Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis?

[BlackKing]

As the title suggest who do you think was more evil of the two. I would have to choose Cyrus I mean come on he wanted to destroy the universe and become a god in his own right. I know what Ghetsis was bad for what he did to N and the player. But trying to save the universe from destruction is more scarier than being frozen if you ask me. So you guys who do you think is more eviler Cyrus or Ghetsis?

 

[S.S. Shadow Minun]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Looks wise, Ghetsis is more evil. But strategy wise, Cyrus is more evil because of ambitions of taking over the world. I would pick Cyrus, although I am not a fan of Team Galactic (Galaxy Gang).

 

[Life]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Cyrus stepped into his own dimension which basically was destroyed seconds afterwards. He was mad with power.

Win = Cyrus.

 

[coolcatkim22]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Eh, they're both equally as evil. If anything, those two are just the more insane villains.

I get really confused when people act as if Ghetsis is the most evil villain that ever there was. I think it's cause of all the hype N has.

 

[LadyScathach]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis.

At least Cyrus never tried to kill you.

 

[Supreme Leader Palpitoad]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis.

At least Cyrus never tried to kill you.

Cyrus wanted to destroy our world. I think that means you will be killed. So I think I have to say Cyrus. But Ghetsis used N and the Team PLasma grunts to fulfill his own dirty goals.

 

[jjl2357]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis definitely seemed more irredeemably evil, especially in his treatment of N. Cyrus could at least get a bit of sympathy from his portrayal as a broken-hearted man gone insane.

 

[LadyScathach]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis.

At least Cyrus never tried to kill you.

Cyrus wanted to destroy our world. I think that means you will be killed. So I think I have to say Cyrus. But Ghetsis used N and the Team PLasma grunts to fulfill his own dirty goals.

I meant that in a direct sense of killing the PC. Cyrus's goal was to create a world without strife. In order to get to that goal there would, of course, be casualties, such as, let's say, the Sinnoh region. Cyrus didn't care about the trees, the individual people. Instead he took more of a forest approach, that is to do what he believed would better the human race as a whole. Of course, his belief would result in the death of the PC, but he never singled the character out and ordered Kyurem to Glaciate said player.

 

[GliscorMan]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Cyrus wasn't actually evil, IMO. He just had a major case of hubris. He thought that, if he reset the world, he'd be able to run it himself and that that would make everything so much better for everyone else. He had the power, and he thought he was going the right thing. He was convinced that he'd be able to end suffering, grief, and fighting if he rose to power.

Ghetsis actually wanted to kill you. Personally. And on top of that, he didn't actually believe that taking people's Pokemon away from them would make both people and Pokemon happier. He was just using that as a rallying point and a powerplay, in order to remove any sort of opposition. From there, he'd rule the world. His second plot was all about revenge, getting back at the world. And again, taking power for himself.

Now tell me. Which is more evil? The guy who genuinely thinks that what he's doing is the right thing, or the guy who is doing what he does simply to get power over everyone else, and doesn't care about anyone else?

 

[PiPie314]

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Cyrus was "evil" because he was trying to create a "better" world. Its kind of "I'm saving you all from your own stupidity!" kind of thing. He probably thought he was doing something good. Ghetsis was the generic "take over the world and be the supreme overlord!" kind of guy. Oh yeah and

In Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, Ghetsis is the first antagonist in the main series games to try to incapacitate the player. He attempts to have Kyurem freeze the player with Glaciate, but that move cannot cause freezing when used in battle. Before the English releases of Pokémon Black 2 and White 2, this threat was mistranslated by various sources as a threat to kill and impale them using Kyurem's icicles.]

combined that with how he treated N, he's probably the more evil of the two.

 

[Magma Bomb]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Although Cyrus would cause far more damage attempting to reset the world, he was doing it because on his own twisted mind he thought it would be the best thing for the world.
On the other hand, Ghetsis uses his "Pokémon freedom" speech as a rouse. He makes it clear in the end he doesn't care about them at all, he just wants to rule Unova with an iron fist through manipulation of N, whose childhood was ruined him by him, and the local region legendaries, one of these he used to attack you.

 

[Silverwynde]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis by a long shot.

Okay, Cyrus was screwed up in the head, but he never lied about what he wanted to do: he said outright that he wanted to remake the world in his own image. Now that is evil but he didn't hide this behind a "let's hold hands and be friends" image. He owned up to it. Ghetsis on the other hand...

Ghetsis turned a child into a weapon. He lied to the people of Unova and tried to get them to release their Pokemon, not for the Pokemon's benefit but for his. He tried to kill someone--the PC--in cold blood. Ghetsis owns the evil category right now; Cyrus can't come close.

 

[Dakhem Uaid]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis by a long shot.

Okay, Cyrus was screwed up in the head, but he never lied about what he wanted to do: he said outright that he wanted to remake the world in his own image. Now that is evil but he didn't hide this behind a "let's hold hands and be friends" image. He owned up to it. Ghetsis on the other hand...

Ghetsis turned a child into a weapon. He lied to the people of Unova and tried to get them to release their Pokemon, not for the Pokemon's benefit but for his. He tried to kill someone--the PC--in cold blood. Ghetsis owns the evil category right now; Cyrus can't come close.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Cyrus may even have been a little misguided, while Ghetsis knew exactly what he was doing.

I suppose Cyrus is more evil if you count deeds only, but Ghetsis was far more... devil-like, I guess. Mephistophelian.

 

[LadyScathach]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Cyrus may even have been a little misguided, while Ghetsis knew exactly what he was doing.

I suppose Cyrus is more evil if you count deeds only, but Ghetsis was far more... devil-like, I guess. Mephistophelian.

Mephistophelian is being too nice. I mean, Mephistopheles is actually pretty likable. lol

 

[Helioptile]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis. Although Cyrus's PLAN was more evil, Ghetsis himself was just cruel.

 

[Dakhem Uaid]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Cyrus may even have been a little misguided, while Ghetsis knew exactly what he was doing.

I suppose Cyrus is more evil if you count deeds only, but Ghetsis was far more... devil-like, I guess. Mephistophelian.

Mephistophelian is being too nice. I mean, Mephistopheles is actually pretty likable. lol

So was Ghetsis, that's the point. That's why he had such a large following.

 

[LadyScathach]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Cyrus may even have been a little misguided, while Ghetsis knew exactly what he was doing.

I suppose Cyrus is more evil if you count deeds only, but Ghetsis was far more... devil-like, I guess. Mephistophelian.

Mephistophelian is being too nice. I mean, Mephistopheles is actually pretty likable. lol

So was Ghetsis, that's the point. That's why he had such a large following.

Ghetsis wasn't very likable. That's why he had to drag N into it.

Ghetsis still had a following after N had left, but I picture that as a result of forced service, alliances of convenience, and blatant lies. Ghetsis isn't the only power-hungry person, but he was the one with the audacity to seek that power. Other power-seeking people would simply join for a slice of the reward.

 

[Dakhem Uaid]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Cyrus may even have been a little misguided, while Ghetsis knew exactly what he was doing.

I suppose Cyrus is more evil if you count deeds only, but Ghetsis was far more... devil-like, I guess. Mephistophelian.

Mephistophelian is being too nice. I mean, Mephistopheles is actually pretty likable. lol

So was Ghetsis, that's the point. That's why he had such a large following.

Ghetsis wasn't very likable. That's why he had to drag N into it.

Ghetsis still had a following after N had left, but I picture that as a result of forced service, alliances of convenience, and blatant lies. Ghetsis isn't the only power-hungry person, but he was the one with the audacity to seek that power. Other power-seeking people would simply join for a slice of the reward.

N is definitely more likable, but you can't deny Ghetsis has charisma.

 

[lucariomaster2]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Ghetsis. Cyrus was only evil because he had misguided beliefs. Ghetsis was just bad, and he did want to rule the world with an iron fist.

 

[Dakhem Uaid]

Re: Who was more evil Cyrus or Ghetsis.

Better than destroying it. Also, Ghetsis was not "just" bad. He was EEEEEVIL!