Where in Johto do you think Greenfield from the 3rd movie would have fit?

[Serge165]

I just got to thinking, even if Greenfield was only created for the purpose of the 3rd movie, it seems to fit into Johto quite nicely. my question is, Where would it have been. As posted in my theories Section, I once thought Greenfield was the glitch town LOL.

I want to hear what everyone thinks, if possible

 

[FabuVinny]

The same place as all filler towns: Some random place between places we know from the games.

 

[Roses Ablaze]

I seem to recall someone finding a map of where all the movie locations were (Latios of SPPf, maybe?). I can't remember where greenfield was, though...

 

[Serge165]

I seem to recall someone finding a map of where all the movie locations were (Latios of SPPf, maybe?). I can't remember where greenfield was, though...

Hmm, thanks, I think I may run that by him, he could still have the map

The same place as all filler towns: Some random place between places we know from the games.

I did however, hear that as far as episodes go, it is located between some town and the place where they first met Casey

Don't double post. ~Roses Ablaze

 

[Roses Ablaze]

Hmm, thanks, I think I may run that by him, he could still have the map

I'm not entirely sure it's him, though. It may be someone else.

 

[Serge165]

I see, thanks

 

[ImJessieTR]

On Serebii.net's bulleted summary of the Johto saga, Ash battles Molly's Entei before winning against the Goldenrod Gym. So, Greenfield would probably be a suburb of such an upscale city like that. It would have to be at least in southern Johto, as it's the greenest area of the Johto map. Also, it can't be near the ruins of alph, or Hale wouldn't have to gone on such long trips to be there, although it could possibly be maybe just a couple days' drive from there.

 

[Serge165]

Goldenrod... lets see, and the Ruins of Alf are between something and Azalea town...

 

[Fig]

The ruins in the third movie are NOT the ruines of Alph.

The Ruins of Alph appeared in Fossil Fools (japanesse title : Fossil Pokémon Park! Ruins of Alph!!). That's absolutely certain, because of the already-mentioned title.

Since the ruins in Fossil Fools looked nothing like those in spell of the Unown, the ruins in the third movie were NOT the ruins of Alph.

 

[ImJessieTR]

But in the games, weren't there multiple ways to get in? So the Ruins of Alph Ash&co visited (never saw that ep) aren't the same as the ruins that look like Herod's temple in Israel. So what? Hale's ruins could have another entryway into the unown.

 

[Fig]

The ruins of Alph in the anime was located in a mountainous canyons, near a volcano. The ruins in the movie were located amidst desert ruins.

Them being even in the same region is highly unlikely, if not outright impossible.

In addition, given the estimated size of Johto, there's simply no way travel to the ruins of Alph from anywhere near Goldenrod/Azalea/Violet would take more than a few hours.

Don't let yourself be taken in by the time it took *ash* to journey through the region - armies walking along roads are not expected to advance much further than 15 miles a *day*, and, given all the "getting lost", pokémon catching, trainer battling, etc that Ash is known to do, he probably isn't much faster.

A good car is probably fifty time as fast. Chances are with a car you could go from one end of Kanto to the other before Ash even reach Viridian City.

 

[ImJessieTR]

I think, though, that the games distort the sizes and distances of places. It feels like a Cliff's Notes version of a real land. Do you think Littleroot could get by on just two houses and a lab? No. A town can't survive on the basis of two trainers who are almost never there after the beginning. And I seem to recall Hale's ruins being on the edge of a large canyon at the edge of a desert. You only see it from particular angles and distances, so it's still possible that Hale's ruins could be on the other side of a gorge or something, where mountains are on one side and desert is on the other.

 

[FabuVinny]

Littleroot town has a port in the anime. It also has a lot more houses.

Obviously, the anime is going to look more realistic than the games.

 

[Fig]

Of course. But Kanto/Johto/Hoenn are most certainly NOT continent-sized, even in the anime.

Consider, again, the figure I just quoted - roman legions were expected to cover 15 miles a day walking on foot. Granted, they had to stop early to set up camp, etc, but then again, Ash is going to go on random pokémon-catching tangent every five seconds.

So let's say 20 miles a day. Even given about 350 days walking in a year (and that's VERY generous), that means 7000 KM walking total in a year.

If Kanto was, say, about US-sized, Pallet to Pewter *alone* would be roughly similar to San Diego to Seattle - 1200 miles. Seattle to Chicago might correspond roughly to Pewter-Cerulean in distance. That's 1700 miles. give or take a few. We're barely to Cerulean, and already nearly midway through a year.

Ash went from Viridian, to Pewter, to Cerulean, to Vermillion, to Lavender, to Saffron, to Celadon, to Fuschia, to Cinnabar, back to Cerulean, to Viridian in the space of a year. There's NO WAY he could ever have covered that if Kanto was America-sized.

Considering everything, Kanto is about the size of *GASP* - the real world Kanto, that is, the Tokyo region, which is comparable in size to, say, northern Italy, or Massachussets+Connecticut, or thereabout.