What time should Generation VI take place?

[UnovaCastaway]

Speculation: When will these games take place along the timeline?

When do you think these games will take place in relation to other games? Before, during, or after which Gen? How many shoutouts to other regions will these games have?

My guess is the year between BW and BW2. They could use it to tie up a few loose threads from BW. The trailers show a bunch of Unova Pokemon. Will this be the region N went to that Looker mentioned?

 

[Lufenium]

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After B/W2 please. I don't want to get story lines mixed up.

I would like to see where N went after B/W, and seeing the Village Of Dragons that Iris mentions in-game would be pretty awesome.

 

[Vyrron]

Re: Speculation: When will these games take place along the timeline?

Ok lets see.

RGB & RSE ---(3 years later)---> GSC & DPPt ---(unknown amount of years later)---> BW ---(2 years later)---> BW2

Personally I'd like to see the Gen VI events occur either at the same time as BW or immediatelly after BW2.

 

[TerraTF]

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I think it occurs in the distant future and all Eevee's evolve via stones

 

[VeggiePopper]

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Not the same timeline loop again. As Kingdom, I want it to take place after BW2, which is probably the case, since a further analysis of the Pokéworld's timeline indicates that the games follow real world dates:

RBY(as well as FRLG) and RSE (since they are contemporaneus with Gen I) - Poké 1996
GSC (HGSS) and DPPt - Poké 1999
BW - Poké 2010
BW2 - Poké 2012

Thus XY - Poké 2013

This makes sense given that in real time, 3 years passed between the relases of Gen I and Gen II, just like in-game (and I use real world dates because it was somehow confirmed that the Pokéworld is like an alternate reality of ours, with the man at Pewter museum mentioning the real world date of man's landing on the moon and that when it happened, color TV's were new. i say it is confirmed because FRLG didn't remove that line).

Then, the fact that in BW the Rocket grunt from Johto has a kid the age of a schoolboy (who are depicted as 8-10 years old), instead of say, a preschooler, implies that it's been around 10 years since HGSS's events, again coinciding with the time that passed in the real world between Gen II's original release and BW's debut; finally, B2W2 happens 2 years after BW, just like in real life they were released 2 years after them.

With this in mind, my guess is that, as usual, the games' placement in the timeline won't be explicitly stated, but will be hinted at, and that if that's the case, such hints will point towards Gen VI taking place one year after B2W2.

 

[Ninja_Oscar]

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Between Gen II/IV and Gen V I hope I dislike the gap between those

 

[SirOni]

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I agree with VeggiePopper.

 

[smalllady]

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Between B/W and B2/W2. Then maybe Gamefreak can redeem themselves from those "sequels," and all the bullshit hand-waving of where N and Hilbert/Hilda went.

Actually, it should be after B2/W2, because in B2/W2's post-game, N talks about setting out on another journey and/or finding Hilbert/Hilda to thank them. Then again, these could just be some vague, throw-away lines that don't mean anything.

 

[GiraFragMich]

Re: Speculation: When will these games take place along the timeline?

Not the same timeline loop again. As Kingdom, I want it to take place after BW2, which is probably the case, since a further analysis of the Pokéworld's timeline indicates that the games follow real world dates:

RBY(as well as FRLG) and RSE (since they are contemporaneus with Gen I) - Poké 1996
GSC (HGSS) and DPPt - Poké 1999
BW - Poké 2010
BW2 - Poké 2012

Thus XY - Poké 2013

This makes sense given that in real time, 3 years passed between the relases of Gen I and Gen II, just like in-game (and I use real world dates because it was somehow confirmed that the Pokéworld is like an alternate reality of ours, with the man at Pewter museum mentioning the real world date of man's landing on the moon and that when it happened, color TV's were new. i say it is confirmed because FRLG didn't remove that line).

Then, the fact that in BW the Rocket grunt from Johto has a kid the age of a schoolboy (who are depicted as 8-10 years old), instead of say, a preschooler, implies that it's been around 10 years since HGSS's events, again coinciding with the time that passed in the real world between Gen II's original release and BW's debut; finally, B2W2 happens 2 years after BW, just like in real life they were released 2 years after them.

With this in mind, my guess is that, as usual, the games' placement in the timeline won't be explicitly stated, but will be hinted at, and that if that's the case, such hints will point towards Gen VI taking place one year after B2W2.

This is perfect. And it somehow makes total sense. Good job.

 

[Glitchipedia]

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I'm with VeggiePopper on this one, at least for right now. But I think it's still much too early to tell for sure at this point; better to wait for more information before setting our hearts on a particular setup.

 

[Midorikawa]

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It may have been about some fake version rumor that was going around, or this can't remember, but apparently the timeline was at the same time as BW2. My guess is that this will happen sometime during the Gen V timeline, or right after, and if we're lucky we may get to see Hilda or Hilbert to find out more about what happened to them.

 

[MissingNo. 1]

Okay we all know how the timeline for the main series goes so far. Generations I/III came first, II/IV came three years later, and now Generation V takes place an unknown amount of time after that (I heard it was 10 years, though). Well, I have this idea for how Generation VI's setting will turn out. What if its time difference between the closest generation in terms of its chronological order is the same as Gen II/IV and V, except that it takes place in the PAST (so that means if BW took place 10 years after D/P/Pt/HG/SS, then Gen VI would take place 10 years before Gen I/III). So that means Gen VI games could set the ground for the previous generations, maybe like it could revolve around how training Pokemon was a new thing back then so the protagonist is one of the first trainers who was set out by a professor to see what Pokemon is all about (so no one knows a lot about Pokemon yet and so it's your job to find out). And you could meet the older characters from previous generations like Oak and Lance, except they're still in their youth and they have yet to become famous. And then there's a villainous team who is the first criminal organization in Pokemon history to utilize Pokemon in a bad way, their purpose being to discover the proper utilization of Pokemon to bring out their full potential since no one really knows how to do that yet. And Pokemon gyms and the Pokemon League is a new thing that is being tested (or it may not even exist yet, meaning there's room for new ideas). As for transferring Pokemon from previous generations to Gen VI, there could be a time machine whose purpose is to help the inventor study what Pokemon would be like in the future to help develop the methods of using Pokemon that would be utilized in generations yet to come (so meaning Generations I-V). Gen V was supposed to be a "fresh new start" (clear that they ditched the idea by the time B2W2 came out). Well, Gen VI could literally be a new start. Aside from ancient history involving legendaries, Pokemon history has still been unclear so Gen VI games could be the tool to clear up any confusions, and plus it is a cool idea (at least in my opinion).

 

[Winterdaze]

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Moved to the Pokemon X and Y forum.

 

[Owain]

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I'd like to see a prequel, but it would require some tweaks here and there in order for it to work, may be one year before GenI/III.

But yeah, I reckon it's just not gonna happen.

 

[MissingNo. 1]

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Moved to the Pokemon X and Y forum.

I already posted it there (no replies though ._.). I posted it again on the Pokemon World forum because it talks about Pokemon canon and I thought it would fit there.

 

[Johnny Boy]

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As much as I'd love to see a prequel, I highly doubt it's gonna happen. It's probably gonna take place a certain number of years after the Unova saga. And another thing, if the Unova games take place 10 years after generations II/IV, then how come Red, Blue, and Whitney still look like teenagers?

 

[Falconwing]

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I think it's probably gonna run alongside or shortly after Gen V. I don't really see why they'd go back and make it a prequel.

 

[MissingNo. 1]

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As much as I'd love to see a prequel, I highly doubt it's gonna happen. It's probably gonna take place a certain number of years after the Unova saga. And another thing, if the Unova games take place 10 years after generations II/IV, then how come Red, Blue, and Whitney still look like teenagers?

Yeah, I too did notice that and that's why I kinda doubt that the time difference between Generations II/IV and V is THAT long. However, notice that the ex-Team Rocket member in Iccurus City has a kid who looks like he's 5-10 years old. It had to take at least a year or two for the grunt and his wife to have met and then propose and get married. And then it would take just a little less than a year for the wife to be pregnant and give birth to her child. I'm gonna assume that the minimum possible age for the kid is five since he could talk (at least from my memory) and assuming a minimum of two years for the grunt and his wife to get married and have a child in the first place, the very minimum time difference between Generations II/IV and V has to be seven years if you think about it. And to be honest, I don't really think a battle sprite of characters is the best indicator of how much they aged. Red and Blue look exactly the same in Generations II/IV as they did in I/III and there was a three year difference between them.

I think it's probably gonna run alongside or shortly after Gen V. I don't really see why they'd go back and make it a prequel.

Eh, this is just very pure speculation on my part. I have absolutely no confidence in that it'll be correct, it's just an idea that I'm throwing out. I'm probably just playing too much Dragon Quest (in each trilogy, the third game is always a prequel). I just thought that it would be too "eh" if the Pokemon timeline just kept on moving forward. It would definitely be too problematic for the manga since it uses original Generation I characters from time to time but if TOO much time elapses, that would no longer be possible if the characters are adults (don't hate on me for saying this, adult characters are doable I guess but just wouldn't be the same, and plus it would kinda ruin the earlier chapters). And I would just like to point out that old characters like Oak are not immortal. If the Pokemon universe goes forward too much, then we wouldn't be seeing much of him anymore for obvious reasons. If there was a prequel, however, then instead of seeing senile Oak we would actually see a youthful Oak who is still a trainer and has yet to become famous, thus he is a rookie just like you. And we could see people like Lance and Cynthia as kids who are also getting started on their adventures (heck, maybe YOU could be older than them and YOU would give them tutorials in Pokemon...wouldn't that be interesting). Like I said, I'm not saying it's gonna be true but if you think about it (and if you're OCD about puzzles and trends like I am) the earlier games (Generations I-IV) would fit in the middle of the Pokemon chronology, Generation V is at the top and Generation VI is at the bottom. So it would go VI-I/III-II/IV-V. Just take some time and think, I'm sure it would come off on you (not trying to force you guys into accepting my theory, you guys have your opinions and I have mine).

 

[Falconwing]

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I've already seen a youthful Oak. My desire to see that has been satisfied. But really, the idea just doesn't sound plausible. It's possible, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. Pokemon likes to be progressive. And just think, if they go back and do a prequel, our character can't have a Wii U in his room.

 

[SirOni]

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As much as I'd love to see a prequel, I highly doubt it's gonna happen. It's probably gonna take place a certain number of years after the Unova saga. And another thing, if the Unova games take place 10 years after generations II/IV, then how come Red, Blue, and Whitney still look like teenagers?

Yeah, I too did notice that and that's why I kinda doubt that the time difference between Generations II/IV and V is THAT long. However, notice that the ex-Team Rocket member in Iccurus City has a kid who looks like he's 5-10 years old. It had to take at least a year or two for the grunt and his wife to have met and then propose and get married. And then it would take just a little less than a year for the wife to be pregnant and give birth to her child. I'm gonna assume that the minimum possible age for the kid is five since he could talk (at least from my memory) and assuming a minimum of two years for the grunt and his wife to get married and have a child in the first place, the very minimum time difference between Generations II/IV and V has to be seven years if you think about it. And to be honest, I don't really think a battle sprite of characters is the best indicator of how much they aged. Red and Blue look exactly the same in Generations II/IV as they did in I/III and there was a three year difference between them.

The appearances of these trainers in the most recent games is most likely non-canon since we only see them in the PWT post-game. Gamefreak probably didn't bother updating these characters so that they wouldn't put themselves in a corner design-wise if they ever want to use them in future games.

I'm going with the year of release theory for the timeline making XY take place a year after BW2.