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Would the anime be diffrent if PUSA/TPCi took control of the anime since the start?

John Understands

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What I mean is, as you know, until AG142, 4Kids took control of the english translation until Battle Frontier, when PUSA took control of the anime. But how different would the anime if PUSA was under control of the anime from "Pokemon! I Choose You!" until the end of the anime.
 
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People would readjust their nostalgia goggles because then the PUSA voices would have been the original cast and people would have considered those the "good voices."
 
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I think a major problem would be exposure to the show. For better or worse (the much heavier editing for one), being on Kids WB got Pokemon as a whole far more widely known than had the show been stuck on cable for the whole time or shuffled around in syndication like it was initially, which it probably would have been without 4kids.

I know you're mainly probably going to be thinking about in show differences, but I just can't imagine a company with no anime/cartoon experience like PUSA could have handled the dub from the beginning and achieved the same degree of success that the early seasons did.

If PUSA did it from the start, we might not even have a dub right now.
 
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If PUSA did it from the start, we would not have those epic long intros anymore. :(
 
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Has anyone considered that if TPCi had dubbed it from the beginning, they might of used some, if not all, of the original voice actors. Because remember, voice actors like Sarah Natochenny, Michele Knotz and Bill Rogers weren't working as Voice Actors in 1998, so we might still of got Veronica Taylor, Rachael Lillis and Eric Stuart to be the voices and without the need for the Voice Actors switch, still have them today.
 
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This is a more difficult question than if 4kids was still working on it. I do not believe the anime's image was entirely 4kids' fault. I think it was more the machinations of whatever became PUSA. Therefore, I don't think it's possible to avoid the matter that pokemon was marketed the way it was back then, and thus also the way the anime was presented. As for how the voices would be handled, we first have to address that you seem to have forgotten that 4kids WAS hired by PUSA originally to dub the anime, so in effect, this question is pointless since you would have the same result. I assume you mean if 4kids was not hired. That would have to depend on who the alternatives were, which historically, I don't know what other dubbing companies existed at that point in time, nor entirely what their reputation was.
 
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People would readjust their nostalgia goggles because then the PUSA voices would have been the original cast and people would have considered those the "good voices."
Plz elaborate.
 
Re: Would the anime be diffrent if PUSA/TPCi took control of the anime since the star

Plz elaborate.

Because if the PUSA voices were the ones everyone heard first, there would be nobody to compare them to.

For that matter, its quite obvious Sarah wouldn't voice Ash back in 1998. For those who don't know, Sarah was only 18 when she began voicing Ash in Battle Frontier in 2006. So back in 1998 Sarah was only.....11 years old...lol.
 
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- It is possible that more of the original music score in certain episodes would have been kept than what was done by 4Kids. I say "possible" because TPCI/PUSA did replace a lot of the original score in DP, but it was not as much as 4Kids had done during Johto or AG. I believe that more of Johto and AG's soundtrack might have been kept if TPCI had full reign over the dub initially.

- There would potentially not be any Pikachu's Jukebox, Gold and Silver Jukebox, Who's That Pokemon?, or Trainer's Choice segments. Even if TPCI does have the WTP for Black and White, there is no guarantee that they would have included it from the very beginning of the series had they dubbed it that far back.

- Speaking of Trainer's Choice, PUSA would most likely not make the mistakes that 4Kids' writing staff had made when they constructed these segments.

- The voices for a lot of the characters might have been different. Sarah Natochenny would have been too young to be casted as Ash's voice actor if TPCI had dubbed the anime near the beginning of the series. Some of the 4Kids voice actors have switched over to the TPCI cast, but we would not know if the independent voice actors that eventually worked under 4Kids when Pokemon was dubbed would have even be affiliated with the series if TPCI dubbed it at the start.
 
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I think the anime wouldn't have been as bad as it is now...4kids did ruined the anime badly :(

but on the other hand we wouldn't have these AWESOME themes and songs,and the lugia flute music :),I don't think the anime would have been that popular at the time it came out.
 
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Weren't like first 4 seasons dubbed for 4kids by Taj Productions? Same company that did seasons 9-10? That means voices wouldn't change a bit, and possibly VT&co. would be kept for seasons 9+. Possibly less senseless cutting in seasons 4-8, more JP music (but much worse english cues would stand out more than not-so-bad 4kids ones).

I don't think the show would change THAT much, though.
 
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I think that we'd be in about the same position we are in now, to be honest. There probably wouldn't have been as many errors as 4Kids made (like calling Pokemon the wrong names in the 1st movie), but it's not like the show would be very different thematically.

If PUSA/TCPi had dubbed from the beginning, though, I don't think we'd have Sarah Natochenny voicing Ash today (which would be a shame, because I think she's quite good now). Most everyone else has the potential to still be on the show though, I suppose.

We can say that the early seasons of the show would've been better had 4Kids not dubbed them, but there's really no way to know for sure. Certainly they made some mistakes, but hindsight is always 20/20. That said, it'd be interesting to see an alternate universe where PUSA/TCPi DID indeed dub the anime from the beginning...
 
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They would've prolly sold it to Funimation right now :D

On a serious note, if TPCI was there from the start, they would be considered "decent" instead of "turruble"
 
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I got one. No Pokemon Trainers Choice and none of that infamous Arbok evolves into Seviper mistake.
 
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we still would have veronica taylor because sarah natochenny would have been 10 lol
 
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As far as the music is concerned, I feel like the only reason TPCI started replacing music was because 4Kids started the trend. If they had been in charge from the beginning, they probably would have only hired someone to do the vocal songs and left the rest of the music alone.

Also, we wouldn't have any Tajirian.
 
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