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I love Volt Tackle it is one of my favorite techniques in the anime. However, I have noticed over the course of the DP series the move has been losing its almost unbeatable reputation. It all started with when J’s Drapion dodged it (the first time in the series that an opponent dodged the technique) and then I knew the move was going to grow old pretty soon. Moving on to his practice match with Fantina, Ominous Wind stopped the attack and Pikachu was forced back, Wake’s Flotazel used Razor Wind to stop it, and it was countered by Flint’s Infernape using Flare Blitz, Mach Punch and Thunderpunch.

The one episode where the move was focused on was Pika and Goliath! That was a great episode because it was the first time another Pokemon (Raichu) was shown to be able to use it also it was used for a combo technique (Volt Tail; Iron Tail and Volt Tackle).

With the Sinnoh League around the corner, it seems Pikachu needs some more attacks in its arsenal. Quick Attack is good for dodging, but appears to be not doing too much damage anymore as shown in some battles (Sho’s Raichu, Flint’s Infernape, and Paul’s Urasring). Thunderbolt is decent, but has grown old due to TR in every episode. The only new move is Counter Shield but still its just a variation of Thunderbolt. Iron Tail is the only move that appears to be a keeper well it was the last move learned since Hoenn.

Let’s look at it this way, Iron Tail was learned in the Hoenn region, and Volt Tackle was learned during the BF. However, it hasn’t learned anything new for about 4 season now (BF through DP seasons 1-3), I think it needs something new in order to prove itself a vital member of Ash’s team (though it has throughout the series). A new move may come around for Pikachu in the Sinnoh region, this region is almost over so it is unlikely but needed.

What do you say does Pikachu need something new?
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

He beat a frickin' Regice. Any new move is obsolete.

(I'm now conveniently forgetting that the battle between the two was a fluke).

Even so, what move besides Thunderpunch could he learn? Feint?
 
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I don't see why they NEED anything new for Pikachu. It's his only Pokemon to make it all 13 years without getting Oak'd. You don't spend 13 years with a Pokemon only to have it suck.( yeah yeah yeah, writer's will and all that jazz. Don't care.)

If they really just WANTED to, they could have Pikachu learn a move it'll have in the Gen V games.
 
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If there were a better move for it to learn, but there isn't. They stick with having 4 moves, and I can't really see it replacing any of those moves either. Quick Attack and definitely Thunderbolt are like old standbys. They made a big deal of it learning iron tail, and it uses it pretty frequently now, so i don't think it would forget it. And Volt Tackle's the super special Pikachu move, so it won't forget that.
 
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In some of the later DP episodes Thunderbolt seems to take on the form of Discharge in some scenes (not the color though)for example when it used Thunderbolt along with Piplup's Bubblebeam to attack J's henchmen while on the way to the temple in Snowpoint. Maybe a new move is on the way in the new series who knows?
 
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I think Pikachu has a large potential to learn a new move. But there are two possibilities for this move. First, it could be a move that could become a move used frequently like THunderbolt. If its this, the most likely candidate for it would be the move Charge Beam because it could be used during the battle with Volkner and inspire Ash to train Pikachu with it. Second, it could replace Volt Tackle as a powerful finishing move. If this is the option the only moves that could fit have not been created yet but they could be an electric equivalent of Hyper Beam or an electric equivalent of Overheat.
 
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Perhaps. I'm thinking Return would be a suitable move.
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

Maybe Pikachu could learn Grass Knot? (it could forget Quick Attack)
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

This quote expresses exactly what I feel when I try to think of a new move.

I already made the death clock! I'll have to invent something new within the next five minuites: perhaps some kind of Death Clock!

But an idea that occurs to me is Zap Cannon. While looking at the episode pics on serebii.net, I thought that in the Windworks episode Pikachu could be seen using Zap Cannon on the Mecha Macargo. Appearently I was mistaken, but it still has great potential!
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

or he could jsut start using thunder again. i mean come on, what happened to thunder, or as a matter fact, what happened to double team, and double edge?
 
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I don't see why they NEED anything new for Pikachu. It's his only Pokemon to make it all 13 years without getting Oak'd. You don't spend 13 years with a Pokemon only to have it suck.( yeah yeah yeah, writer's will and all that jazz. Don't care.)

That's not 100% true. When Ash battled Gary at the Silver Conference, it was a 6 on 6 battle and Ash didn't use Pikachu, so he technically had to have taken it out of his party. It's just that he left it with his peers who were right there with him.
 
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If anything, Pikachu should just learn some new Gen V move.
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

Zap Cannon or a gen V move maybe, but not as a replacement to the signature move of Pikachu.
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

Eh, just replace Quick Attack or something. Iron Tail, Thunderbolt, and Volt Tackle are here to stay, though.
 
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Bah! I was hoping for at least Grass Knot for Pikachu in this series, along with Substitute and Focus Punch, but lazy production is lazy as always. Mud-Slap can be a given since evading moves can be inputted. No new ability that fits the yellow rat's fighting style also bothers me as well.
 
Re: Will Pikachu learn a new move for the Sinnoh League because it seems Volt Tackle

We have had this argument in another thread. The writers just wanted to give Pika a harder time this region for whatever reason. Probably to remind us that he ISN'T infallible. I don't think he needs a new move, they give Pika enough power as it is. Besides, power is clearly not their goal, otherwise they wouldn't have trashed the Thunderstone for good. Pika is as strong as he's ever going to be. Unless they give Pika a cool new movie in B/W, we won't see anything new from Pika at all, if that is what they want to do. It won't make any difference because our friend the reset button rules all.
 
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I am kinda disapointed it didn't get a new move this region, If anything it lost a move, Thunder which to my knowledge hasn't been used since the battle with Regice.
 
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I am kinda disapointed it didn't get a new move this region, If anything it lost a move, Thunder which to my knowledge hasn't been used since the battle with Regice.

Actually if I'm not mistaken it lost it long before then I think it last used Thunder when Phanpy evolved, but whenever Pikachu fully learned Volt Tackle it just stopped using it.

I feel like a non normal quick attack type attack would be best, maybe learning a fighting type version (a new one not the ones which exist already).

Otherwise unless something replaces thunderbolt in usability quick attack is probably the only ability to get replaced (true Thunder has more power, but it loses in PP and Accuracy) unless there's a fighting type iron tail next gen that Pikachu conveniently learns in the games and having a fighting type move in Pikachu's arsenal makes it even greater threat, since fighting covers what steel is super effective against and more. The only dual typed Pokemon Pikachu would need to worry about is possibly a ground/ghost Pokemon (but Ash has 5 other Pokemon to worry about that one and it doesn't exist yet).
 
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Maybe he'll learn focus punch or thunderpunch, or then another new move from gen. 5. Too bad he doesnt learn surf or fly though xD.
 
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Volt tackle is good. What other move should pikachu learn? Pikachu must be at level 100 by now, right? It's not pikachu's fault for losing a couple times... it's Ashs. Maybe Ash should stop sitting on his ash, and give pikachu a light ball or something. Cmon man
 
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