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Who Dominated the Video Game Industry this Year?

Who dominated the video game industry this year?

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I know I'll probably get a lot of biased answers, but I want to know how everyone feels.

I feel that Nintendo is going to come out on top this year. The Wii and DS have a great library of games that utilize technology that, in my opinion, will revolutionize the gaming industry. The Wii and DS also have great first-party games, such as Wario Ware: Smooth Moves, Wii Sports (although it came out last year, it's still going strong even today), Wii Play, Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Battle Revolution, Super Paper Mario, Brain Age 2, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, and, of course, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Super Mario Galaxy. There are also fantastic third-party games such as the Phoenix Wright series, the Trauma Center series, Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga for you Star Wars fans, and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games. And don't forget that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will be coming out early next year, which will boost Wii sales for the holidays.

Microsoft, eh, I'm not sure. I don't know too much about it really, except about the most overrated game ever, Halo 3. It wasn't even on the top games list for long. It was quickly beat out by Phantom Hourglass.

Let's be frank here, Sony screwed up. They put too much unnecessary crap into their beloved PS3, and both the PS3 and PSP have an embarrassingly poor library, consisting mostly of multi-platforms and ports, most of which work terribly on the PS3/PSP, such as The Orange Box. Sony's arrogance from their previous years of domination has done them in. Unless Sony has an ultimate secret weapon of doom hidden in their secret base of operations, Sony has lost and will have a hard time recovering from their (near) fatal mistakes.
 
Who the hell cares about who "won?" Just play the games you like and leave it at that.
 
Dogasu said:
Who the hell cares about who "won?" Just play the games you like and leave it at that.
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With all due respect Dogasu, I would appreaciate it if you wouldn't jump to conclusions. I made this thread because I wish to know how everyone feels about the different companies. I could hardly care if people thought Sony is going to come out on top. That's not the point of this thread.
 
It's Nintendo, made evident by the disdain people express for the PS3s' (still) high prices and the fact that Halo 3 just wasn't as good as everyone expected.
 
Let's face it, Halo 3 wasn't as good as anyone expected. Although, I personally have been using the new Banjo Kazooie and Fable 2 to justify my 360 purchase.

And I agree on everything said about the PS3. You'd think the PSP would have taught Sony that A) People aren't going to buy a console-turned-media centre and B) NO-ONE wants to buy their entire DVD collection again. Sony just doesn't know how to market these things properly.

Now, Nintendo, I think, has won. But you have to admit, with the extensive library, there are some definate "filler" games in there, the DS especially. I mean come on, how many Sudoku games does one console need?

Having said that, I think many hardcore gamers like the 360 regardless because it's the "middle-ground" between the "kiddie" system and the "over-priced bullplop." However, let it be noted that, out of all of my friends who display these characteristics (I nearly typed faults there,) I've not seen one of them that doesn't see the Smash Brothers games as the greatest (or near enough) thing since sliced bread. I don't know how far this trend spreads, but it's certainly going to help Wii sales in the months to come.
 
dominated? lol, that's always funny for me to hear, but for this year the clear winner is going to be nintendo being able to catch up and pass the 360 in system sells, the high stock and high publicity, and having several 1st party big sellers, they are the ones with all the cash in their pockets.
 
Who dominated? NotSony, that's for sure.
 
Æsahættr said:
Sony just doesn't know how to market these things properly.
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Their commercials show that Sony thinks just like the fanboys do; anyone who doesn't play PSP/PS3 are morons. It really makes me sick.
 
Sony will come back up soon, once the PSP homebrew community finds more efficient ways to mod their PSP Lites.
 
I think he was just talking about the Wii's future line-up to show how it's most likely going to maintain its lead in sales.
 
Misty said:
Well, first off, I question the usage of the word "dominated" - that tends to imply a significant margin of victory.
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Well, it was the only word I could think of. I don't exactly have a thesaurus sitting right next to me.
 
Geoffrey said:
I know I'll probably get a lot of biased answers, but I want to know how everyone feels.

I feel that Nintendo is going to come out on top this year. The Wii and DS have a great library of games that utilize technology that, in my opinion, will revolutionize the gaming industry. The Wii and DS also have great first-party games, such as Wario Ware: Smooth Moves, Wii Sports (although it came out last year, it's still going strong even today), Wii Play, Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Battle Revolution, Super Paper Mario, Brain Age 2, The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, and, of course, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Super Mario Galaxy. There are also fantastic third-party games such as the Phoenix Wright series, the Trauma Center series, Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga for you Star Wars fans, and Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games. And don't forget that Super Smash Bros. Brawl will be coming out early next year, which will boost Wii sales for the holidays.

Microsoft, eh, I'm not sure. I don't know too much about it really, except about the most overrated game ever, Halo 3. It wasn't even on the top games list for long. It was quickly beat out by Phantom Hourglass.

Let's be frank here, Sony screwed up. They put too much unnecessary crap into their beloved PS3, and both the PS3 and PSP have an embarrassingly poor library, consisting mostly of multi-platforms and ports, most of which work terribly on the PS3/PSP, such as The Orange Box. Sony's arrogance from their previous years of domination has done them in. Unless Sony has an ultimate secret weapon of doom hidden in their secret base of operations, Sony has lost and will have a hard time recovering from their (near) fatal mistakes.
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- your response is the most biased of the lot

- firstly your thing about ps3 and psp games being mostly ports and multi that is a COMPLETE load of horse Sh!t. firsrly ALOT of 360 Games are multi platforms AND ports from pc games. and the same goes for the wii 80-90 % of its titles are ps2 ports or multi platform.
also you are stupid enough to blame Sony for this. this is not their fault nor Microsoft's nor is it Nintendo's fault. if you want to blame someone blame the developers such as EA, Ubisoft and Atari just to name a few.

- Also judging by your comments you are a Nintendo Nazi. you seem to loathe the other systems.

- Also you blame Sony for making people re buy their video library once again another idiotic comment.
firstly you would have re brought your titles when when thjey got rid of vhs and will eventually do the same with HD DVD or Blu-ray.
Secondly you should blame all the other motion picture and television studios for this not just Sony.

-also you talk of Sony's arrogance. what about that of Nintendo and Microsoft. they are just as arrogant. again another stupid statement

-also for those of you who complain about the new 40gb ps3 removing backwards compatibility? i find idiotic because +90% of still have your ps2's. so what is the point of backwards compatibility? the same goes for 360 and x-box also. backwards compatibility is NOT needed

-now finally for a response to your question.

in terms of sales Nintendo wins hands down.
in terms of software library 360 easily.
as for Sony they have a lot of work ahead.

but for beyond this year the winner will be Sony. why you ask?

1. Microsoft is in trouble because they rushed the 360 and have lost a billion dollars to repairs and lose millions more before the end. so expect the "720" in around 2010 or 2011.

2. Nintendo's wii appears to be a fad? but it will still be a great sucess however. we all know the controls can be better and the graphics ARE glorified ps2 graphics. so expect a new one in by the end of the decade also. plus Nintendo mus add dvd support if if wants to deliver another crushing blow to 360 and ps3.

3. As for Sony each month is adding more stuff to the console. like the soon to be added pvr fucntion. which is a good way to help boost sales.
also you can upgrade the hard drive to ANY size you want and are not stuck with two choices. i say this because sony's machine is still in its infancy as is the wii. but the ps3 is designed for longterm staying power and it appears it will outlast the other two.

in closing i love the wii and ps3 and only care about the 360 because of mass effect.
 
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- your response is the most biased of the lot
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Really? I will say right now that I'm not biased in any way, but if it appears to you that I am, then fine. Personally, I could say you're a Sony fanboy too, but let's not have a flamewar. Let's keep this as a professional debate, shall we?

- firstly your thing about ps3 and psp games being mostly ports and multi that is a COMPLETE load of horse Sh!t. firsrly ALOT of 360 Games are multi platforms AND ports from pc games. and the same goes for the wii 80-90 % of its titles are ps2 ports or multi platform.
also you are stupid enough to blame Sony for this. this is not their fault nor Microsoft's nor is it Nintendo's fault. if you want to blame someone blame the developers such as EA, Ubisoft and Atari just to name a few.
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Sorry, but what I said about Sony is true. There have been numerous reports about ports and PS3/PSP versions of milti-platforms having bugs and glitches in them. Also, Sony has very few first-party games, and few exclusive third-party games. These are faults of Sony, without a doubt. And please keep the insults to yourself.

- Also judging by your comments you are a Nintendo Nazi. you seem to loathe the other systems.
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Again, there's no need to be throwing around such insults. The moment you begin insulting people, the moment you begin losing your credentials. As for loathing the other systems, if that were true, I would've already said that Microsoft sucked and that would be the end of it. I'm just basing my comments on the facts.

- Also you blame Sony for making people re buy their video library once again another idiotic comment.
firstly you would have re brought your titles when when thjey got rid of vhs and will eventually do the same with HD DVD or Blu-ray.
Secondly you should blame all the other motion picture and television studios for this not just Sony.
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I actually forgot to mention the video library, I was only talking about the video game library. However, it is a somewhat questionable decision. DVDs and DVD players are now a common household item. It was really unnecessary for Sony to include a DVD player. And HD DVDs and Blu-ray aren't that popular at this moment. Besides, it'd be just silly to buy a video that you already own. I have plenty of VHS cassettes that I don't have DVDs of. And please, stop with the insults.

-also you talk of Sony's arrogance. what about that of Nintendo and Microsoft. they are just as arrogant. again another stupid statement
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Nintendo's arrogance is non-existant since 1. they're not trying to compete with Sony and Microsoft and 2. they haven't been leading in sales for quite a while now. Microsoft may have some arrogance from the previous year, however, Sony still has been thinking the same thing since they started ruling over the sales and deviated from that path. Also, why all these insults?

-also for those of you who complain about the new 40gb ps3 removing backwards compatibility? i find idiotic because +90% of still have your ps2's. so what is the point of backwards compatibility? the same goes for 360 and x-box also. backwards compatibility is NOT needed
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But what about people who don't own a PS2 or Xbox? Why should they suffer for it? And a lot of people didn't know about the PS3's lack of backwards compatibility, and had sold their PS2s to get a PS3. There have also been numerous "bargain" deals for this as well.

-now finally for a response to your question.

in terms of sales Nintendo wins hands down.
in terms of software library 360 easily.
as for Sony they have a lot of work ahead.
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I agree with this.

but for beyond this year the winner will be Sony. why you ask?

1. Microsoft is in trouble because they rushed the 360 and have lost a billion dollars to repairs and lose millions more before the end. so expect the "720" in around 2010 or 2011.
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That's true. Just about everyone knows about the Red Ring of Death.

2. Nintendo's wii appears to be a fad? but it will still be a great sucess however. we all know the controls can be better and the graphics ARE glorified ps2 graphics. so expect a new one in by the end of the decade also. plus Nintendo mus add dvd support if if wants to deliver another crushing blow to 360 and ps3.
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I really don't understand the DVD support thing. Since when did video game consoles have to have DVD players?
 
Exactly, I don't own a gamecube but I have a Wii. And without backwards compatibility I couldn't play ssbm or pikmin 2
 
I feel like adding two comments to this, even though I felt it seemed a little silly and cruel to fans of other systems:

The belief that the Nintendo Wii is a fad should be killed by now. It's dated as the idea that the DS is a fad. It's quite obvious why it will take over in the next generation rather than die here, it evolves the idea behind interacting with games. With 2D it was fun, but 3D added a lot more to games as will 3D interactions. I'm not saying to disreguard graphics, but I think newcomer microsoft jumbled their priorities when they brought out the 360 as a graphics update. (But I still think it's because MS's strategy is to bring PC gamers to consoles or make console gamers into pc gamers because that is what they are most familiar with, while PC gamers and Console gamers are different)

Now to be a little off topic.. I want to say that an external HDdvd drive for the 360 is a stupid waste of time. If you aren't going to include it internally, then you might as well save it for the next iteration. However, for the idea of HD DVD and BluRay ... I really have two significant issues with it. First, in it's defence, it isn't the same thing as saying the VHS and DVD replacement. You don't have to re-buy anything unless you want to as both still play dvds and are an evolution of the technology (not the shift like with VHS and Cassettes).

Second, though, is that they are not a big paradigm shift as it was with DVD to VHS. There really is no evidence to show that either format will catch on.. There just isn't a big enough pull. When people upgraded from VHS to DVD, they weren't just getting a clearer picture, they got a more portable format, a more durable format: one that no longer could get stuck or damaged from magnets, and the idea of getting to see extras and features not in movies theaters like director comments, cut scenes, and different language tracks. The jump from HD DVD and BluRay from DVD don't really offer anything new but High Definition. The greater disk space is really only going to be shown in the BluRay version, in which it depends if the company wants to use that as it cost more money. These new formats are actually less durable than DVDs now, too, so it's really not the same. If people update their dvd collection they probably only will re-buy the few that they want.

I just don't like all this hype around HD, sure it is true that given the choice between standard and HD, I'd pick HD, but the difference isn't as big as TV and certain game companies want you to think. It's not completely forced, but it feels like a forced switch. It's not really the ability to display HD that really seperates the 360 and PS3 from the Wii graphically. Those systems have the power behind them to put more on the screen. The HD is like adding the sprinkles to your ice cream.

Also, Sony really has done about as good a job as they could have done. PSPs are selling better and PS3s are selling better. They finally took their heads out of the clouds and are considering that they can come in 3rd even after 10 years. They announced some pretty cool stuff for the PS3, and it looks like they could really have their moments in 2008 if all goes to plan. They did pretty much the best that they can do.

Actually, I think that Microsoft did also, although personally I think that at the same time they may have used their cards a little too early. I don't think they have any games that can counter the PS3's potential library for next year... but they did well as to convince Japanese studios to support them.

Now for Nintendo... they are still the "winner" of this as I stated before, as they were the most profitable in both money, popularity, and publicity on all of their fronts (DS and Wii included). Benefits to the gamer are disregarded, no one cares if "Blood Brothers 7" is the best gamer experience ever if it only sells as much as EA sports 2008 and there isn't a significant jump in new consumers. This is a business world, there are no sprinkles and fairy dust like Nintendo may want you to think.

But Nintendo, they can't celebrate yet. If you ask me, they have no real reason to celebrate. National Sell outs is great, and people know about the Wii... but knowledge about the games is seriously lacking. Most games go unadvertised, most as in 90%+ of the games. It gives the impression to the consumer that most games aren't worth it. Nintendo said they'd be on the ball with advertising, but they are still lacking behind sony and microsoft. They really need to be getting on that as fast as possible. Sure there are lots of people excited about Wiifit and Smash, but it isn't safe to assume that all advertising can be done through the web! I can't really comment on their 08 strategy, since the castration of E3, nintendo's been holding back on their game announcements for the next term. We have no clue what they will bring past March, but before then, we have a lot to look forwards to for gamers and nongamers alike, and we have a lot to look forwards to from 3rd party developers. It isn't certain if they can top the PS3's big guns, but it is enough to hang with them (if they can go to plan...)

So that's my serious take, even though Nintendo "won" 07, they still need to step their game up.
[edit: now that's a long rant...]
 
Geoffrey said:
Sorry, but what I said about Sony is true. There have been numerous reports about ports and PS3/PSP versions of milti-platforms having bugs and glitches in them. Also, Sony has very few first-party games, and few exclusive third-party games. These are faults of Sony, without a doubt. And please keep the insults to yourself.
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and so do the other systems. yet you somehow seem to ignore it... i wonder why.
cause deep in your heart you know i'm right. i'm sure many other people here will agree with me.
i will add a few links to prove my point beyond a shadow of a doubt.
heres the PS3 link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games
heres the 360 link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games
heres the wii link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_games

*i'm aware the wii list doesn't say whether it is or not but if go through each game 80% of them are at least multi platforms or ports.
*thats the killer blow to that part of your statement to geoff :)

Geoffrey said:
Nintendo's arrogance is non-existant since 1. they're not trying to compete with Sony and Microsoft and 2. they haven't been leading in sales for quite a while now. Microsoft may have some arrogance from the previous year, however, Sony still has been thinking the same thing since they started ruling over the sales and deviated from that path. Also, why all these insults?
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what do you mean not trying to compete with Sony or Microsoft??? seriously now that is stupid. sorry to be an ass but it is.


as for a Sony fanboy. i am... but i am also a Wii fan as stated earlier.

as for being rude i'm sorry but it is frustrating when you see such short sighted statements with know thought put into them.

also with this format war don't be surprised if it goes the way of the VCD...
 
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First off, not knowing how to use tags, or spell, or use grammar correctly, is frustrating, and makes it look like you don't put thought into your posts. And stop trying to turn this into a fanboy war, and don't say you aren't, because you're baiting it from every possible angle. And I think Geoff has been putting a lot of thought into his posts. I'm not trying to incur any form of war here, but 3 words: Liberty City Stories.

For another of my 2 cents, I think it will even out for all consoles. The 360 has been selling really well since it came out. However, Halo 3 was the major selling point for the 360, and now that it's out, it's sales can be expected to drop.

The PS3 really didn't get off to a great start. With the delays, the tiny range of launch titles, and the price of it, it hasn't been very popular this year. However, all the kinks are fast getting worked out, it's getting cheaper, and with MGS4 and other big sellers on the way, it's popularity, I think, will surge in the next 2 years.

The Wii will probably stay the same I think. Depending on what games are released next year, sales could drop, but it's held a really strong sales level for a year straight. It did take some time to get going, with such a small launch title range, but some of the ones that came out after that (LoZ:TP, may have been overrated, but you gotta admit, it helped the Wii a LOT) really spurred the Wii on is sales and awareness. I think the Wii is doing well because it's marketed itself to the biggest target audience: Everyone.

I normally don't quibble about graphics, but I think that this really needs to be rectified with the DS. I know, I know, the graphics in a lot of DS games have been handled really well, but it just can't handle much other than the cute little "Mario" graphics. If Nintendo is going to upgrade the DS, it's going to need to take a leaf out of Microsofts book, and make it a graphics power upgrade. I honestly don't care all that much about graphics (which is why Yoshi's Story is still the best game EVAR,) but Goldeneye: Rogue Agent on the DS was ruined for me because they tried too hard to give it the same graphics as it's PS2 counterpart and failed.
 
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