• Forum Moderator applications are now open! If you're interested in joining an active team of moderators for one of the biggest Pokémon forums on the internet, click here for info.

Where did the belief that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon start?

Where did this belief come from?

  • These people got this belief from Kanto

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • These people didn't watch past the Johto arc

    Votes: 7 30.4%

  • Its a false rumor that got spread because people think Ash is still a weak trainer

    Votes: 5 21.7%

  • I have no clue, I always knew Ash had more evolutions

    Votes: 6 26.1%
  • Total voters
    23
C

Cybersai

Registered User
Joined
Mar 8, 2005
Messages
28,895
Reaction score
225
Seriously, where did this start? Just because in Kanto both Pikachu and Bulbasaur refused to evolve, and Ash's Johto team was wasted potential, doesn't mean Ash is against evolution. Where do people get this idea from?

Take a look at his lineup, its almost all evolved or final stage Pokemon:

1. Pikachu (Middle stage techinically due to Pichu)
2. Bulbasaur - Chose not to evolve
3. Squirtle
4. Charizard - Evolved
5. Kingler - Evolved
6. Muk - Evolved
7. Snorlax - Evolved (Even if Munchlax didn't exist back then)
8. Heracross - Final stage
9. Tauros - Final stage
10. Bayleef - Evolved once
11. Quilava - Evolved once
12. Totodile
13. Noctowl - Evolved form
14. Donphan - Evolved
15. Sceptile - Evolved
16. Swellow - Evolved
17. Corphish
18. Torkoal - Final stage
19. Glalie - Evolved
20. Torterra - Evolved
21. Infernape - Evolved
22. Staraptor - Evolved
23. Gliscor - Evolved
24. Buizel
25. Gible

Of the releases:

26. Butterfree - Evovled
27. Primeape - Evolved
28. Pidgeot - Evovled
29. Lapras - Evolved


Of the 29 Pokemon Ash has owned, not even counting the 4 releases, Ash has owned:

- 21 evolved, middle-stage, or final form Pokemon. It goes up to 25 if you count the 4 he released.

- 6 unevolved.


And of the 6 unevolved, all of them are powerful. Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Corphish and Buizel especially are all powerhouses despite never evolved. Totodile is technically the only weaker one that should have evolved, and Gible was a new capture so its not a big deal just yet.

He owns 21 evolved Pokemon and only 6 that didn't, and even those 6 are damn powerful. I think its great honestly how Ash battles with Pokemon that are of all 3 stages.
 
Last edited:
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

One of his unevolved Pokémon is his, show's and whole franchise's mascot. Rest of his unevolved Pokémon get a good amount of screentime, some more so than his evolved ones.

And some of Ash's Pokémon can not evolve further or middle stage. Middle stages counts as unevolved for most people. And some of them are caught evolved. So the point still stands on. He himself doesn't evolve much of his Pokémon. He only evolved 7 of his Pokémon that can evolve himself.

Also, is this your first complaining about complaining thread?
 
Last edited:
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Who cares...?
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Trainer Yusuf said:
One of his unevolved Pokémon is his, show's and whole franchise's mascot. Rest of his unevolved Pokémon get a good amount of screentime, some more so than his evolved ones.
Click to expand...

This is where I think the belief started from. Since Pikachu refused to evolve, people think Ash is against evolution.

When Bulbasaur denied to evolve too, it seemed to further push this theory.

Yet, after that, that never happened again. Why are people basing this on two pokemon?
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

I don't know where you are getting this from Scott, care to elaborate?
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Iteru said:
I don't know where you are getting this from Scott, care to elaborate?
Click to expand...

People have always stated that Ash, "never evolves his Pokemon" or, "releases half his Pokemon."

I never understood where this belief came from.
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Nope. Most of Ash's teams consist of evo's, except for Johto, which is being made up for now.

I am still somewhat hoping Totodile evolves, but it may not happen.
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Gliscor'd said:
Nope. Most of Ash's teams consist of evo's, except for Johto, which is being made up for now.

I am still somewhat hoping Totodile evolves, but it may not happen.
Click to expand...

I looked backed upon episode threads and noticed that you complained that it didn't look like Chimchar would evolve, or Turtwig.

Surely you can answer the question yourself?
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Iteru said:
I looked backed upon episode threads and noticed that you complained that it didn't look like Chimchar would evolve, or Turtwig.
Click to expand...

The lateness of the evo's was surprising, as Treecko evolved only 65 eps into Hoenn, and I thought the same thing would happen here.

Chimchar always should have evolved earlier, honestly. Giving Monferno only 10 eps of screentime or whatever it was, wasn't a good idea.
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Anyone that still thinks this is either stupid or misinformed. It's best not to listen to anybody that stopped watching in Johto.
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Scott, pray tell, how exactly did Lapras evolve?
 
Re: Where do people get the idea that Ash doesn't evolve his Pokemon?

Ampharos King said:
Scott, pray tell, how exactly did Lapras evolve?
Click to expand...

Oops, I meant to say, "final stage."

Like how Tauros, Torkoal and Snorlax (back then), had no evo's.
 
Usually it's people who stopped watching back in the orginal series who complain about the Pokemon not evolving and then complain how the new episodes are crap. -_-
 
I never knew, either. But it's just a general lack of knowledge on my part.
 
I think the rumors comes from not to frequent viewers, filled with a more gaming mindset rather than a story telling view, who used to watch the first seasons, got a little pissed over Ash's early releases of highly evoloved and powered pokemon and his loses at the Johto and Kanto pokemon leauge.
Feeling like the anime didn't go anywhere, they stopped following, continued playing the games, When nothing else was on they watched the show now and then, with Ash in a new region with new unevolved pokemon, and seeing Pikachu almost get his a** kicked by a bird.
I think it's a mix of the nostalgic critique and the reset they make each region.

I'm glad as heck that I watched the later seasons and saw that Ash actually seems to climb in rank each league, if I'm following a series, I want to see a over all progress, which I used to think the writers did not know how to do.
I'm happy to say I was wrong.
 
Well, I voted for Kanto, but meant to vote for Johto, damn mouse :P. In Kanto, only 4 Pokemon evolved under his care, Charmander, Caterpie, Krabby & Pidgeotto. I don't count Mankey to Primeape since it didn't evolve under his care and training. I don't count Snorlax, since at the time the episode aired, it was believe that Snorlax had no evo. While Johto was lackluster in evolutions, with two of them taking place outside of Johto, those Pokemon still evolved, and he really wasn't crazy about catching Pokemon back then. Though I think that belief did originate from how people expect Johto to be a retread of Kanto, and that Johto is technically a continuation of original series in episode count, and Ash's old clothing as well.

Kind of glad that Advance Generations and DP fixed that, and I do hope that Best Wishes keeps that up as well.
 
Please note: The thread is from 16 years ago.
Please take the age of this thread into consideration in writing your reply. Depending on what exactly you wanted to say, you may want to consider if it would be better to post a new thread instead.
Back
Top Bottom