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Mafia Archie Sonic Mafia, Endgame: TBA (4/8/20)

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I’ll try to redo my rainbow list by EoN in case they try to kill me but from the top of my I think Space has the filmsiest claim atm because we don’t even have a hammer mechanic going on for the Loved role to work so it’s in theory just a tie breaker which is pretty much unverifiable unless we’re fine with whiffing a lynch? :v

Feenie comes right behind because if they have to lynch Sonic that’s mildly sus since it sounds like an excuse to jump in every top wagon to lynch whoever is town which is kinda awkward

and I honestly don’t understand why people are speculating PGO is Sonic like what does one thing have to do with the other aaa
 
ExLight said:
I’ll try to redo my rainbow list by EoN in case they try to kill me but from the top of my I think Space has the filmsiest claim atm because we don’t even have a hammer mechanic going on for the Loved role to work so it’s in theory just a tie breaker which is pretty much unverifiable unless we’re fine with whiffing a lynch? :v

Feenie comes right behind because if they have to lynch Sonic that’s mildly sus since it sounds like an excuse to jump in every top wagon to lynch whoever is town which is kinda awkward

and I honestly don’t understand why people are speculating PGO is Sonic like what does one thing have to do with the other aaa
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Wait, you think Space has the flimsiest claim while a "Nighkill only" Bomb claim exists alongside your "Kill protection target if I am killed" role? I was a Loved in Seraph at the End Mafia and there were no Hammer mechanics in that game. I had a Vengeful too, and Space seems to be hinting at something else too.

Space can be Amy who is in the Opening FT and loves Sonic (but technically not Loved by Sonic). ExLight can be Bunnie (literally called Babysitter!!). If either of those characters flip, the respective player who is still alive would be more suspicious as there aren't more fitting characters.

If Sonic dies and Feenie is still alive, we lynch her. Scourge is not in the opening FT but he is in one of the FTs later on. Though, so are Cream and Big the Cat though, and those aren't in the Opening FT. (See @DawningWinds I actually read FT!)

Sonic is kind of a random character, like, he is so fast, you don't know what might hit you back, but I checked up on the characters and I think a Paranoid Ascetic would fit the following:

sonic.fandom.com

Archimedes

Archimedes, also known as Archy, is a fire ant master of the magician's art, and the mentor of Knuckles the Echidna that appears in the Sonic the Hedgehog comic series published by Archie Comics. The latest in a long line of fire ants, he is the descendant of Christopheles, son of Semper...
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(Sonic calls them Ant in the OP)

He has dark red skin, blue eyes and wears bone necklace, cowboy hat, brown vest and brown boots. He dislikes being eaten and is able to breathe fire through his mouth and disappear and reappear via teleportation.
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Dislikes being eaten = Dislikes being targetted
Able to breathe fire through his mouth = Bomb
Disappear and reappear via teleportation = Confuses person trying to target them that it roleblocks them?

The thing is, even TheCapsFan would fit this character. I can't find a more fitting character for somebody else for two bombish roles, but of the two, Pika_Pika42 has a more creative role I can see being in the game more with how well it goes with other roles, unless he is scum with the same role somehow, and in that case, he pretty much outed it when he could have chosen not to with the chance to kill a player that targets him.
 
ExLight said:
btw Jinjo and Mido looking better since they’ve been pushing a Deku lynch a lot since D2 iirc
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I don't remember Jinjo doing much pushing Day 2, unless you meant Day 3? Midorikawa was mostly pushing Pika_Pika42 Day 2, and after ZinnLav claimed, started the wagon on Tood and IIRC defended DekuNut's slot a few times to not be lynched because of him subbing out.

The FA Nightkill was probably to potentially save DekuNut from being lynched Day 3, so I'm assuming Mafia started the day trying to find any wagon that wasn't DekuNut for that day.
 
HumanDawn said:
I don't remember Jinjo doing much pushing Day 2, unless you meant Day 3? Midorikawa was mostly pushing Pika_Pika42 Day 2, and *during Day 3 after ZinnLav claimed, she unvoted her and started the wagon on Tood and IIRC defended DekuNut's slot to not be lynched because of him subbing out.
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@ExLight If you're telling the truth and Snowy made it past this day phase, scum could have redirected your role to another town member, and then nightkilled you to kill both you and your target! 0.0
 
HumanDawn said:
I don't remember Jinjo doing much pushing Day 2, unless you meant Day 3? Midorikawa was mostly pushing Pika_Pika42 Day 2, and after ZinnLav claimed, started the wagon on Tood and IIRC defended DekuNut's slot a few times to not be lynched because of him subbing out.
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o you’re right
Jinjo started tunneling Deku after Piko flipped mb

HumanDawn said:
@ExLight If you're telling the truth and Snowy made it past this day phase, scum could have redirected your role to another town member, and then nightkilled you to kill both you and your target! 0.0
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Y I K E S
holy this would’ve been terrible
good thing we lynched him then :surppika:

you could’ve protected me tho :v

HumanDawn said:
Wait, you think Space has the flimsiest claim while a "Nighkill only" Bomb claim exists alongside your "Kill protection target if I am killed" role?
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I mean, Caps is still down in my readslist, but as I said before I’m kind of a mix of Doctor and Vig so I don’t think the roles are comparable function wise

I do find the interaction with bomb and my role weirder than with PGO as I mentioned before though

that said poking back to the fact I find PGO+Bomb way more unlikely than Bomb+Babysitter since both (PGO+Bomb) are basically unkillable for scum without sacrificing someone from their team which seems a bit broken
and yes I know the PGO claim has RNG involved but if it’s true still 3/4 scenarios where scum either can’t kill and/or gets shot in the face

HumanDawn said:
I was a Loved in Seraph at the End Mafia and there were no Hammer mechanics in that game.
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I didn’t last much in that game, how did your role work in it?
 
I still don't know what to think of Mido. On day 3 she votes DekuNut, he subs out and she unvotes wanting to let the sub get a chance, votes ZinnLav instead and then she derails the lynch to Tood. DekuNut could have gotten lynched on day 3 if it weren't for derailing the lynch. ZinnLav was the player who could choose to place their vote on DekuNut or Tood and ended up voting Tood instead of DekuNut.
 
I make it a policy not to lynch someone just because they can't be active due to personal reasons.
Do you really think Mido is Godfather when it was a 1/15 chance as HD pointed out
Or are you reading me as Mafia despite also confirming you didn't perform the kill.
tbh I think Jinjo is Mafia, sure has been playing pretty scummy and seems to have it out for both me and Mido from the start, despite having very little reason to do so.
 
ZinnLav said:
I make it a policy not to lynch someone just because they can't be active due to personal reasons.
Do you really think Mido is Godfather when it was a 1/15 chance as HD pointed out
Or are you reading me as Mafia despite also confirming you didn't perform the kill.
tbh I think Jinjo is Mafia, sure has been playing pretty scummy and seems to have it out for both me and Mido from the start, despite having very little reason to do so.
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I think since she’s scumreading you she thinks your cop result on mido is fake
 
and it’s 1/15 if godfather is even in the game which seems unlikely considering the busses and the lack of a miller claim just saying :v
 
ZinnLav said:
I make it a policy not to lynch someone just because they can't be active due to personal reasons.
Do you really think Mido is Godfather when it was a 1/15 chance as HD pointed out
Or are you reading me as Mafia despite also confirming you didn't perform the kill.
tbh I think Jinjo is Mafia, sure has been playing pretty scummy and seems to have it out for both me and Mido from the start, despite having very little reason to do so.
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I have been hounding on you and DekuNut thinking you are both the scum team and it was the team that made sense to me at the time. I didn't like how you voted Pika on day 2 without having to read everything first to get an understanding on what was happening in the game. We had a chance to lynch DekuNut on day 3 but instead it was Tood who got lynched and it was your vote who got Tood lynched instead of DekuNut since you were the last person to vote and was the decider on who you wanted lynched. How am I playing scummy when I have been scum hunting? Is it my case I made on you and DekuNut you did not like that made me scummy?
 
ExLight said:
can you address this too, Jinjo?
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ZinnLav has been scummy by play. My scum read on them slightly went down because of the tracker claim on me and now only way ZinnLav could ever be scum is if I was rolecopped on night 1 which I doubt or if there is a scum joat and I would assume there will always be a town joat to counter this.
 
ExLight said:
o you’re right
Jinjo started tunneling Deku after Piko flipped mb
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She's the first vote listed on DekuNut Day 3.

If the Mafia killed FinalArcadia in the hopes that DekuNut is not lynched, then Jinjo voting DekuNut would go against their plan.

ExLight said:
Y I K E S
holy this would’ve been terrible
good thing we lynched him then :surppika:

you could’ve protected me tho :v
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I can't tonight.

Rainbow Cloud's role, remember? :M

I still put in a Jail action though, dw.

ExLight said:
I mean, Caps is still down in my readslist, but as I said before I’m kind of a mix of Doctor and Vig so I don’t think the roles are comparable function wise
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They are comparable because both of your roles would only activate if you are killed during the night. Meanwhile, Pika_Pika42's claim is only applicable if a night action takes into effect (and maybe even nightkills, but even then, there's the night action element involved which neither yours or TheCapsFan has anything to do with them).

I do find the interaction with bomb and my role weirder than with PGO as I mentioned before though

ExLight said:
that said poking back to the fact I find PGO+Bomb way more unlikely than Bomb+Babysitter since both (PGO+Bomb) are basically unkillable for scum without sacrificing someone from their team which seems a bit broken
and yes I know the PGO claim has RNG involved but if it’s true still 3/4 scenarios where scum either can’t kill and/or gets shot in the face
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Like I said, my Jailer can't block a Mafia Nightkill, so I doubt Pika_Pika42's role would block a Nightkill either. It's more of a 2/4 chance, and that's if Nightkills are included!

ExLight said:
I didn’t last much in that game, how did your role work in it?
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-1 to total votes on me. I was a Vengeful too, so if I got lynched, I could take down one of the players who voted me. Eventually, after Space told me she couldn't explain her obligation to be lynched, I thought something similar might be going on. Not saying she is Vengeful, but I think there's more than meets the eye, so her claim isn't that flimsy, plus she fits Amy too, and maybe her hammer will have a use role-wise.
 
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