Would you like to see a new TM list?

[Joshawott]

Hello Everynyan!
This thought has been on my mind for a few days now - considering that TMs are now permanent items and cannot be attached to Pokémon, this doesn't necessarily mean that Black 2/White 2's TM list will be the same as that of Black/White (in fact, I was surprised to see that they shared the same TM list in the first place). So would you like to see a new TM list in these new games? If so, what new TMs would you like to see? And what BW TMs could be given the boot?

A list of TMs (both past and present) can be found here. Also, what moves that previously haven't been TMs do you think could become TMs?

Personally, I would like to see Mimic, Curse, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch, Skill Swap, Roost, Dragon Pulse and Drain Punch returning as TMs. If we have to keep the same number of TMs as BW, I wouldn't mind GameFreak getting rid of Telekinesis, Flame Charge, Round, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Quash, Struggle Bug, Frost Breath and Snarl (or replace Pluck and actually give us Snarl xD). As for new TMs? No idea.

 

[Ranger Jack Walker]

The Gen V moves that are TMs suck. Most of them. All of them are pretty damn gimmicky. So yeah, I'd like a new TM list. I think the one in Gen IV was the best.

 

[winstein]

Since some of the Generation 5 TMs cater to or are very suitable for Doubles or Triples (Round, Ally Switch, Struggle Bug, Quash), it wouldn't hurt to have some new moves. However, the new moves should be picked with care. Dark Pulse, for example, would be great as a returning move. However, I have to say no to Roost and Stealth Rock, since that would make more Pokemon great, unless the distribution changed (for example, deny Gligar of Roost).

One move I would like to see as a TM is Icicle Crash, and put this move on most Ice-types, and a select few others (excluding non-Ice Waters). It's supposed to be a move that differentiates the Ice-types from the Water-types, and it's doing a great job so far.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Ivysaur]

I can't think of any specific moves I would want right now, since my issue is more with TM-Pokemon compatibility than with the attacks currently available (for the most part), but no matter what, don't bring back Stealth Rock.

 

[DoctorWhy]

I don't really have that much in mind, but I really do hope that the list changes. I miss some of the Gen IV TMs very much; like Dark Pulse, Dragon Pulse, Drain Punch, Iron Tail, etc. While it's not likely, I'd love to see every TM gens 3 to 5 plus a few new ones included. (Noy likely, at all)

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

Former TMs I want back: Dragon Pulse, Drain Punch, Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse, Iron Tail, and Giga Drain

My gut is telling me that the TM list will be the same as BW2 because we're still in Gen V.

 

[jokool]

I would like to see changes to the list, especially the return of Dark and Dragon Pulse, but I doubt that they would change the list mid generation (even with all the different things that have happened this generation).

 

[Faye Scarlet]

I truly want Stealth Rock back, it was the best TM ever. The Elemental Punches and Snarl would be neat, too.

 

[Mcwin]

I don't know how plausible a TM list change will be, but since the move tutors only typically appear in the third of each generation set (e.g. Emerald) and remakes, I assume that there will be move tutors this time.

But yeah, there are a few TM's that are quite useless. Quash, the hell is that?

Anyway, I want the elemental punches, Curse, Wish, Dragon Dance, and probably many more that I can't be bothered to list right now, either as TMs or tutorable moves.
Oh yeah, one more thing, I hope they don't require you to pay for tutor moves with those damn shards, that's annoying.
Battle points (from battle frontier/subway) I'd be fine with, but I'd rather you just pay with pokemoney, makes more sense, does it not? (Seriously, what do they even do with the shards?)

 

[Lord Clowncrete]

I want stealth rock and Roost back. Problem? And I hope they remove that insult called Incinerate from the tm list.

 

[Winterdaze]

While it would be nice to see favourites like Roost and Dark Pulse return, I think there should be an emphasis on new moves if they're going to change up the TM list. Except make them y'know, the new moves that are actually cool or useful (lookin' at you Quash, Incinerate and Struggle Bug >:I)

Circle Throw, Hurricane and Acid Spray would make good additions, for example.

 

[Windchild]

I want some moves that Zekrom can learn. Autotomize, Mega Punch, Blaze Kick, Dragon Rush and Accupressure would also be nice.

 

[DoctorWhy]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

No! I love Toxic.

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

No! I love Toxic.

But it's the only way for Poison types to get some use.

 

[Orion]

I wanna see Rolling Kick made into a TM.

 

[DoctorWhy]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

No! I love Toxic.

But it's the only way for Poison types to get some use.

True. But very few pokemon can learn it without the TM. I just checked Bulbapedia. Only 8 pokemon can learn Toxic by level up (not counting evolutions). So it still needs the TM.

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

No! I love Toxic.

But it's the only way for Poison types to get some use.

True. But very few pokemon can learn it without the TM. I just checked Bulbapedia. Only 8 pokemon can learn Toxic by level up (not counting evolutions). So it still needs the TM.

But GF never removes a recurring TM from a Pokemon's movepool who has it from the very beginning.

 

[DoctorWhy]

TMs I want to see gone: Round, Struggle Bug, Toxic, Smack Down, Echoed Voice, Incinerate, Pluck, Quash, Telekinesis, Embargo, Psych Up, and Snarl

No! I love Toxic.

But it's the only way for Poison types to get some use.

True. But very few pokemon can learn it without the TM. I just checked Bulbapedia. Only 8 pokemon can learn Toxic by level up (not counting evolutions). So it still needs the TM.

But GF never removes a recurring TM from a Pokemon's movepool who has it from the very beginning.

My point was that Toxic is almost only available by TM. Which means they either need to give it as a level up move to more pokemon (if the TM is done away with), make it a move tutor move, shorten the list of pokemon that can learn it, or keep it as is.

 

[Zistal]

I'd like to see Quiver Dance become a TM, and be given near-exclusively to Bug types.

Specially-oriented guys like Galvantula and Yanmega would just love to have it...

 

[JohnnyCool708]

We totally need Water Sport as a TM so we can weaken fire's power and reminisce on ignoring stat moves as little kids.
Most definitely.

In all seriousness, Drill Peck would be a welcome addition in that it would allow flying types to get good physical attacks in without having to slit their wrists because we are all using that beast Xatu Drill Peck set.

It would work if someone would want to run a flying set without Roost, needed an extra move, or if it is unavailable in the movepool Drill Peck could find its place.