Why do you guys want regular evolutions over megas

[Fairy Type Arceus]

I've seen it everywhere: "I hope megas doesn't keep regular evoulutions from happening/these megas could have been permanent normal evolution's" or "These megas kept us from getting more new pokemon its why we have 71 new ones" Well first of all I'd blame that on the 718+ models they had to create for not only battles but pokemon amie and super training and secondly if they weren't megas most of these might have been real evolutions but premanet, dunno about you but I'd hate to evolve heracross into this:

Thank god Its not permanent then
so I can take advantage of the power boost without having to look at its ugly face 24/7


Ok let's back track for a minute, and look at some permanet evolution's that take up space in our pokedex

Lickilicki


Nosepropass

magmortar

These evolutions look horrible and guess what you have to get them for your pokedex and they don't even have that much of a power boost compared to megas.

One last thing we'll use absol as an example

Say absol is your favorite pokemon its a little lackluster though, you have 2 choices a mega in which case it stays absol it gets to be a better absol and stays your favorite pokemon or a real evolution it changes the pokemon entirely its no longer absol and its not your favorite pokemon anymore it looks worse then absol and brings shame to absols line (like magmortar) which would you choose?

Honestly the mega it stays my favorite pokemon and gets a boost, Its like back in DBZ say vegeta is your favorite saiyan (pre andriod saga) but he's weaker then goku should vegeta be replaced with a better saiyan that randomly appears and is already a super saiyan and acts like vegta or should he learn super saiyan thus boosting your favorite character while keeping him on screen. Megas are better then normal evos even if you hate the megas design it isn't permanent and it makes your favorite much stronger and the mega tends to stay close to the original design normal evos not always, I mean elctwivre looks nothing like evltabuzz aside from those head things. If absols evolution was permanet people would have forgetton absol and used its evo, megas make the pokemon better evos make the old pokemon irrelevant and forgotten.

Say mawhile got a real evo we'd all stop using mawile and his new evo would be used making mawile forgotten. instead mawile got a buff and mawile is used more then ever. A normal evo would have just made mawile a pokemon that evolves into its new more stronger stage. I've stated all my points so please comment and tell me your thoughts.

 

[EvilChameleon]

As long as the next generation has more new Pokemon than the 6th generation added, they can add as many mega evolutions as they want.

 

[Bolt Strike]

Say mawhile got a real evo we'd all stop using mawile and his new evo would be used making mawile forgotten. instead mawile got a buff and mawile is used more then ever. A normal evo would have just made mawile a pokemon that evolves into its new more stronger stage. I've stated all my points so please comment and tell me your thoughts.

Doesn't really matter. More than likely, you'll have to catch Mawile to use its evolution, which means you will have to use it. And even if you didn't, it doesn't really matter whether or not unevolved Pokemon are used, most people look at the family as a whole. On the other hand though, if a Pokemon gets a Mega Evolution and it falls out of use, there's little more that can be done to improve it.

 

[skyradiant]

I feel like Mega Evolutions are part of a long series of attempts by GameFreak to please fans, here's what I mean:
People got nostalgic for older Pokémon, so GF gives older Pokémon evolutions in Diamond and Pearl.
People really hate the new evolutions and some even believe it "ruined" older Pokémon, so GF introduces the Evoilite in Black and White, so people can use their old favorites.
People hate Gen 5 for all the new Pokémon, and a lack of older Pokémon, so GF introduces Mega Evolutions to give fan-favorites the spotlight, and Black 2, White 2, X, and Y have Pokedexes with loads of older Pokémon (and in Gen 6's case, few new Pokémon).

 

[Osprey]

If a Pokemon that has 2 evolutionary stages now got a third and final evolved form, would that really be such a bad thing? Even if you don't like its final form, there's such thing as Eviolite now. I'd personally prefer only Pokemon with two or three evolutionary stages get Megas. I mean, what would be so bad about making Mawile's Megavolution into its final evolved form? I'm not real passionate about this issue, but I don't see why normal evolution should be shoved aside in favor for Megas when it comes to improving certain Pokemon.

 

[Tyrfing]

I think regular evolutions are preferred because fan demand has wanted these Pokemon to get evolutions for some time now, and they feel they got shafted. With that said, I have to agree with them on a few Pokes; Mawile should of gotten a real evolution; so should of Sableye, and maybe Pinsir; but some like Absol and Heracross were way too powerful to get genuine evolutions.

 

[Silktree]

Some Pokémon are already forgotten as far as most people are concerned, so saying that an evolution would hurt their popularity is a stretch. And as people have said, a new evolution also means that the existing Pokémon can now take advantage of Eviolite.

Mega Evolution promotes competition since only one can be used per a team. Pokémon with subpar stats (a BST lower than 450) don't have a fair shot compared to stronger ones even if they all get the Mega Evolution treatment. Mawile is an anomaly due to Huge Power, but that shouldn't be the solution every time.

Cross-generational evolutions and Mega Evolutions can easily co-exist, especially since the former are only given to a few Pokémon (there are already more Mega Evolutions). Phasing out one in favor of the other is just silly, but it's premature to say that this is the long-term plan.

 

[Almonds]

I never saw anyone actually use Mega Abomasnow. Idk how it's supposed to be competitive-wise, but the Mega form is barely any different from a regular Abomasnow. If Abomasnow got a regular evolution instead of a Mega, at least it'd be able to use Eviolite somewhat and stay alive for at least one more turn. So for some pokemon, a regular evolution would have helped much better.

 

[henrymidfields]

For naysaying Mega-Evolution for, say Venusaur, or Charizard, one question I would ask back is: Would fans be happy to see a four-stage evolutionary line? I would probably not be, as that would make existing three-stage Pokémon lines overpowered in general. At least, with ME, there are limitations in place; eg 1 ME per party, no other held items, Eviolite does not apply to the final permanent evolution stage.

On the other hand, some Pokémon can do with permanent evolutions - mainly those that are only two-staged and have BST<450. ME would probably close off further cross-gen evolutions, judging from the ME patterns.

 

[Silktree]

For naysaying Mega-Evolution for, say Venusaur, or Charizard, one question I would ask back is: Would fans be happy to see a four-stage evolutionary line?

I'm pretty sure that most people wouldn't want that. But most Pokémon aren't part of a three-stage line.

I recall Masuda saying that he came up with Mega Evolution because of three-stage lines like the starters, which he wanted to boost without rendering them broken (hence the limitations). The problem lies in applying that logic for every Pokémon.

 

[Talon87]

There are a few Pokémon i'd really like to see official evolutions for. One of them was Mawile, but with Mega Mawile being a thing now, the only way for this wish to now be granted is for Game Freak to brush the mega evolution under the rug and right back out the other side as a proper evolution. "You saw nothing! ¬¬" Another creature I'd really like a proper evolution for is Jynx. This one I've still got a chance, but with mega evolution apparently being the in vogue thing now with gifting older creatures new stages, it's not looking good for me.

Why do some fans insist on official evolutions rather than mega evolutions, you ask? There are a number of reasons I can think of, some of which apply to myself and others of which apply to other fans. This is an incomplete list but should be enough to shed light on the subject.

Canon: Some fans feel like mega evolutions are, in a sense, "unofficial evolutions" / "not real evolutions." And while it seems horridly unlikely at this point, there remains the possibility that megas will be a Gen VI gimmick that are left behind once we migrate over to Gen VII. (Horridly unlikely, so save your disagreements. I disagree it'll happen too. :| I'm just saying, Game Freak heavily marketed megas as "exclusive to the Kalos region" when they were introduced, which both at the time and even now felt like it was their own way of providing themselves an escape hatch should megas prove to be wildly unpopular.) Because of such sentiments, some fans would rather see their dream evolution be an official evolution rather than a mega.

Team Options: Current rules prohibit the activation of more than one mega stone per team per battle. So what happens if your favorite Pokémon in the whole wide world are Mega Charizard X, Mega Lucario, and Mega Metagross? In an even bigger way than fans of very weak creatures are, you are denied the option to play with all of your favorites at once. Even the kid who wants to play with the team of all legends is technically enabled to by Game Freak. So why can't the fan of a variety of mega evolved states? When your favorites all happen to be official evolutions, it means that you get to play with all of your favorites on a team and no one can stop you.

Competitive Viability: As we all know, mega evolutions are required to hold onto a Mega Stone. For most megas, the tradeoff is worth it. But there are a few out there who would really rather not lose their Gen 5 moveset and hold item of choice. For these creatures, the mega evolution is pretty much trash-worthless. If it had been a standard evolution, then it'd be a clear upgrade. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for all megas to be able to hold a different item. I understand perfectly well that this would create a number of rather OP Pokémon if we did that. I'm just saying that some megas are good examples of the problem of the mega stone requirement. And that this leads many a fan to wish for his or her own dream evolution to be a standard one rather than a mega one.

Symmetry: This is a big one for Jynx, and it probably applies to a few others as well. Ever since GSC, fans have seen Jynx, Electabuzz, and Magmar as forming an odd trio of sorts, the result of the fact that a) they enjoyed similar PokéDex placement in Gen 1 and b) they received baby pre-evos in Gen 2. Since their babies were segregated from the other babies of the generation (Togepi, Pichu, Igglybuff, and Cleffa), it helped to foster this idea of the trio. Well, fast forward to Diamond & Pearl and what happens? Two of the three get new evolutions ... but not Jynx. :| It's just weird now. It creates this annoying asymmetry. An asymmetry that would only be worsened if we lock Jynx into a mega evolution. For the sake of symmetry, fans like myself would really, really prefer it if Jynx's evolution (if ever she gets one) were a standard evolution rather than a mega one.

Dislike of single-stage lines getting megas before getting standard evolutions: This is what I think you'll find most people complaining about when it comes to Mawile, Sableye, and other single-stage creatures that received megas. Not everyone in the fandom, but ever since Generation 1 a huge chunk of our fandom has been driven crazy by the fact that some Pokémon just never evolve. To finally gift a non-evolving Pokémon an evolution ... only for that evolution to be an "unofficial" mega evolution ... I can appreciate how that would drive some fans crazy. ^^;

 

[Dr. Buni]

I don't. I vastly prefer mega evolutions over regular evolutions. The henshin aspect of mega evolutions, plus the fact megas aren't actual new Pokémon please me.

 

[Norzan]

Mawile should of gotten a real evolution; so should of Sableye,

Are you crazy? Do you want Eviolite Prankster Sableye to be a thing?

 

[Almonds]

Mawile should of gotten a real evolution; so should of Sableye,

Are you crazy? Do you want Eviolite Prankster Sableye to be a thing?

I'm not a competitive player but gee, that sounds super scary ;_; That little goblin is going to be a real pain especially in doubles/triples if had an evo to use Eviolite.

 

[Quetsol Melt]

For naysaying Mega-Evolution for, say Venusaur, or Charizard, one question I would ask back is: Would fans be happy to see a four-stage evolutionary line?

I recall Masuda saying that he came up with Mega Evolution because of three-stage lines like the starters, which he wanted to boost without rendering them broken (hence the limitations). The problem lies in applying that logic for every Pokémon.

What if they decided to give certain Mega Evolved Pokémon more than 100 points to their base stats? People might disagree but I think it could somehow work.

Another creature I'd really like a proper evolution for is Jynx. This one I've still got a chance, but with mega evolution apparently being the in vogue thing now with gifting older creatures new stages, it's not looking good for me.

I recently gave up any hope of Jynx getting an evolution, so a Mega Evolution would be more than welcomed by me. I truly believe that if they were going to give her an evolution, Generation IV would have been the best opportunity to do so. The best example of this is just to look at Banette and Dusclops, two very obvious counterparts and to an extent version exclusive Pokémon (in parts of Hoenn), hell their first two stages share the same base stat totals. They gave Dusclops an evolution in Generation IV and nothing to Banette, come around to this generation and Banette is given a Mega Evolution. I'm predicting that the same thing will happen to Jynx, she'll either get a Mega Evolution in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire or in X2&Y2/Z.

 

[Talon87]

I recently gave up any hope of Jynx getting an evolution, so a Mega Evolution would be more than welcomed by me. I truly believe that if they were going to give her an evolution, Generation IV would have been the best opportunity to do so. The best example of this is just to look at Banette and Dusclops, two very obvious counterparts and to an extent version exclusive Pokémon (in parts of Hoenn), hell their first two stages share the same base stat totals. They gave Dusclops an evolution in Generation IV and nothing to Banette, come around to this generation and Banette is given a Mega Evolution. I'm predicting that the same thing will happen to Jynx, she'll either get a Mega Evolution in Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire or in X2&Y2/Z.

It's not over 'til the fat lady sings. All I can say is, if they decide to give Jynx a mega evolution instead of a standard evolution, I will be all aboard the "convert megas into standards in a future gen!" train so, so hard and without apology. Even if that means *shudder* four-stage evolution lines. Screw it. If they make "Mega Jynx" instead of an altogether new creature, I'm going to wish hard for her and Mega Mawile both to be retconned into new standard evos.

 

[Fairy Type Arceus]

There are a few Pokémon i'd really like to see official evolutions for. One of them was Mawile, but with Mega Mawile being a thing now, the only way for this wish to now be granted is for Game Freak to brush the mega evolution under the rug and right back out the other side as a proper evolution. "You saw nothing! ¬¬" Another creature I'd really like a proper evolution for is Jynx. This one I've still got a chance, but with mega evolution apparently being the in vogue thing now with gifting older creatures new stages, it's not looking good for me.

Why do some fans insist on official evolutions rather than mega evolutions, you ask? There are a number of reasons I can think of, some of which apply to myself and others of which apply to other fans. This is an incomplete list but should be enough to shed light on the subject.

Canon: Some fans feel like mega evolutions are, in a sense, "unofficial evolutions" / "not real evolutions." And while it seems horridly unlikely at this point, there remains the possibility that megas will be a Gen VI gimmick that are left behind once we migrate over to Gen VII. (Horridly unlikely, so save your disagreements. I disagree it'll happen too. :| I'm just saying, Game Freak heavily marketed megas as "exclusive to the Kalos region" when they were introduced, which both at the time and even now felt like it was their own way of providing themselves an escape hatch should megas prove to be wildly unpopular.) Because of such sentiments, some fans would rather see their dream evolution be an official evolution rather than a mega.

Team Options: Current rules prohibit the activation of more than one mega stone per team per battle. So what happens if your favorite Pokémon in the whole wide world are Mega Charizard X, Mega Lucario, and Mega Metagross? In an even bigger way than fans of very weak creatures are, you are denied the option to play with all of your favorites at once. Even the kid who wants to play with the team of all legends is technically enabled to by Game Freak. So why can't the fan of a variety of mega evolved states? When your favorites all happen to be official evolutions, it means that you get to play with all of your favorites on a team and no one can stop you.

Competitive Viability: As we all know, mega evolutions are required to hold onto a Mega Stone. For most megas, the tradeoff is worth it. But there are a few out there who would really rather not lose their Gen 5 moveset and hold item of choice. For these creatures, the mega evolution is pretty much trash-worthless. If it had been a standard evolution, then it'd be a clear upgrade. Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for all megas to be able to hold a different item. I understand perfectly well that this would create a number of rather OP Pokémon if we did that. I'm just saying that some megas are good examples of the problem of the mega stone requirement. And that this leads many a fan to wish for his or her own dream evolution to be a standard one rather than a mega one.

Symmetry: This is a big one for Jynx, and it probably applies to a few others as well. Ever since GSC, fans have seen Jynx, Electabuzz, and Magmar as forming an odd trio of sorts, the result of the fact that a) they enjoyed similar PokéDex placement in Gen 1 and b) they received baby pre-evos in Gen 2. Since their babies were segregated from the other babies of the generation (Togepi, Pichu, Igglybuff, and Cleffa), it helped to foster this idea of the trio. Well, fast forward to Diamond & Pearl and what happens? Two of the three get new evolutions ... but not Jynx. :| It's just weird now. It creates this annoying asymmetry. An asymmetry that would only be worsened if we lock Jynx into a mega evolution. For the sake of symmetry, fans like myself would really, really prefer it if Jynx's evolution (if ever she gets one) were a standard evolution rather than a mega one.

Dislike of single-stage lines getting megas before getting standard evolutions: This is what I think you'll find most people complaining about when it comes to Mawile, Sableye, and other single-stage creatures that received megas. Not everyone in the fandom, but ever since Generation 1 a huge chunk of our fandom has been driven crazy by the fact that some Pokémon just never evolve. To finally gift a non-evolving Pokémon an evolution ... only for that evolution to be an "unofficial" mega evolution ... I can appreciate how that would drive some fans crazy. ^^;

But then jynx wouldn't be jynx anymore it'd be (insert name of evo here) say magmar was your favorite in gen 3, but you thought magmar needs more power, so diamond and pearl come along and magmar has an evolution thing is its not magmar its not your favorite pokemon, its your favorite pokemons evolution magmortar. While the eviolite is a cool item to make your defences stronger it won't make your pokemon any stronger, just more of a wall magmar isn't known for being a wall pokemon. (also I was thinking why can't pokemon with megas still have megas and have a new real evo ex: if you want mega mawile don't evolve it but if you want mawiles new real evo evolve it but you lose the ability to mega evolve)

 

[Norzan]

One thing i really like about Mega Evolution over regular evolutions: the way you can play with the normal form and mega form abilities. Like for example:

- Choosing not mega evolve with Scrappy Kangaskhan and get a Fake Out to flinch a Ghost, then mega evolve to finish the job.
- Having Intimidate on Mawile to mega evolve more safely into M-Mawile against physical attackers.
- Having Hyper Cutter on Pinsir to avoid getting an Attack decrease, then mega evolve into M-Pinsir while having your Attack intact.
- Now there's Speed Boost Sharpedo getting a Speed boost or two, then mega evolve and Crunch everything to death.

I'm sure there are others and this is one of the things i like about Mega Evolutions.

 

[Silverwynde]

Team Options: Current rules prohibit the activation of more than one mega stone per team per battle. So what happens if your favorite Pokémon in the whole wide world are Mega Charizard X, Mega Lucario, and Mega Metagross? In an even bigger way than fans of very weak creatures are, you are denied the option to play with all of your favorites at once. Even the kid who wants to play with the team of all legends is technically enabled to by Game Freak. So why can't the fan of a variety of mega evolved states? When your favorites all happen to be official evolutions, it means that you get to play with all of your favorites on a team and no one can stop you.

Ugh, welcome to my nightmare.

Granted, my top three faves haven't gotten a Mega yet--those being Golurk, Bisharp and Sawk--but if the three of them did I'd be hosed. Of course I'd lead with my Mega Golurk but if my opponent had something that Mega Bisharp could handle and Mega Golurk couldn't, I'd be slagged. Same with a Mega Sawk. That doesn't seem fair since others can run with an entire team of ubers and Legends.

Now in my case, I do happen to love the idea of Mega evolution and I want more. Maybe GF will allow more than one Mega on an in-game team or something, so I can have a Mega Golurk and a Mega Bisharp battling an NPC. That would be kinda epic, really.

 

[smalllady]

Because mega evolutions are just glorified formes. The forced tutorial in X/Y was really irritating, since you were forced to lose if you didn't mega-evolve Lucario. It made no sense since every other time an NPC mega-evolved their Pokemon, I was already in the process of swiftly defeating them without mega evolution.

I wouldn't care about it if they didn't keep trying to shoehorn it into the plot of every single game. Imagine if they tried shoving EV training down our throats via the plot. It's a game mechanic I don't care about.