Mafia Pokemon Rival Mafia - The End: The Best in the Last

[Ereshkigal]

that also leaves me in an uncomfortable position with you. who are you most and least confident is town? (most is just so i can get a feel for who you actually trust but i am slightly more focused on who you least trust)

To be honest, most people strike me as neutral right now. So, town, but not confirmed either way.

I think Watt is scum becauae being silent and letting Town bicker themselves into defeat is a Mafia tactic, and one used on here before.

Funnygurl555 strikes me as too new to get a real read on yet. I don't think they know enough about the game to be more than a filler. Give them a few games to learn.

Jinjo strikes me as being slightly bonkers at the moment, but not necessarily scum.

I think Feenie, Zinn, and Max are all town.

 

[heretoplaymafia]

ive sat with my thoughts for a while, and here is what i have to say about watt:
watt might be scum, but im reluctant to vote him mainly because the slot hasnt even reached its potential yet. watt made a few posts which i think are undeniably
scummy, but i can see all these actions being performed by a lazy town player, just popping in and leaving. where i come from, some players tend to do that. the slot could still be scum,and after noticing the scumreads just losing wim, but i would 100% prefer if someone else replaced in and we could solve them instead.

how do you ISO someone here actually? id like to redo my reads and its easier for me to iso people

 

[Contrainer]

Hit the "Who Replied?" button and click the number next to someone's name. But I'll do what you're probably looking for, for you!

And now, the complete anthology, brace yourselves...

EVERY POST WATT2015 MADE SINCE GAME START!!!
​

Spoiler: Huge block of text, part 1

Vote: Helix Fossil

A meme no one will understand

Spoiler: Huge block of text, part 2

Unvote
Vote: ThatAsianInTheCorner

Big brain plays

 

[Max1996]

Not quite what I expected...I expected something bigger...

 

[Ereshkigal]

DekuNut talks about stealing balls and this was the post that was before the night phase ended and why would scum kill DekuNut when he was being sus by other players?




This was the first post after DekuNut's death and I am suspicious of you for being involved in DekuNut's death and that looked like you switched your kill target right after DekuNut started talking.

Okay, the more I look at this, the less sense it makes.

For one thing, Deku's post came here: Mafia: - Pokemon Rival Mafia - Day 2: Bye Bye Barry

But the phase lock post came here: Mafia: - Pokemon Rival Mafia - Day 2: Bye Bye Barry

So, how could I have changed my kill to Deku when Deku started talking after the phase was already locked and all actions were finalized?

Jinjo, absolutely nothing about your case against me makes any sense.

 

[Ereshkigal]

Vote: Jinjo

I think I now understand what Funnygurl was thinking: Everything Jinjo said was completely illogical and none of it stood up to rational examination. It seriously looks like Jinjo was trying to pin me as scum and was scrambling to find any argument, no matter how insane, that people might be gullible enough to fall for.

Now, the question is, why? Well, the answer is simple: I lied about being restless spirit. I'm the Town Vigilante and I killed DekuNut because Deku's lack of posting is typical of what I've observed with Deku when Deku is not Town. And my read was right: Deku had a role that would have allowed Deku to kill people in time, in addition to being a threat to Town with one of those victory conditions.

And now it looks like Jinjo is a scum member who figured it out.

 

[Ereshkigal]

Now, for those of you wondering why I would lie about this: I didn't want scum to know it was me just yet. I wanted to be able to surprise them.

Didn't quite work out that way, but at least we caught one scum member before my death.

 

[Jinjo]

Unvote: Ereshkigal

I just came back and I missed your Restless Spirit claim and now you claimed Vigilante.

Vote: Watt2015

There is definitely a scum in Asian's bandwagon and I have info from last night but I don't know which of the voters on Asian's bandwagon is scum.

 

[ExLight]

then you agree that you are not cleared from a flavor cop?

Eeh, I guess.
Just flip a scum. I'm sure it will prove that I'm town.

i disagree with this fundamentally. i will not get into my personal onion on claiming since we are in the middle of a game; however, instead of claiming, they can provide reads and a vote, just like the rest of us.

If they had been keeping up with the game this entire time, eh?
It would be much faster for them to catch up with the game if they just spice it up a little, ey?

(i used a semicolon to look smart did it work)

;yes
i want to do th;at too
did i d;o it right?

I had a steroid shot to my shoulder on Monday, and I'm highly resistant to a number of anesthetics. I've spent the last couple of days stoned on pain meds and playing Animal Crossing.

Yikes, hope you get better.

I'm the Town Vigilante and I killed DekuNut because Deku's lack of posting is typical of what I've observed with Deku when Deku is not Town. And my read was right: Deku had a role that would have allowed Deku to kill people in time, in addition to being a threat to Town with one of those victory conditions.

That's quite the claim.
How many shots do you still have?

It looked like to me there was at least 1 mafia on the Asian, Space, and Zinnlav bandwagon or maybe 2 scum on the same bandwagon.

There is definitely a scum in Asian's bandwagon and I have info from last night but I don't know which of the voters on Asian's bandwagon is scum.

I thought Jinjo was soft-claiming Vigilante, but it seems like some kind of weird how-many-scum detector? Is that it? If so, sounds like another custom role... does it have a name? Restrictions? Requirements?
This kinda explain why she's coming with some nonsensical theories to try to frame Eresh, doesn't it?


If we're going to pick someone from that wagon I think I'd go for Space rn since we have little to nothing on Watt.
I mean, yes, Watt was suspicious, but from those two silly posts I get the feeling that he just fooled around like Asian. I really want something more to lynch him that just two joke posts and inactivity.
Back to Space, she's been acting kinda weird trying to justify her actions too much.
In fact, I think I'll leave a vote on her for now.

Vote: Space

 

[Ereshkigal]

Unvote: Ereshkigal

I just came back and I missed your Restless Spirit claim and now you claimed Vigilante.

The problem I'm having is the information you are trying to be confirmed is being argued in a way that doesn't make any sense.

Like, I'm trying to figure out how you knew I killed Deku unless you already scoped out my role or you have some really weird ability.

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this bit about the information merely saying someone is scum.

That's quite the claim.
How many shots do you still have?

That's for the mafia to find out the hard way

 

[Jinjo]

The problem I'm having is the information you are trying to be confirmed is being argued in a way that doesn't make any sense.

Like, I'm trying to figure out how you knew I killed Deku unless you already scoped out my role or you have some really weird ability.

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this bit about the information merely saying someone is scum.



That's for the mafia to find out the hard way

I'm the 1x Sensor and there is 1 guilty player on Asian's bandwagon. You, Watt, Space, and ExLight voted Asian and I have been figuring out who is the guilty voter and that was the reason why I have been focusing on Asian's bandwagon too much. I was using meta on your scum play because in the other game you were scum who voted the Jester and it turns out I was wrong.

 

[Space]

Back to Space, she's been acting kinda weird trying to justify her actions too much.

well i mean. i've been read as scum this entire game, so what else am I supposed to be doing? (i know, i know other than the obvious scumhunting)

I'm the 1x Sensor and there is 1 guilty player on Asian's bandwagon. You, Watt, Space, and ExLight voted Asian and I have been figuring out who is the guilty voter and that was the reason why I have been focusing on Asian's bandwagon too much. I was using meta on your scum play because in the other game you were scum who voted the Jester and it turns out I was wrong.

what is a sensor? Never seen it before. does it just tell you about the factions of people who voted someone out?

 

[funnier6]

I'm sorry guys I swear I'm not trying to quote wall every five seconds!

debating whether or not it's worth it to lynch @Watt2015 since he won't even bother to show up after rvs and is probably going to get replaced

I want him replaced and we can go from there

But I know how to prove my innocence: catch a scum.

That doesn't prove anything.

Unfortunately, no. A miller claim means nothing if you don't post much afterward.
Let's see how it will change with the sub in.

Ah, but you are pretty new iirc. Miller claims on bulba have yet to let me down, it's simply too common to risk fake claiming.

You don't, you punch them. Or you prove them wrong and lynch them.

Considering that our scum are just being inactive at the moment.

And you totally know that for fact right.

I had to read back and I just realized this vote on Kyriaki. This looked like you are the Godfather who voted Kyriaki and not only did you do that but you also voted Asian who said he is the Jester who looked like an easy lynch for you and if I recall correctly, the other game I played with you when you were scum you also voted the jester.

I have to agree that this literally makes no sense.

The more I look at your posts, the more suspicious you are starting to look.

Again with the shading without actually saying what your problem is or asking any clarifying questions. If we're going that route, let me offer you the same sentiment.

@funnier6 what are you wanting me to say?

Things. Doing what you're doing but more so I can better read you. I don't think I've played with you since way back in the original ZD bulba crossover and I have to say I remember you playing much better as scum so I'm not really sure what to think lol.

About Jinjo's vote on Ereshkigal I do see where they're coming from. restless spirit is an easy fakeclaim. Still, the claim was unprompted which seems really strange for scum to do.

I think we're establishing that Eresh has no problem doing really strange things.

i disagree with this fundamentally. i will not get into my personal onion on claiming since we are in the middle of a game; however, instead of claiming, they can provide reads and a vote, just like the rest of us.
(i used a semicolon to look smart did it work)

I almost quoted that to say the same thing but I thought nah I'll let LG have that one! XD

Funnygurl555 strikes me as too new to get a real read on yet. I don't think they know enough about the game to be more than a filler. Give them a few games to learn.

Again with the saying people are new without actually knowing that? I don't know exactly how long she's been playing but I don't see her as a new player who doesn't know the game at all.

I think Watt is scum becauae being silent and letting Town bicker themselves into defeat is a Mafia tactic, and one used on here before.

So inactive that he gets replaced out? Because that's a strategy?

I think Feenie, Zinn, and Max are all town.

Explain please.

Not quite what I expected...I expected something bigger...

Give thoughts Max! Your own original reads!

Kay I'm gonna work on that updated reads list.

 

[Ereshkigal]

I'm the 1x Sensor and there is 1 guilty player on Asian's bandwagon. You, Watt, Space, and ExLight voted Asian and I have been figuring out who is the guilty voter and that was the reason why I have been focusing on Asian's bandwagon too much. I was using meta on your scum play because in the other game you were scum who voted the Jester and it turns out I was wrong.

I still want to know how you knew I killed Deku:

This was the first post after DekuNut's death and I am suspicious of you for being involved in DekuNut's death and that looked like you switched your kill target right after DekuNut started talking.

 

[Ereshkigal]

And you totally know that for fact right.

That was speculation at the time.

Again with the saying people are new without actually knowing that? I don't know exactly how long she's been playing but I don't see her as a new player who doesn't know the game at all.

That's how I read her. I did admit that I am not getting a clear read on her.

So inactive that he gets replaced out? Because that's a strategy?

Wouldn't be the first time I've seen scum pull that.

Explain please.

They're not acting suspicious at all? Max is being normal for Max, Zinn is being normal for Zinn, and Feenie is acting pretty normal. In general, there's not a lot to go on at the moment for the actives.

 

[Jinjo]

I still want to know how you knew I killed Deku:

I thought you were some scum role who planned on night killing DekuNut and I was going with the info on my result.

 

[littlegumball]

copy/pasted from my notes:

Ereshkigal - ????? i guess???? they're town?????
ZinnLav - either town or godfather tbh. need to iso
Max1996 - town
Contrainer - i don't want to lynch the flavor cop-like claim. tbh i can't remember anything they've posted but i appreciate the rainbow reads so that's another big reason to avoid lynching em
Jinjo - sensors are cool and i'm willing to trust it
Funnygurl555 - if i had a gun to my head i'd say town. still need to iso tbh
Watt2015 - would they be inactive as scum???? i'm townreading so many other people tho. i'd shoot em if i could
heretoplaymafia - i liked their original suspicion on me, progression of thought felt natural, but there's just something about em. i can't quite put my finger on it.
ExLight - idk if i trust the flavor yet???? but i've explained my suspicion.
littlegumball - look mom i'm on tv
Feenie - miller i trust it
Space - looking suspicious, i've talked about this
funnier6 - town


out of the asian wagon i'd go for space or exlight and tbh i'm just more suspicious of exlight. i'll go for space tomorrow if i'm wrong. if i'm wrong again i guess it's fkin watt lmao because apparently eresh is town

Vote: Exlight

speaking of votes, a vote count would be great

 

[funnier6]

Town:
littlegumball- I don't really know how to explain it but I'm so used to LG playing this way and being town that Idr why I would ever scum read her barring some serious abnormalities since she's never been scum for as long as we've played together so I'm just gonna have her as top town for the rest of the game probably. Sheep at your own risk.
Funnygurl555- Same reasons as before really. She's been playing very similar to the hydra game and I just feel like she'd be more cautious if she was playing as scum with mostly new people.
Feenie- I admittedly stopped trying to read feenie after the miller claim so I'm pretty much betting it all on that.
ExLight- Other than softing some sort of investigative role I feel like he's been saying things that would come unnaturally to a newer player as scum and his interactions just feel too off the cuff to for me to scum read. I would expect more caution as scum, very bold to soft investigative.

Nullish:
ZinnLav- I'm just going to believe ex on this one since you're not particularly towny to me but I also feel like you're not the type of person who makes me want to town read (Another Deku for us LG)
heretoplaymafia- idk I feel like he's been trying in a weird way and honestly anyone who can somehow post in the thread but ignore my posts directed at him for two straight days doesn't strike me as someone with anything to fear. Could be dead wrong of course but I haven't seen anything particularly scummy.
Max1996- Again, not really sure if there's any difference between your scum and town games cause you never seem to be particularly pro active with reads and thoughts as either one and just tend to sheep. (Which is unhelpful, you gotta try!)
Contrainer- I need to reread Contrainer cause I skimmed a million of his posts cause there was so much flavor talk in them that I'm not interested in. Not particularly swayed by flavor copish claim especially since it apparently isn't quite a flavor cop role which opens up the door to a weird scum role. Want more reads and thoughts and less flavor talk so I can read better.
Watt2015-hopefully getting replaced soon.

Scum:
Ereshkigal- the playing strangely as all alignments plays havoc with getting any sort of reliable read on you and tbh you seem like that anti-town kinda player who is such a wild card they get lynched or shot immediately. Even with the vig claim I just cant put you anywhere but here cause lol I don't trust you with a gun or at all. Like, serious question, do you really care about winning?
Space- Basically what I just said in my last post. Space is scummy to me but in a completely different way than the last time I can remember Space being scum and its weirding me out and idrk what to do about it.
Jinjo- I admittedly came into this game expecting a bit more from you since from what I've seen you're pretty darn good so you not making any sense to me is kinda bringing me down. If you are town sensor and everything you say is true I can kind of see using it to check the "jester" wagon, but I feel like you completely neglected all other aspects of the game for that one jot of info on day two. I don't think you really commented on anything from day one other than wagons and I'm just having a really hard time seeing your mind set and why you would be so fixated on a one out of four chance when the odds of hitting mafia randomly are probably pretty close to that. And yes, it does also clear three people but not if we spend all game lynching there and find none. Personally I would like to lynch you just to know for sure that the sensor claim is real (Cause sensors are hecka op in role madness) and then we can go the rest of the game without the paranoia that comes with dropping the scum read on you to believe you.

Unvote

Vote: Jinjo

I'm slightly paranoid that Zinn is godfather with Max and Contrainer but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

 

[ExLight]

speaking of votes, a vote count would be great

Watt - 3 - Contrainer, Max1996, Jinjo
Jinjo - 3 - Funnygirl555, Ereshkigal, Funnier6
Space - 1 - ExLight
ExLight - 1 - littlegumball

here we go

 

[ExLight]

ExLight - idk if i trust the flavor yet???? but i've explained my suspicion.
(...)
Space - looking suspicious, i've talked about this

So right now you think I'm bussing Space or something?

Personally I would like to lynch you just to know for sure that the sensor claim is real (Cause sensors are hecka op in role madness)

I... what?