X and Y Version Differences and Exclusives

[Phoenixon]

Of course, we all know that when two versions of a Pokemon game are announced, they are similar, but they each have differences to each other.
And such is the case for X and Y; both games will have differences in their Pokemon distribution, city design, items, trainers, gym leaders, and some other stuff I can't think of now.

Additionally, we should all take note of the fact that, over the years, the differences between each version are becoming greater and greater, so much so that (if iirc) it was one of the reasons we had two sequels instead of one remake for B/W. So, how different do you want X and Y to be? I myself prefer something like D/P or R/S, just because it gives a better opportunity of having only one sequel/remake (which I assume to be Pokemon Z.)

The most common version exclusives are the box art Pokemon themselves. However, this time, the two mascots do not seem to be found in the same location (because of there different designs,) which may mean that the Version Mascots are not exclusive as we would have expected (like G/S and HG/SS.)

So, what do you think the differences between Pokemon X and Pokemon Y will be? And to what extent do you want them to be different?

 

[Team Gaara]

I agree, I prefer a kind of R/S or D/P difference between versions centered around the mascots. B/W were okay, but they were so significantly different to the point that they couldn't possibly have a third version, as you said.

Since I do prefer the third versions to sequels, I'm hoping there aren't too many significant differences between city and route designs. I don't mind the differences in battles (rotation and triple) between games. I'm not sure yet if I want both legends to be in both games, though. This is the first time that I've been really torn about which one I prefer, so I really should want them in both games. I guess it'll depend on the story.

In general, legends aside, I'm hoping they aren't that dramatically different from each other.

 

[Cuddy]

Because of the dex having 3 different areas, that means different types will live in each game. For example, for X, it might show Nidoran F, but in Y, it will show Nidoran M in one region. It can also show more legendary Pokemon in each area, like for example, Lugia and Ho-oh, might be an exclusive in a game, but not in both.

This is also true with the Elekid, Magby and Smoochum families. Each might show in each region of the dex. Another example is look at the trios we have in each region so far, and the elements of the Pokemon might be for each region.

 

[Dr. Buni]

The more version differences, the better, for me, mainly because I want sequels to XY, not an uninteresting third version (I don't understand why one would want a third version, but I think that is a subject for another thread). I am just hoping that all the Pokémon I like in Generation VI are in the same game, lol

 

[Sakuraa]

I kind of liked how in BW/BW2 some cities and routes had different apperances depending on the version. But at the same time that makes it different to determine which is canon. (Not that this is important, but it's just a small pet peeve I have). I'd be fine with simple version differences like R/S and D/P with the legendary Pokemon focus being the only main difference. However, if they decide to make more dramatic differences, I'd be fine with that too, since I found it interesting to see how greatly the gen 5 games were different. In the end, I'm only really going to be worrying about the version excusive Pokemon anyway.

 

[Bolt Strike]

The idea of having version exclusive areas was utterly genius in 5th gen, and I hope it continues this game. Maybe they could even up the ante this game and have version exclusive storyline paths (as in, one game you explore Coastal Kalos then Mountain Kalos, but in the other game you explore Mountain, then Coastal).

 

[S.S. Shadow Minun]

More version-exclusive items and locations. Or maybe version-exclusive clothes for player character.

 

[epicparker]

I like it when there are big differences, but I feel like I miss out on a lot when there are big differences because I can't buy both games. I'm poor. And I have no friends to trade with. Lol

 

[NoirGrimoir]

I want lots of version differences. I want a justification for buying two games, other than, "So I can play through it again and not lose my first save file."

 

[Zeb]

I want lots of version differences. I want a justification for buying two games, other than, "So I can play through it again and not lose my first save file."

This sooooooooooooooooooooo much. I actually had a really long-winded post typed up for this thread but this just sums all of what I was wanting to say perfectly so I can cut it down a lot now xD

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I am in favour of HUGE version differences. The more the merrier. Overload us with them. I want to feel like I need to play both versions. I want to feel like there's an actual point in them having two versions and giving us a choice of two versions, because ultimately, right now, the choices affect very little that can't be fixed through various means (version exclusive Pokemon can just be traded for, they allow the swapping of White Tree/Black Tower etc). Version differences need to be bigger and need to mean more, otherwise I don't see the point. I like the idea that's been mentioned a lot recently, of exploring the region in a different order depending on the game. That would be a decent start to it all. I also would like to see (at some point, not necessarily XY since it might be a bit much) completely version exclusive regional Pokedexes (barring the majority of "new generation mons" in their debut) since there's getting so many Pokemon now that regional dexes could be exclusive in regards to older Pokemon. For example, you could have a regional dex of 250 Pokemon with 125 of those being the all new generation and 125 old generation - so the 125 old would be completely different in both versions of the game. It would make playing through each version feel largely different (yes, even though I just said version exclusives can just be traded for, but I'm talking larger scale here than a couple of exclusive lines )

 

[Rainbow]

Version exclusive Pokemon would be okay for me. I really don't want 2 "third versions" again because I'm not rich. Buying the main two and a third is already more than enough. Playing through both Black and white completely, neither felt all that different anyways, save a for a couple locations. Not enough to warrant two sequels imo.

 

[Team Gaara]

Version exclusive Pokemon would be okay for me. I really don't want 2 "third versions" again because I'm not rich. Buying the main two and a third is already more than enough. Playing through both Black and white completely, neither felt all that different anyways, save a for a couple locations. Not enough to warrant two sequels imo.

Hope this isn't too off topic.

I personally feel that there was no way BW could have had a third version; they needed sequels to each game. Unlike other paired versions, these featured storylines that were vastly different and could not be summed up into a single version to make for the canon of that game's timeline. Opelucid City's different appearances and Gym Leader alone were enough reason for that. Also, Zekrom and Reshiram are the "heroes" of Unova depending on the version, obtained by either you or N; Kyurem isn't really related in that aspect. (Black and White are essentially two different canons in my head almost as if they are alternate universes). So I couldn't see them making a similar story with Kyurem as the mascot like they could with Giratina or Rayquaza. So they made a sequel that makes use of Kyurem instead.

That's my bad explanation for it, anyways.

 

[Rainbow]

I still feel like it the differences were...not enough. There were definitely a couple of key differences, but ehhhh. Then again, a lot of my disdain stems from having to buy another two games. I just hate the premise of it, regardless of differences.

/slight off-topicness and cheapness

 

[Ivysaur]

I don't want to buy two versions. When it comes down to that, I don't mind cosmetic or a few minor gameplay differences like exclusives, but I don't want to feel like I'm missing out if I only choose to buy X or buy Y. I don't mind a ton of differences, but I still want to feel like I'm getting a complete package with the version I buy.

But honestly, I'm not really too concerned with the version differences. I'm more worried about GameFreak withholding useful extras/additions that have already been introduced in the franchise to use them as selling points for a third version/sequels. Like the Battle Frontier, Gym Leader rematches, the PWT and most other forms of post-game content. I guess that all sort of ties into the same thing: hopefully each version has enough to offer on its own, and GameFreak doesn't compromise the overall experience by leaving stuff to try and get people to buy other versions of basically the same game.

 

[Kojo]

I've seen some people suggest that the order of the areas you go to should differ between versions. Like in X you from central Kalos -> mountain Kalos -> coastal Kalos while in Y you go central Kalos -> coastal Kalos -> mountain Kalos or something similar. I think it could be cool.

 

[Phoenixon]

The more version differences, the better, for me, mainly because I want sequels to XY, not an uninteresting third version (I don't understand why one would want a third version, but I think that is a subject for another thread). I am just hoping that all the Pokémon I like in Generation VI are in the same game, lol

The only reason I want fewer differences is to have only ONE third version, which could still be a sequel other than a remake.

But at the same time that makes it different to determine which is canon. (Not that this is important, but it's just a small pet peeve I have)

Yeah, I get super annoyed with this too. (Off topic, I still hope to have an ultimate third version sequel+remake for BW and BW2, which expands and completes the storyline and FIXES THE CANON, maybe in Gen IX.)

I see many of you want more differences. I'd actually love a lot of differences, but as long as they can still have ONE sequel (or remake.) as the only third version, not two "third" versions like B2W2. Maybe it's just cuz I want it to fix the canon... or because Z sounds cool.....

 

[El_]

As many differences as possible please, hell even make the plot different as well. Someone had the idea of a "Hoenn on steroids" and I honestly like the sound of that. I want a completely new/different experience if I get both versions, and it benefits Game Freak since people will be more inclined to buy both.

Black City/White Forest and the subtle differences between the Unova games were a start, but they can take it further. It just makes going through and exploring more worthwhile to me.

 

[Lufenium]

I loved the version differences in Black/White and I hope they continue, if not increase.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to go overboard and make the two games completely different, but I want enough differences in them to feel like both games are worth playing through.

As for a 3rd game, you could always invent a new location that combines elements of the two original places or have something new altogether.

 

[GiraFragMich]

I think they will have even more drastic differences after BW2. Not just some aesthetic thing like cities and towns, the map and split Pokedex even suggests different paths through the region depending on the version you're playing.

 

[Phoenixon]

Someone on these forums (It was a moderator, most likely either @Zeb; or @winstein had the idea of having TWO different regional dexes, to increase the amount of Pokemon there are when combining both dexes from X and Y. (Credits to this idea go to that person, and I will try explaining it like him.)
Okay, first, the dexes would not be completely different from each other, only the exclusive Pokemon found in them would be different. So, let's say there are 200 Pokemon that are unique to each dex. Then, each dex would get it's own 150 exclusives, giving each 350 Pokemon. But when you combine both dexes, you'd get a huge total of 500, so there is a good percentage of ALL Pokemon found in Kalos in both games, without having to give each game to many Pokes itself. (I think 350 would be quite okay, considering that there'll be over 700 in total, and the region looks huge and diverse enough to fit them all.)
So, I think this would be a cool idea to implement in the games. And to make it so that you can see/catch the additional Pokes from the other version, after you beat the E4 and get the National Dex, the Professor could give you a device/ability (like the PokeRadar), and with this device, you can find Pokes from the other game in yours, at the same location as you would in the other game. They shouldn't make this device to easy to use, but not too difficult either.

Anyway, do you guys think there should be a version exclusive dex as described as above?