Your favorite 2nd form starter

Which starter's 2nd form is your favorite?

  • Ivysaur

    Votes: 22 19.5%
  • Charmeleon

    Votes: 22 19.5%
  • Wartortle

    Votes: 33 29.2%
  • Bayleaf

    Votes: 29 25.7%
  • Quilava

    Votes: 45 39.8%
  • Croconaw

    Votes: 14 12.4%
  • Grovyle

    Votes: 39 34.5%
  • Combusken

    Votes: 13 11.5%
  • Marshtomp

    Votes: 13 11.5%
  • Grotle

    Votes: 6 5.3%
  • Monferno

    Votes: 11 9.7%
  • Prinplup

    Votes: 11 9.7%
  • Servine

    Votes: 19 16.8%
  • Pignite

    Votes: 10 8.8%
  • Dewott

    Votes: 36 31.9%

  • Total voters
    113
You should maybe add a poll to this thread, Nut Master. :)

I struggled to choose between Bayleef, Servine and Dewott for this one. I love the design of those Pokémon so much. So much so that when I use Bayleef or Servine, I'm extremely reluctant to let them evolve. Anyway, I struggled to choose; right up until I remembered that Gen V sorted out Grovyle's colour palette. So I am definitely going with Grovyle now that the shade of green its body is and those horrid, blue leaves have been sorted out. :)
 
Wartortle; he is built like a brick sh*!house!
And he's made ready for war. Shell and all... lol
 
Croconaw is my favorite, followed by Grovyle and Servine. Croconaw is in the weird territory of "tough looking but freakin' adorable." Grovyle reminds me of a raptor dinosaur (thus, cool) and Servine is awesome.
 
Wartortle and Dewott look the coolest. The former is a turtle, and the latter is a badass samurai-in-training. Those two are nearly the starters I chose if I didn't strictly choose Fire every time.

Grovyle is also very cool-looking, but I never liked him much until Mystery Dungeon Sky. GrovDusk ftwI MEAN they made his character really awesome in the main-game and side story.

Pignite is another one I like, because her cry is so cute. x3
 
This is actually a pretty tough choice, I'm very fond of a lot of the second form starters. Dewott comes out on top though, he has such a neat design and I love his tough, disciplined attitude . Not to mention he's a five thousand fold improvement on the abomination that is his pre-evolved form.
 
Quilava and Dewott.

Quilava is just so adorable with his little fire mohawk. And Dewott is the perfect medium between cute and badass. :3
 
No :( I can't decide between Charmeleon, Wartortle, Quilava, Croconaw and Prinplup...


F*** THAT I'LL JUST VOTE FOR ALL OF THEM.
 
Definitely Quilava. I never evolved my Quilava from SS actually.
 
Second stages. I generally don't like most of them, preffering other forms. And outright really disliking one despite the rest being amazing (hello Combusken)

Except for Ivysaur. I really can say Ivysaur is the only starter I like the second stage the most, and I really like Ivysaur in itself too (and the whole line).


Anyway let's go on detail:

- Charmeleon: Ugh. Charmander is cute, and I already explained several times how I like Charizard... But Charmeleon is basically Charmander losing everything I like of it and gaining everything I don't like of Charizard.

- Wartortle: This, on the other hand, I do like. Though I can't really tell if I like Blastoise or Wartortle better in either case.

- Bayleef: It took me a while to get warmed up on this one. Chikorita is basically pure cuteness and Meganium is friendly. Meanwhile Bayleef is very different from the whole line. Because it's such a drastic change from Chikorita I wasn't sure what to think of it, but how it is yellowed, with a bit more open leaves collar and a bitten off leaf shows an interesting personality change, that makes me wonder why did it get ditched and turn back to Chikorita's former "cute and friendly" instead of becoming something different. It still manages to be a cool design in the middle of a line centered in being nice and cute, and I think it's a great design for a middle stage.

- Quilava: Actually, I think I was wrong before. I might like Quilava better than Cyndaquil or Typhlosion... and I do like the line overall, but not as much as Ivysaur. In any case, to me this is the most iconic member of this line, for some reason.

- Grovyle: Pokémon Mystery Dungeon? What is that and why would I be biased for it?

- Combusken: This thing. This is by far the worst. Perhaps not on its own... But, Torchic is my favorite starter. Blaziken is my favorite starter. I think Torchic is easilly the cutest of all the first stages. And Blaziken is badass pokemonified. The contrast between the two is so great, yet it works perfectly... Until Combusken comes in. Then again, birds tend to look ugly when they turn from chicks into adults.

- Dewott: Dewott is good, and I know most people love it and hate Samurott. But I like the final form better. I do think it's a line that looks better as it evolves, though.

The rest I don't particularly care about.
 
Dewott, Servine and Quilava. Dewott and Quilava are both better designed, imo, than their final forms even.
 
It's hard to choose between Ivysaur and Wartortle. But my love of water type starters has pushed me to give an edge to Wartortle.
 
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