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Why didn't Rayquaza appear in that ep where Groudon and Kyogre fight I'm thinking maybe they just forgot or something but if anyone knows anything please tell me

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Because...it didn't? The anime followed the Ruby and Sapphire story, not the changes Emerald made.

Besides, Emerald had just been released in Japan a month before these episodes aired.
 
'Cause they screwed up those episodes big-time, that's why.

Sketch said:
Besides, Emerald had just been released in Japan a month before these episodes aired.
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If anything, that should have been all the more reason for them to follow Emerald's storyline. This show is all about promoting the video games, and here's the most recent game at the time that centers around the very event the anime is about to depict. Seems obvious to me!
 
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Jesse GS the II said:
If anything, that should have been all the more reason for them to follow Emerald's storyline. This show is all about promoting the video games, and here's the most recent game at the time that centers around the very event the anime is about to depict. Seems obvious to me!
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If only you were aware of the fact that this is NOT how the anime works. It can't just change the plot instantly.
 
They have episodes planned out weeks, possibly months in advance, they can't easily just change major plot points just to promote the newest game.

Heck, they still do it even now. Look at the most recent japanese episode. Did Giratina or the Torn World have any involvement in that plot? No...
 
Yeah, but the anime's production company obviously stays in touch with Game Freak. Seems to me that they'd get stuff like the games' basic plotlines well before the release date, so that they could build an arc out of it.
 
Jesse GS the II said:
For all we know, maybe they were planning to do a Groudon/Kyogre/Rayquaza climactic battle, but then they wrote Rayquaza vs. Deoxys in the seventh movie and basically shot themselves in the foot again.
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Giving legendaries multiple appearances in the movies and then in the anime is something they did all along.

So I doubt that is it.
 
Scott85 said:
Giving legendaries multiple appearances in the movies and then in the anime is something they did all along.

So I doubt that is it.
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Yeah, I realized that theory didn't work shortly after I said it.

I dunno, it's just one of those mysteries. Every time I think I've got the anime figured out, they go and confound me again.
 
Sketch said:
Because...it didn't? The anime followed the Ruby and Sapphire story, not the changes Emerald made.

Besides, Emerald had just been released in Japan a month before these episodes aired.
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If that was the case, they shouldn't have included Juan in the first place, and should have stuck with Wallace, since, you know, Juan was in Emerald, not RS, and Wallace was GL in RS, not champion.
 
A pokemon as awesome as Rayquaza deserves a whole movie. 3 legendaries in a span of 2 episodes would have diminished each pokeon's importance. If Rayquaza were included, it probably would have appeared half through the 2nd episode which wouldn't have done it proper justice.
 
Weedle Mchairybug said:
If that was the case, they shouldn't have included Juan in the first place, and should have stuck with Wallace, since, you know, Juan was in Emerald, not RS, and Wallace was GL in RS, not champion.
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maybe they knew about adding Juan for a long time, but didn't know for sure what they were exactly going to do with Rayquaza.
 
Ranger Mike said:
A pokemon as awesome as Rayquaza deserves a whole movie. 3 legendaries in a span of 2 episodes would have diminished each pokeon's importance. If Rayquaza were included, it probably would have appeared half through the 2nd episode which wouldn't have done it proper justice.
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I disagree. I think Rayquaza should've had no real part in Destiny Deoxys. To me, it just seemed like it was there to be there, that they needed to include Rayquaza in something to show it off, kind of like how Heatran appeared in the lastest one here. There is the entire world where Deoxys could've crashed at, and an entire world where Rayquaza could be flying, and Deoxys' falling synchronizes with Rayquaza's travel pattern? A bit of a fat chance.

They should've given Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza what they deserved, not being a two-part episode. They should've given maybe a 4-parter, considering how epic the situation would've been had Groudon and Kyogre been able to roam free:

Episode 1: Everyone is found by Magma or Aqua. They descend into the Seafloor Cavern, with the other team following behind. Kyogre and Groudon are awakened.

Episode 2: Groudon and Kyogre are taken under wing by the Orbs. They eventually break free and begin their rampage. The sun begins to fight the clouds. They make their way to Sootopolis. Everyone leaves the cavern with Steven arriving on his Skarmory just as the submarine re-surfaced. Steven explains that they had to go to Sootopolis.

Episode 3: Groudon and Kyogre duel in the Cave Of Origin (Should be bigger than the games' version.), with Juan and Wallace trying to qwell the battle. Everyone arrives in Sootopolis. Wallace explains whats going on via the legend. An overworld view shows the storms/droughts reaching Johto and Kanto, like the storm in movie 2 did. The Elite Four arrive for support. The duel destroys the Cave Of Origin, moving into the lake in the middle of Sootopolis City.

Episode 4: We see all of the vantage points of major characters in other regions. Everyone attempts to halt the battle as well as they can. Near the middle-end, Rayquaza appears as if a God had come, glowing yellow as it roars. Kyogre and Groudon recede back into the depts and Rayquaza returns to the skies. The spisode ends with them looking towards sunlight.



It wasn't thought through completely, but something along those lines. Rayquaza indefinitely deserved a built-up god-like apearance.
 
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If there's one thing about this fandom, is that they still complain about things that happened well over 6+ years ago.

Seriously, we know the Groudon/Kyroge episodes weren't handled well. Does it really matter anymore? They're old as hell and its an old villain team. It doesn't matter anymore.
 
Dogasu said:
I'll be sure to bring that up the next time you complain about how horribly Misty was treated in Johto.
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Don't forget his complaints about Johto, period.

Personally, I don't think she was treated that badly in Johto. Now, Brock... that's a different story.
 
Weedle Mchairybug said:
Personally, I don't think she was treated that badly in Johto. Now, Brock... that's a different story.
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Except that no one gives a shit about Misty in this topic.

Anyway, The difference between Wallace/Juan and Rayquaza in the Groudon/Kyogre arc is that Wallace and Juan can easily be exchanged with each other. All they need to do is swap the characters, the story doesn't change.

Adding Rayquaza into the mix with the Groudon/Kyogre arc would change the story quite a bit since you would have to explain it's presence and what would happen afterward.
 
PDL said:
Adding Rayquaza into the mix with the Groudon/Kyogre arc would change the story quite a bit since you would have to explain it's presence and what would happen afterward.
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Would it reeally create that much of a problem, though?
 
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