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Why is the Sinnoh arc reviving so many old plots and characters?
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Ampharos King
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Fanservice for the older fans.
I partially believe that it is because the writers can't think up any more fillers, so they rehash plotlines from the older episodes.
I partially believe that it is because the writers can't think up any more fillers, so they rehash plotlines from the older episodes.
I think it's pretty obvious the reason is combination of all that:
1. 10th anniversary
2. The fact they have more than ever to reference now, as we already have more than 600 eps
3. The writers are clearly improving with the time, I guess they realized continuity is a good thing
4. For new fans who didn't watch these old eps
5. For old fans who will go OMG NOSTALGIA over these things
1. 10th anniversary
2. The fact they have more than ever to reference now, as we already have more than 600 eps
3. The writers are clearly improving with the time, I guess they realized continuity is a good thing
4. For new fans who didn't watch these old eps
5. For old fans who will go OMG NOSTALGIA over these things
I think it's cos they're trying to redo a lot of the older stuff but do it in a better light.
Ash gave away a large percentage of his old Pokemon, now I may be speaking too quickly here, seeing as there's fan speculation he may give away his Gliscor soon but here goes.
Ash released his fully evolved Pigeot and has never seen it since, now he has a level 3 bird type Staraptor and its definitely not going anywhere. Same goes for Monferno who we can surely say will become an Infernape. Ash gave away his fully evolved fire type, and his Primeape, now he's going to have a fire monkey! Call it coincidental but I think its linked.
Theres also been the re-introduction of trades and the releasing of Pokemon, two things we haven't seen since Johto.
I think they're trying to undo some damage, though not everyone will obviously be pleased. Hey! We got an evil Togepi!
Ash gave away a large percentage of his old Pokemon, now I may be speaking too quickly here, seeing as there's fan speculation he may give away his Gliscor soon but here goes.
Ash released his fully evolved Pigeot and has never seen it since, now he has a level 3 bird type Staraptor and its definitely not going anywhere. Same goes for Monferno who we can surely say will become an Infernape. Ash gave away his fully evolved fire type, and his Primeape, now he's going to have a fire monkey! Call it coincidental but I think its linked.
Theres also been the re-introduction of trades and the releasing of Pokemon, two things we haven't seen since Johto.
I think they're trying to undo some damage, though not everyone will obviously be pleased. Hey! We got an evil Togepi!
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Because it has been going on WAAAAAAY too long and they're running out of plot ideas.
Ash only ever released 4 Pokemon out of his 20 captures. How is that a "large percentage?"
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HAHA i so agree
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Raticate(Traded Away to get Butterfree back)
Butterfree
Primeape
Haunter(For most who count him)
Pidgeot
Lapras
Charizard
Squirtle
Beedrill
Larvitar(For some fans who count him)
Aipom (Traded for Buizel)
That is eleven... 12 if you wish to count the briefly caught Seaking from the fishing contest episode... and he's caught more than 20...
Caterpie
Pidgeotto
Bulbasaur
Charmander
Squirtle
Krabby
Raticate (Received in a trade)
Primeape
Haunter (Not Counted by Some)
Muk
Tauros
Lapras
Snorlax
Heracross
Chikorita
Cyndaquil
Totodile
Noctowl
Beedrill
Seaking (Caught and released in the same episode) (Most don't count it)
Phanpy (Hatched)
Larvitar (Hatched) (Not counted by Some)
Taillow
Treecko
Corphish
Torkoal
Snorunt
Aipom
Starly
Turtwig
Chimchar
Buizel (Received in a Trade)
Gligar
He's caught 32... although if you remove the three not all count and the two trades that is 27... and if you count all 30 Tauros as seperate catches thats between 62 or 57 depending on what you count as a catch...
Who cares or counts one-episode-only Poké
That's 1 - and it had a good reason to leave and also introduced us to the idea and gave us one of the earliest emotional eps
2 - and this one was pretty stupid
It was never Ash's, I don't care what anyone says, he couldn't "release" what was never his own (I also hate how some fans think it belongs to Sabrina now just because it stood there with her at the end, it probably went back it its friends)
3 - and again at least plot wise it was for a good reason, I do wise we'd see a little more of it as a Pidgeot but it's no big deal
4 - though Ash did from the very beginning promised to return it to its family/friends... and it IS the right thing to do, not to mention we even got to see it again so there's really nothing to complain about this one
He can call these two whenever he wants (well, at least in Kanto/Johto, don't know if they can come to other regions as they always come all the way by themselves and not sent to him)
One-episode-only, again - doesn't count
Don't care, it wasn't his own
He just befriended it and took care of it for a while when he delivered it to wherever it was
5 - though that too was for a good reason + I don't know if to count it since he did get another Poké for it...
So that's maximum of 5 "releases"
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Who cares why, I'm just happy that they are. Hopefully some day they'll do some thing with that GS ball, I know Cerebii was supposed to be in it. They can do things a little different though, that and Ash father is some thing fans have been dying to know about.
How the heck is legitimate trade a "release?" Who gives a crap about that Raticate Ash had for 1 minute of an episode?
Ash never captured Haunter or Larvitar. I don't know where people got this idea from.
Since when did Ash release Charizard or Squirtle? I never saw that happen, and I watched every episode of Johto.
As for Beedrill, I couldn't care less. He caught it to win the competition, not to keep.
Keep in mind everyone, Pokémon no longer makes a huge deal about acquiring all possible monsters. This is reflected in the anime where Ash no longer wishes to really "catch them all", and they've even dropped the catchphrase from later Pokémon media.
It doesn't matter anymore how many creatures Ash acquires, his only concern is to work with the ones in his care to make them the best they can be.
It doesn't matter anymore how many creatures Ash acquires, his only concern is to work with the ones in his care to make them the best they can be.
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They're recycling so much old material, but I still have yet to see Misty appear in DP.
Which sucks badly. D:
Which sucks badly. D:
She appeared in the form of a lure and in the opening. She last appeared in a speaking role over 5 years and 220 episodes ago back in 2005.
Weedle Mchairybug
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1 minute onscreen in his party, you mean? In regards to the episode as a whole, it took almost half of an episode between being traded to Ash and being traded back to the gentleman trainer.
Ehhh... yeah, in regards to Haunter, you might have to tell that to both Ash and Sabrina in Haunter vs. Kadabra, both lingual versions, or better yet, Dogasu:
Considering how even the Japanese version acknowledged it as Ash's Pokemon (not to mention Sabrina, who not only is a gym leader, and thus would know which counts as a capture or not, but can also rip people's memories out to see if they are indeed accurate, even stated that it's Ash's pokemon), that makes Ash's Haunter as authentically his pokemon as Pikachu, Charmander, Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Pidgeotto are, poke ball or not.
As for Larvitar, other than the fact that he used it in a battle, among other things, the mere fact that Spurt would even include it among his other pokemon would imply that it was legitimately Ash's pokemon as well.
While technically not a release as much as "oaking" them at a different location to hone their skills, Charizard and Squirtle's leaves were in "Charizard's Burning Ambition" and "The Fire-ring Squad", respectively.
Fine, with Beedril, that can pass.
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Yeah you don't use a wild Pokemon for a gym battle.
Ash: Hey Groudon I'm having a match with Volkner, it'd be neat if you could help me out.
*Later*
Volkner- Alright you got lucky so far, now here's my powerful Electivire.
Ash: Electivire huh? Okay you can come out now.
*Groudon rams into the Gym and roars*
Yeah it just doesn't happen.
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If it was a wild pokemon, I'm pretty sure that Sabrina would not have explicitly said that it was a caught pokemon in both the Japanese and English versions. Don't believe me? Ask Dogasu.
Ash was planning to battle with it, but it never happened and Haunter just tagged along like Jigglypuff.
Keep in mind this is early Kanto here too.
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Yeah but he used it for the "sole" purpose of using it in the gym battle. No other "wild" Pokemon has that honor.
And the only reason why Ash didn't use Haunter, is because Haunter realized it was part poison therefore weak against Psychic attacks. So if Haunter wasn't a chicken he would have used it.
Maybe so. And if it did battle properly but STILL stayed with Sabrina at the end, I still wouldn't consider it Ash's Pokemon.
Ash battled with Larvitar and Brock's Lombre, and I think he even told that Spoink to do some attacks too. Because something is or was meant to be in a Gym battle doesn't make any difference.
The Spurt opening doesn't include Haunter or Beedrill on Ash's roster of old Pokemon, and Larvitar is shown with its mother rather than with Ash's older Pokemon, so its clearly obvious what the writers want us to think.
Fans need to stop making up their own rules, and go with what the writers, who actually create canon, want us to think.