Why doesn't TPCI upload the English dub episodes to YouTube?

[PokeDot517]

TPCI has been together with Cartoon Network for years to have the English dub episodes on their network but...

With how big YouTube and just in general the Internet is and constantly growing wouldn't it be a more profitable and convenient idea to just have the episodes on YouTube and addition with Cartoon Network or only YouTube.

I mean the English dub would finally get much longer openings because CN cuts the length to 30 seconds so that would nice and their official YouTube account gets hundreds of thousands to a few million of views for their videos does that compare CN's ratings?

Or maybe my idea isn't thought out enough and I'm missing something...

 

[uncutpokemon]

A better question is why don't the simulcast subbed episodes on their website (or maybe crunchyroll?) like good dubbing companies do? But as for the youtube thing, it's probably a licensing issue.

 

[Ryu Taylor]

A better question is why don't the simulcast subbed episodes on their website (or maybe crunchyroll?) like good dubbing companies do? But as for the youtube thing, it's probably a licensing issue.

Or the Pokemon App might have something to do with it. Or whichever of those apps has Pokemon anime episodes on it.

 

[Nicolas721]

Because they can make you pay of them in iTunes.

 

[Dogasu]

or only YouTube.

That wouldn't be wise. As of May of this year there are still about 2.1 million people in the U.S. who still have dial-up Internet connections. That's not a huge number compared to the 70% or so of the population who's on broadband at the moment but it's still not a negligible number. There are also those who don't have any Internet whatsoever, either because they can't afford it or because they live in an area that's too rural.

Also I'm sure whatever contract TPCI has with OLM / TV-Tokyo doesn't permit them to just post the show on any streaming website they want.

 

[Hidden Mew]

A better question is why don't the simulcast subbed episodes on their website (or maybe crunchyroll?) like good dubbing companies do? But as for the youtube thing, it's probably a licensing issue.

I think that's because demand for legal Pokemon subs is practically nonexistent. There clearly are people who would like to see that, but definitely not enough to make subbing hundreds of episodes worthwhile for TPCI. It might be too expensive to get rights to the original music and voice actors too.

As for the question, making the show YouTube only really wouldn't be a good idea. As Dogasu pointed out, there are many people who either have dial-up Internet or no Internet at all for various reasons, so making the show online exclusive would be a step backwards and potentially lose more of its audience. Putting the episodes on YouTube after they've aired would be a better idea since it wouldn't completely replaced the Cartoon Network airings. They might not want to do that when doing so would mean having potentially hundreds of episodes on their channel and that might make things more difficult for their channel. They have to constantly change the episodes on Pokemon.com every week or so, so I imagine that maintaining the videos for hundreds of episodes would be tricky for their YouTube channel. Plus, having people pay for the episode on iTunes probably gives them more money than views on YouTube would anyway.

 

[uncutpokemon]

I think that's because demand for legal Pokemon subs is practically nonexistent. There clearly are people who would like to see that, but definitely not enough to make subbing hundreds of episodes worthwhile for TPCI. It might be too expensive to get rights to the original music and voice actors too.

I'm not so sure about nonexistent, and as for getting the rights to do it, I shouldn't be surprised that they're too cheap to do something good for once. They must really hate making fans happy for some reason.

As for the question, making the show YouTube only really wouldn't be a good idea. As Dogasu pointed out, there are many people who either have dial-up Internet or no Internet at all for various reasons, so making the show online exclusive would be a step backwards and potentially lose more of its audience. Putting the episodes on YouTube after they've aired would be a better idea since it wouldn't completely replaced the Cartoon Network airings. They might not want to do that when doing so would mean having potentially hundreds of episodes on their channel and that might make things more difficult for their channel. They have to constantly change the episodes on Pokemon.com every week or so, so I imagine that maintaining the videos for hundreds of episodes would be tricky for their YouTube channel. Plus, having people pay for the episode on iTunes probably gives them more money than views on YouTube would anyway.

You forgot to mention the backlash they would face from the fans if they made the show online exclusive. After all, it was such a great idea when Nickelodeon decided to do that with Korra.

 

[Hidden Mew]

I'm not so sure about nonexistent, and as for getting the rights to do it, I shouldn't be surprised that they're too cheap to do something good for once. They must really hate making fans happy for some reason.

The demand for legal Pokemon subs is so small, at least from what I've seen online, that it might as well be nonexistent. I wouldn't say that they hate making fans happy, but I don't hate the dub or TPCI with a passion either. I'm not sure if I'd say that they're too cheap to get the rights either. Whether or not you like TPCI, they are a business and they do want to make a profit. They aren't going to spend a lot of money on subs if they don't think it would be worthwhile for them. Spending more money than what you could gain back would be considered waste of time, money and resources, which companies generally try to avoid doing if at all possibile. That's not necessarily being cheap. That's just running a business.

You forgot to mention the backlash they would face from the fans if they made the show online exclusive. After all, it was such a great idea when Nickelodeon decided to do that with Korra.

There is that possibility as well. Admittedly, I'm not sure if the backlash for Pokemon becoming online exclusive would be as big as what happened to Korra due to how Korra has a more vocal older fanbase than I think the Pokemon anime does, but it probably wouldn't be received as a good thing for a lot of fans either.

 

[Ryu Taylor]

The demand for legal Pokemon subs is so small, at least from what I've seen online, that it might as well be nonexistent. I wouldn't say that they hate making fans happy, but I don't hate the dub or TPCI with a passion either. I'm not sure if I'd say that they're too cheap to get the rights either. Whether or not you like TPCI, they are a business and they do want to make a profit. They aren't going to spend a lot of money on subs if they don't think it would be worthwhile for them. Spending more money than what you could gain back would be considered waste of time, money and resources, which companies generally try to avoid doing if at all possibile. That's not necessarily being cheap. That's just running a business.

Running a business in a smart way that'll keep them functioning, that is. After all, the anime dub is not all TPCi is in charge of.

 

[Galactic_V]

or only YouTube.

That wouldn't be wise. As of May of this year there are still about 2.1 million people in the U.S. who still have dial-up Internet connections. That's not a huge number compared to the 70% or so of the population who's on broadband at the moment but it's still not a negligible number. There are also those who don't have any Internet whatsoever, either because they can't afford it or because they live in an area that's too rural.

Also I'm sure whatever contract TPCI has with OLM / TV-Tokyo doesn't permit them to just post the show on any streaming website they want.

Really? And me thinking here the US'd have almost no problems with structure and all...
People from my born country usually complain about how internet services there're awful and expensive, and how only a few places has good internet (my family's from one of those fortunetaly), the same people consider America a god-like place with no problems whatsoever... (I never fall for it, just saying...)

 

[Dogasu]

The U.S. is a huge country. Updating the infrastructure to provide everyone in the country with high-speed Internet access is an extremely expensive, complicated process that'll probably take another decade or two.

 

[ArvAl]

I'm just gonna get deep dark here.

In my country, netizens wouldn't want to watch every episodes whether it's Pokemon or other animes with cash and packed data sacrificed. So, people will try any means and ways to get it for free and downloadable. (Maybe part of this reason is because Wi-Fis are very minor for singular use).

Uploading official episodes to YT won't be a good idea, because once it's uploaded, people would try to watch it offline, and it is very dangerous since it violates copyrights. I prefer TPCi to stay putting those full clips on their public websites rather than global websites like YouTube or other viral sites.

 

[Snowy]

90% of youtubers use adblockers. A youtuber using an adblocker is no more profitable to them than someone that pirates the episode.

A year or so ago, one of my favourite gaming channels did a commentary on youtube and adblockers and how it effects their profits. As it is directly relevant to this thread, I'll see if I can find it.

 

[PokémonGamer]

It's because then TPCi wouldn't be making any money from it, and people would be watching it for free. On iTunes and Amazon, they can make you pay for the episodes.

 

[Galactic_V]

The U.S. is a huge country. Updating the infrastructure to provide everyone in the country with high-speed Internet access is an extremely expensive, complicated process that'll probably take another decade or two.

I'm aware of that, pretty expensive that is. Funny how the government of my born country promised they'd provide the whole place with high-speed internet by 2020... This one's also huge, btw (the 5th place with the biggest population in the world I wonder?)

Anyway... Doesn't Niconico have a paid section where you can basically watch a ton of anime? Sometime ago I was interested in watching one that's pretty unpopular and not very known worldwide (called Fortune Dogs, I loved this one as a child), but couldn't find any way to see it either legally or illegally... Then I spotted this Niconico section with every episode available for a price (l I think it's region-blocked, not really sure...)