around for awhile and it got me thinking that Game Freak should have given Charizard an Alola Form. (humor me for a second) So they were able to make a 3 headed palm tree; Exeggutor grow 30 FEET taller, give it a tail and change its type from a psychic to a dragon type and yet we had to wait for mega evolution for them to give Charizard a typing that it should have always been. (rant over)

(logical thinking here, or at least i think) I feel that they should have given Charizard an Alola Form to contrast with its 2 Megas and since Alola "awakens types". So 2 types of Charizard, one normal, one Alola, the Alola form would go along with the trend, a slight difference in appearance and given a new type and new ability. A Fire/Dragon type with the Levitate ability. Now the Megas, if the Alola form was real then they could have just made 1 Charizardite instead of two. If the normal Charizard would have held it, it turns into our Mega Charizard Y and then if the Alola form hold it, it evolves into Mega Charizard X.

Yes i agree that it would still have given Charizard a bit of limelight and continue to be a spoiled lil Pokemon, but i guess Charizard has a special place in Game Freaks heart. I mainly thought about this as a way to let Charizard STAY a dragon type instead of it only being temporary in battle.
And if they could have done that for Charizard, i feel they could have done that for others who have been commonly confused or wished to be a different typing like Gyarados, Flygon and others.

Thanks for reading, Happy New Year and keep the burns to a minimum on me haha

 

[Beth Pavell]

Kind of missed the point of the Alola forms, though. Point one: they've all got their own in-universe logic that explains why they have become different form in Alola.

... alright, well, some of those aren't as coherent as others - looking at you, Alolan Diglett. So what's different about the environment of Alola to change Charizard to a Dragon-type?

Point two: they're giving forgotten pokémon a new lease of life. Something which Charizard certainly does not need at this point - it's not regularly forgotten about, it's got plenty of toys to play with.

 

[Esserise]

I think it's false to say that Charizard "should" have been a Dragon type. That'd have been completely and utterly unbalanced in Gen I, and Fire/Flying describes it just as adequately. It's connection to fire is obvious, and it has large wings with which it flies.

So they were able to make a 3 headed palm tree; Exeggutor grow 30 FEET taller, give it a tail and change its type from a psychic to a dragon type and yet we had to wait for mega evolution for them to give Charizard a typing that it should have always been.

Charizard gained access to the Dragon type in the generation where they actively made an effort to nerf the Dragon type (helping to mitigate the original issue of it being unbalanced), and where they introduced their first high-profile "do something new with old designs, largely for fanservice" mechanic. Mega Evolution needed marketable poster boys, and you don't get more marketable than the Kanto Starters (or Pikachu). It was an appropriate time to look at something the fans had been going on and on about for years and say, "Hey, you know what could really sell this?"

Exeggutor being a Dragon type is mostly meant as a joke. Hence it being done pretty much out of the blue. It's supposed to be shocking and random and funny, which is why it's the very first thing featured in the trailer that reveals Alola Forms (which, as it happens, aren't really meant to "fix" anything about pre-existing Pokémon, they're just supposed to give them new, vibrant, tropical appearances to fit the Hawaiian-inspired setting of SM).