Really? the way you worded your post made it seem as though your speaking for a majority.
I freaken hate how people bash gen 4 and 5, maybe i should stay away this thread for awhile if theres going to be a gen bashing fest.
Talonflame far from invincible in anyway given the sheer number of pokemon that wall it's priority base flying type moves and it's inedible 4x weakness to stealth rocks.
Starapor on the other hand has Close Combat to deal with most of those walls and only a 2x weakness to stealth rocks.
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