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Mafia Chemical Compounds Mafia - Endgame (TBC)

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Vote: Soulmaster
Really no reason not to at this point. It doesn’t matter if they’re indep or scum, getting them out of the way pushes town closer to winning.

So what I’ve gotten from Pika_Pika’s role pm is that compounds that are used medically and constructively are most likely town. Water, Neodymium magnet, and Tefflon are my best guesses for town. Ammonia seems like a hostile role, and i’m not sure what to make of hydrocarbon. Then again, I could be completely wrong, and every one of these could be town. Or the water could be Godfather of all things. Actually, that seems kind of likely? Everyone assumes water is good, which, I mean, it is, but it can be as deadly as cyanide, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Vote: TheCapsFan

I agree with Kyriaki about how the Vig is a stretch, and if Mafia telling a Vig to shoot an indep that's one easy way to make them waste their kill to not target a Mafia.

Also, this seems like a strange reason, but despite all his gunning for me, he hasn't voted for me. He's posted twice so there's been time, but he hasn't. It just seems very odd for me.
 
Kyriaki said:
Vote: TheCapsFan
FoS: Jinjo

From what I can see, TheCapsFan and Jinjo seem to be placing the blame on "The Vig" for Soulmaster living the night. I am voting TheCapsFan because the quote above seems to imply that "The Vig" should have listened to TheCapsFan's suggestion when TheCapsFan's alignment is not known. From what I've seen in past games, Vigs are usually 1x. So I do think it might be possible that TheCapsFan wanted "The Vig" to waste their shot.
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I'm not the vigilante, so I can't shoot Soulmaster. But if I was the vigilante, that's what I'd do. If 70% of the game thinks one person is mafia, and they're not dead, it makes logical sense to shoot them during the night to oust them from the game and keep the game going. Even if Soulmaster flips town, it's not a waste of a shot because it gives us more information and we don't waste a day phase lynching him again. Too late, I suppose.
 
Soulmaster said:
Vote: TheCapsFan

I agree with Kyriaki about how the Vig is a stretch, and if Mafia telling a Vig to shoot an indep that's one easy way to make them waste their kill to not target a Mafia.

Also, this seems like a strange reason, but despite all his gunning for me, he hasn't voted for me. He's posted twice so there's been time, but he hasn't. It just seems very odd for me.
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I've been waiting to hear what you have to say first before voting.

Give me your top 3 town and top 3 scum and why.
 
TheCapsFan said:
It's Day 2. Care to share?
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If Soulmaster flipped Independent or Town, I thought jdthebud would be Town for thinking Soulmaster is town and the player I suspected for being a Mafia I did not mention was going to be DarthWolf. I did not like the way how DarthWolf played on Day 1 and his posting style looked way too much like a Mafia playstyle. My first post I made on Day 1, DarthWolf quoted me back with a sheeping post behind Max and AE.

Sheeping posts always look suspicious to me and I'm scared of DarthWolf's Mafia playstyle and the reason why I did not mention him on Day 1 was because I thought I was going to be a Night 1 target to get killed and jdthebud placing a vote on me yesterday made it look like he was a Town who thought I was going to be Mafia and that prevented me on being a Night 1 target to get killed because Mafia would not want to kill players who have gotten a vote. DarthWolf apologizes for the lack of posting on the last 24 hours of Day 1 but I saw him posting on the Fun and Games forum section and he neglected the Chemical Compounds Mafia game. DarthWolf and jdthebud's alignment is a mystery to me.
 
You want shit? Sure let's get this done.

Top scum, Caps and MegaPod are my top two by far.
Caps ever since his first post there has been something gnawing at me. He starts with Excuses which is fine, I've done that enough times. Neighborhood experience like normal as well, but then the post is rounded off by asking if the game is bastard. @TheCapsFan, what prompted this?
Next few posts seem fine, mainly just reactions. Though, they are generic sort of reactions to just about everything. After that he gets dead set on the Vigilante idea.

MegaPod reactions. First couple posts seem fine, but then he makes a mention of outing as neighbors early being smart. No offense, but that's pretty dumb. As neighbors, you sit on that. You know one of you is Mafia, so for a couple days you wait and watch. When that isn't known, the mafia neighbor will be playing normally or whatnot, but once it is outed there is an automatic shutdown/covering. But if the neighbors bit isn't outed until Day 3 or so, that allows a good bit of info being in the thread, and chances that something that rubbed someone else the wrong way might have further evidence. I don't have much beyond that, but there is still just something that feels off.

And yes I know, those are the two people that have been trying to get me killed the most, and I'm sure that that has some sort of bearing on what I think, but gut feelings are where to start this early in the game.


I don't really have any top townies. FinalArcadia seems the best thus far. HumanDawn seems to be acting normal, and Max is naturally suspicious to me. Jinjo seems on the townie side. I don't have much else and I've been sitting on this post for too long I need to get it out there.
 
Hey guys, I just got back home so I don't have time to catch up on everything. I agree with the Soulmaster lynch that the 1x Deathproof, while it may fit for a Survivor to survive, Soulmaster could still be an anti-Town and anti-Mafia Serial Killer... or Cultist.

VOTE: Soulmaster

What news I have to share though, is in regards to my Discord, is that I got a notification yesterday that @TheCapsFan left a Discord Chat of Elieson's Everyone is Mafia Mafia! me and him were sharing. This is of a game that happened a bit over a year ago. Why did TheCapsFan just suddenly leave it now despite not leaving it for a year? My theories are that he's either:

a) The other mason of the Namecop Mason claim sharing a Discord chat, thus he thought of also clearing his chats

b) He randomly decided to clear out the Discord chats he is in coincidentally at the same time this game is on-going

c) He is part of the Mafia, which has a discord chat, and just like a), he saw that he was in too many chats and wanted to get a list of chats with just relevant ones

This is the message, for anyone interested:

TheCapsFan left the group.Yesterday at 5:56 AM

Yesterday was 23rd June, and my timezone is GMT+1.

FoS: TheCapsFan
 
Max1996 said:
While Jinjo did say that's a weird combo, or something along those lines, all we know for sure is he's Deathproof.
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Yes, that's what we know for sure, but Megapod said it is what we learned because that's what Soulmaster claimed. I don't know why you're bothering yourself over this detail.
 
HumanDawn said:
Yes, that's what we know for sure, but Megapod said it is what we learned because that's what Soulmaster claimed. I don't know why you're bothering yourself over this detail.
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Soulmaster wasn't lynched in D1 despite being the most voted on. That proves he's Deathproof, sure, but that alone doesn't prove he isn't Survivor.
 
Max1996 said:
Soulmaster wasn't lynched in D1 despite being the most voted on. That proves he's Deathproof, sure, but that alone doesn't prove he isn't Survivor.
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Yes, I know, but why is that bothering to comment over anyway? Soulmaster even has the most votes and is still the most likely lynch target by a large margin. It seems like an incredibly minor nitpick.

jdthebud said:
I think it's more likely SM is a mafia than a serial killer since we only had one death last night.
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What happened to your Jinjo vote? You voted Jinjo based on that the reasoning they used sounded superficial, yet now it's a new day; you did not vote Jinjo, and you did not vote for a new target. Not even Soulmaster, who you are claiming to be more likely to be Mafia and not a Serial Killer and did not mention that he could actually be a Survivor. If you don't think that he's even a Survivor and is more likely to be Mafia, why did you not vote?
 
HumanDawn said:
Hey guys, I just got back home so I don't have time to catch up on everything. I agree with the Soulmaster lynch that the 1x Deathproof, while it may fit for a Survivor to survive, Soulmaster could still be an anti-Town and anti-Mafia Serial Killer... or Cultist.

VOTE: Soulmaster

What news I have to share though, is in regards to my Discord, is that I got a notification yesterday that @TheCapsFan left a Discord Chat of Elieson's Everyone is Mafia Mafia! me and him were sharing. This is of a game that happened a bit over a year ago. Why did TheCapsFan just suddenly leave it now despite not leaving it for a year? My theories are that he's either:

a) The other mason of the Namecop Mason claim sharing a Discord chat, thus he thought of also clearing his chats

b) He randomly decided to clear out the Discord chats he is in coincidentally at the same time this game is on-going

c) He is part of the Mafia, which has a discord chat, and just like a), he saw that he was in too many chats and wanted to get a list of chats with just relevant ones

This is the message, for anyone interested:

TheCapsFan left the group.Yesterday at 5:56 AM

Yesterday was 23rd June, and my timezone is GMT+1.

FoS: TheCapsFan
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Dude what is this line of reasoning...complete angleshooting and not game relevant. [Vote] HumanDawn
 
Not sure what to make of the Discord thing in regards to TheCapsFan. On one hand, I've randomly left old servers I was part of from stuff like EiMM at times for no particular reason, though the timing of this game happening is interesting. Even if it is relevant though, I'm not sure how we'd know if it was for scum chat or mason chat-related reasons though. TheCapsFan doesn't look scummy to me in general (nor do I think his comments about vig-killing Soulmaster were suspicious; the logic behind it made perfect sense to me) so it's kind of a null point to me for now.
Max1996 said:
Soulmaster wasn't lynched in D1 despite being the most voted on. That proves he's Deathproof, sure, but that alone doesn't prove he isn't Survivor.
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Soulmaster has to be either indep or mafia because of the claim itself. Town has almost no reason to claim to be a survivor when under pressure. It's true that the only thing we now 100% is that Soulmaster has/had some ability to stop him from being lynched, but given the claim itself straight from Soulmaster it's incredibly unlikely that he could be town. The reason that several of us don't buy the survivor claim is that 1x deathproof is really strange for a survivor to have, and it seems like either it's a lie as scum (and really 1x lynchproof) or is a cover for a different independent role that is probably dangerous.
 
FinalArcadia said:
Soulmaster has to be either indep or mafia because of the claim itself. Town has almost no reason to claim to be a survivor when under pressure. It's true that the only thing we now 100% is that Soulmaster has/had some ability to stop him from being lynched, but given the claim itself straight from Soulmaster it's incredibly unlikely that he could be town. The reason that several of us don't buy the survivor claim is that 1x deathproof is really strange for a survivor to have, and it seems like either it's a lie as scum (and really 1x lynchproof) or is a cover for a different independent role that is probably dangerous.
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Ah. Something about it was confusing me a bit.
 
@jdthebud
Why did you not vote earlier in the phase when you said you thought Soulmaster was more likely to be mafia than a serial killer?
 
HumanDawn said:
What happened to your Jinjo vote? You voted Jinjo based on that the reasoning they used sounded superficial, yet now it's a new day; you did not vote Jinjo, and you did not vote for a new target. Not even Soulmaster, who you are claiming to be more likely to be Mafia and not a Serial Killer and did not mention that he could actually be a Survivor. If you don't think that he's even a Survivor and is more likely to be Mafia, why did you not vote?
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I've lessened my suspicion on Jinjo at the moment, she's made better posts since then.
FinalArcadia said:
@jdthebud
Why did you not vote earlier in the phase when you said you thought Soulmaster was more likely to be mafia than a serial killer?
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As for my lack of a Soulmaster vote earlier, I didn't see any reason to pile on him as the reasoning for his wagon is pretty straightforward at the moment. I'd rather look around for additional options. That's partly why I didn't change my vote last day phase either.
 
jdthebud said:
Dude what is this line of reasoning...complete angleshooting and not game relevant. [Vote] HumanDawn
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No, it's game relevant if I think it is game relevant and worth pointing out. If it's not, convince me that it isn't, and I will drop it. It's just too big of a coincidence for me to not feel compelled to point out that out of all the time since a year ago that TheCapsFan was in the chat, he's only now left when this game is on-going, the game that also happens to be his comeback game.
 
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