Why does everyone think Gen V is ending???

[Zekrom's Lover]

I don't understand i mean why would you think the release of the 3DS and the announcement of B2 and W2 signal the end of Gen V?

 

[The Outrage]

The release of the 3DS? The 3DS has been out for awhile now, with Game Freak being one of the first companies to receive a 3DS development kit. Then there's also the accelerated pace the anime is going as well as the accelerated release of event Pokemon with Meloetta and Keldeo being revealed in the same year. Only Genesect is left. Unless the anime is going to pull an Orange Island for 2 years (Unova League is set to start in 3 months), its a pretty good indication that the generation is winding down.

Why, might I ask, do you think it's not? It's three years by next year and just as many Pokemon games have lasted 3 years as they did 4, and only games with remakes are lasting 4. BW2 are already getting criticisms for being a DS game and now with the 3DS succeeding, Nintendo's shifting all its support for it with little to no games on the DS. It makes no sense to start the entry to the 3DS with a remake to keep it in Gen V since remakes never sell as well as the first two installments, and would sell even less if people are forced to buy a new system. However, a new generation is a driving force for people to pick up new systems. The only reason I've seen for why people think its going to be extended is that people still perceive this pattern of remakes despite Game Freak showing that they are perfectly capable of not following fan-perceived patterns.

 

[Zekrom's Lover]

BW2 are already getting criticisms for being a DS game and now with the 3DS succeeding, Nintendo's shifting all its support for it with little to no games on the DS.

And why would it be wrong for R/S/E remakes to act as the first main series games on the 3DS and not Gen VI games?

 

[The Outrage]

And why would it be wrong for R/S/E remakes to act as the first main series games on the 3DS and not Gen VI games?

Did you stop reading there or something? I gave an explanation why it wouldn't be good to start off with remakes right after that line.

 

[Faye Scarlet]

BW came out late 2009 in Japan. oAo After B2W2 have their fun, there'd be no reason NOT to start Gen VI.

And as much as I'd love RSEmakes, I admit The Outrage has a point. Those, too, can wait til the debut of Gen VI.

 

[ZACH ATTACK]

BW came out late 2009 in Japan.

Uhh, no. They came out in late 2010.

That's aside from the point. The Outrage is right when he said that remakes wouldn't start a Generation. I also don't see why GameFreak wouldn't take advantage of 3D right now, but they could do something screwy like with Pokemon Dash/Trozeii that came out for the DS before Gen IV (correct me if I'm wrong here).

 

[Davethunder]

I also don't see why GameFreak wouldn't take advantage of 3D right now, but they could do something screwy like with Pokemon Dash/Trozeii that came out for the DS before Gen IV (correct me if I'm wrong here).

They already did with super pokemon rumble

 

[Proxima Centauri B]

A new generation seems to draw more people to Pokemon than remakes. Honestly, I have bought basically every system I own except the Wii to play a new generation of Pokemon. Many Pokemon fans dont want to miss out on the new games so are willing to buy a new system to get the new generations. Remakes might draw some people in but a new generation attracts more fans both old and new. The fact is eventually Game Freak is going to need to drop the DS. So why not start Gen 6 on the 3DS first, and draw in more people and boost 3DS sales. Pokemon is a big seller for Nintendo and is going to cause 3DS sales to go up.

 

[CrackFox]

Multiple reasons. The anime is very near to the League and if they decided to make a little ark afterwards, it generally doesn't last very long. They're probably already penning the next Gen. BW2 is a rehash, like Pokemon Platinum was to DP. It wont have taken very long to knock out since it's just the milking of BW for all it's worth. I think the writers have definitely started planning the next gen.

 

[H-con]

BW2 is a rehash, like Pokemon Platinum was to DP. It wont have taken very long to knock out since it's just the milking of BW for all it's worth.

But that's wrong. BW2 isn't a rehash, it's a completely new game set in the same region. That's a pretty big difference right there.

But yeah, gen V is ending pretty soon, when factoring in BW2. The eagerness to show BW2 in the rest of the worlds certainly sends some signals that they want to speed up the process.

 

[CrackFox]

But the region is the game really. Same Pokemon, with some ones from other regions thrown in. Some new characters and legendary's wont constitute a new game. They haven't even bothered to clean it up so it's up to date with the 3DS system. The graphics will still be below par. You can bet Gen 6 will be a different story.

 

[Faye Scarlet]

BW came out late 2009 in Japan.

Uhh, no. They came out in late 2010.

Ack, thanks for the correction! 8D; I was still waking up when I posted that.

Multiple reasons. The anime is very near to the League and if they decided to make a little ark afterwards, it generally doesn't last very long. They're probably already penning the next Gen. BW2 is a rehash, like Pokemon Platinum was to DP. It wont have taken very long to knock out since it's just the milking of BW for all it's worth. I think the writers have definitely started planning the next gen.

B2W2 are more like GSC, only they're direct sequels. They're wrapping up Unova's story, in time for Gen VI.

But the region is the game really. Same Pokemon, with some ones from other regions thrown in. Some new characters and legendary's wont constitute a new game. They haven't even bothered to clean it up so it's up to date with the 3DS system. The graphics will still be below par. You can bet Gen 6 will be a different story.

If that was the case, then GSC are the laziest games of Pokemon. :/ The same region doesn't mean it's all bad news. It'll be a new story, and it will have stuff BW didn't have, like the World Tournament thingy. And the DS graphics never looked bad. For the DS, they look very great. You need to have patience for a 3DS main Pokemon game bro.

 

[Pidgeot]

Firstly, if Gen V did carry on another couple of years to cater for the RS remakes, it would still have to be for the DS. A generation can't start on one system and carry on on the next.

As most people have said, the RS remakes are mostly likely to come after the main paired versions of Gen VI. As much as I love the idea of RS remakes, I think the longer it takes to get remakes, the better. Say we got RS remakes right now for the DS, it wouldn't be such a drastic remake. But if we got it for the 3DS, the graphics would be more different, there could be more features added in, etc., than if they were released right now for the DS.

Now, I've got to admit, when Gen V first started, I thought it would go with a paired versions, third version, and remakes, set-up, just like with Gen III and IV. But, as soon as BW2 were revealed, I think it was pretty evident Game Freak wouldn't go with the same set-up again. As for Gen VI's set-up - I think it'll probably go paired versions, sequels, and remakes, just like with Gen V. And as I said before, the longer Game Freak wait to do the RS remakes, the bigger the impact they'll have.

 

[Joshawott]

Here's why I believe Generation V is going to end next year:

First off, Pokémon Black Version 2 and Pokémon White Version 2 were announced for the Nintendo DS console, despite the 3DS having been out for a year at the time of announcement. This shows me that GameFreak are planning on ending this generation on the Nintendo DS, otherwise they would have announced them for the 3DS. This is further supported by the games being released in June in Japan, as opposed to the usual September-November period. Why was this? So the games can be launched internationally in 2012 as well. Nintendo could get away with releasing a Nintendo DS game in 2012, but not in 2013.

Then we take a look at the anime - both Keldeo and Meloetta are receiving a spotlight this year and were revealed in quick succession. Why? Probably because The Pokémon Company are trying to rush all of the Mythical Pokémon out before the next generation. After the events related to Meloetta's Sparkling Recital and Kyurem VS The Sacred Swordsman Keldeo that leaves Genesect. I'm willing to put money on next year's movie featuring Genesect and a Generation VI Pokémon. Also, the pace of the anime series - Ash already has 7 badges (with his 8th badge being earned later this week). Sure we have the Junior Cup arc and the whole East Unova thing happening, but combine that with the league and I doubt they could stretch it out for more than another year.

As for why can't Generation VI start with Ruby and Sapphire remakes? Because frankly, that would be stupid. New generations are just as much about a brand new region, with a brand new cast of characters than they are about new Pokémon. You can't just take Hoenn's story and throw in 100+ new Pokémon and you definitely can't throw in a brand new region, new characters and new Pokémon on top of that. I do believe RS remakes will happen, but that they will happen after a new pair of games for the 3DS.

In short, I agree with @The Outrage;

 

[SinCosTan]

Does that mean Gen V will be the shortest Gen since RBY?

 

[The Outrage]

http://serebii.net/genesect.jpg

Another (unconfirmed) nail on the coffin:

A sale sheet has recently come up on 2ch detailing a couple of guides due for release this summer. One of these is listed as the "Perfect National Pokédex". Due for release on August 11th, the sale sheet lists the guide as, as well as including a Serial Code for a Pokémon with Hidden Abilities on the Global Link, being a Pokédex for all Pokémon from #001-649, with a special emphasis on the inclusion of Keldeo, Meloetta and finally, the last of the unreleased Mythical Pokémon, Genesect. It is currently unclear whether or not this is an accidental oversight or a hint of a reveal of Genesect in Japan this summer. It's completely unconfirmed that this means Genesect is coming, but is worthy of posting.

 

[The Knights of Wario Land]

It's all because everyone on the internet is paranoid every second.

5th Gen isn't ending any time soon, there's still so much stuff that hasn't been released.

 

[Saiga]

It's all because everyone on the internet is paranoid every second.

5th Gen isn't ending any time soon, there's still so much stuff that hasn't been released.

So much stuff? There's basically Genesect unaccounted for and that's it. And if you take a gander at the post above yours, it looks like that's about to change.