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What should the government provide?

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You can break it down to federal, state and local if you wish. You don't have to, but whatever.. Just like to see where people stand.

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Healthcare, unemployment payment, police, fire protection, social security, logical advice, reasonable laws, political liberty. Probably forgot a few.
 
Infinite Sceptile said:
Healthcare, unemployment payment, police, fire protection, social security, logical advice, reasonable laws, political liberty. Probably forgot a few.
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Emergency care, emergency payments, yes, yes, God no, God no, of course, of course.
 
Why do you favor emergency care over healthcare (or preventative medicine)?
 
Barb said:
Why do you favor emergency care over healthcare (or preventative medicine)?
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I shouldn't have to pay for a poor person's health care.

Consider it a combination of selfishness, social darwinism and my love of the libertarian charitable theory.
 
Let's tax the stock market!(joke)
What's wrong with taxing the exorbitant salaries of corporate CEOs?
That would fund universal healthcare without taking any money out of your pocket. Unless you are a CEO.
 
The 'exhorbitant salaries' of CEOs are taxed at a much higher rate than what the average American pays. However, their salaries aren't always in dollars. If memory serves me, most of Disney chief Michael Eisner's multimillion dollar salary was stocks and stock options in his company.
 
They need less than half of what they make.
Nobody really needs a yacht.
 
  • Free education, dependant on having achieved satisfactory results, up to end of high school, with alternative free trade apprenticeship programs for low achievers, and full government tertiary education scholarships in specific fields for the highest achievers.
  • Basic healthcare, including emergency care, vaccination programs, maternity and family planning/abortion clinics.
  • "First Start" and emergency funds, on low interest loans, with significant penalties up to and including jail for defaulting.
  • Some infrastructure and public services, in areas where natural monopolies exist, such as Transport, Water, Electricity, and Telecommunications.
  • Reasonable, sound and logical laws.
  • Social and political liberty.

As far as I'm concerned, Police and Fire services could be filled by private organisations on contract with the government (ie. The government outsources), with the government simply retaining ownership of the basic capital and equipment.

Infinite Sceptile said:
They need less than half of what they make.
Nobody really needs a yacht.
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No one "needs" Game Boy's either. You could make an arguement for computers, seeing as they have some good uses for business, but you don't "need" games for that computer. Hell, if you're willing to do everything by hand, you don't "need" that computer for anything at all. While we're at it, we can roast meat over open campfires, we don't "need" hot plates or stoves. We don't even "need" houses.

How much they "need" is irrelevant. They're entitled to what they earn. A good deal of highly paid CEO's make massive contributions to charity anyway, so I'd be surprised if they even keep half of what they make in most circumstances.
 
Let's see...

Federal
Federal Constitutional Rights
Reasonable Federal Laws
Social Security
Healthcare (50%)
Law Enforcement (FBI, military police, national park rangers)
Funding to bring buildings, parks, etc. built prior to 1990 to Americans with Disabilities Act standards
Education (All education standards, one type of standardized testing for the entire nation, and English courses for non English speaking immigrants)
Libraries
Military
Services for unemployed persons
Services for the disabled - 75% (including assistance with home healthcare needs [hygiene activities, getting up in morning/going to bed at night, help preparing meals/eating] for those who can't walk/stand/do certain things on own; some paralyzed people can care for themselves. This would be funded by getting rid of welfare. Heavy screening of individuals would be done to see that they're eligible.)
Funding for genetic research (stem cells included, of course)
Funding for research on cures for diseases
Assists states with utilities (electric, water, sewer, natural gas [if applicable])

State
Federal & State Constitutional Rights
Reasonable state laws
Law Enforcement (highway patrol, state park rangers)
National Guard
Fire Protection
Healthcare (50%)
Education (school buildings, text books, lunch program)
Public Transportation
Services for the disabled - 25%
Colleges/universities
Assist cities and towns with utilities (electric, water, sewer, natural gas [if applicable])

Local
Utilities (electric, water, sewer, natural gas [if applicable])
Law Enforcement (Police)
Reasonable local laws
Local school boards to enforce federal education standards
 
Juroujin said:
Emergency care, emergency payments, yes, yes, God no, God no, of course, of course.
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Don't you think paying for preventitive care would be cheaper in the long run?
 
ChaosRocket said:
Don't you think paying for preventitive care would be cheaper in the long run?
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Only in some cases, actually. There's no point paying for expensive preventitive treatments for rare diseases. It's the same reason you wouldn't recieve, for example, a vaccination for Yellow Fever, unless you were actually travelling to a country where it's known to be a problem.
 
ChaosRocket said:
Don't you think paying for preventitive care would be cheaper in the long run?
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What would constitute "preventitive care" to you?
 
Barb said:
Preventive medicine includes vaccinations, screening mammograms, as well as various annualized testing (hearing, vision, etc.).
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Vaccinations against communicable diseases seems fine, for the sole reason to prevent the wealthy and tourists from catching a disease from them
 
The government should provide assistance in preventative health care for the uninsured. This would mostly consist of the required vaccines and yearly physicals. It's a lot cheaper to keep a person healthy than it is to cure them when they're sick. Granted it all has to be within reason but an ounce prevention is worth a pound of cure.
 
The government shouldn't cure them when they're sick.

One ounce of my money back is worth a pound of happiness
 
It's always money isn't it. I suppose you would rather have a dollar in your pocket than decent roads, fire protection, police, proper education for the next generation, and a healthy and safe population.

Do you fail to realize that the dollar in your pocket will go with friends to fix the problems caused by it going into your pocket in the first place. Seriously, look at Michigan. Look what happened here when people like you took control. It's not a pretty sight if my drive home this afternoon was any indication.
 
Juroujin said:
The government shouldn't cure them when they're sick.

One ounce of my money back is worth a pound of happiness
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Spending money on prevention and cures keeps people from spreading contagious diseases around. Hope you don't get tuberculosis because the government scrimped on healthcare.
 
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