Mafia Dragon Mafia- ENDGAME! Mafia wins!

[Zyla]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

You'll see soon enough.

I'm not gonna claim because my actual role is so similar to the role that I claimed in War Room Mafia. Nobody will believe it.

Well, if you're a jester, I think the game'll continue, and it doesn't really help the mafia, so....

Vote: Denial

 

[Peaceful Giraffe]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

Denial III (Midorikawa, CrackFox, Rorrimeht Retne)
Midorikawa II (Denial, The_Pikachu)

Here's a midday vote count.

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I feel like my lynch would help the town way more than it would help the mafia, so I'm not going to defend myself this time around.

If you're town then by letting us lynch you, you are not helping the town because we lose that number and helps mafia get one step closer.

You'll see soon enough.

I'm not gonna claim because my actual role is so similar to the role that I claimed in War Room Mafia. Nobody will believe it.

So you're claiming bleeder?

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who thought for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who though for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

Then why not tell us if you're town. You're just being detrimental to us right now by playing games.

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who though for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

Then why not tell us if you're town. You're just being detrimental to us right now by playing games.

Why not tell you if I'm town? Ok, I'm town. But you won't believe that. Playing games? Because I don't want to claim? It's too coincidental that I got this role (again mid, not claiming bleeder, or a role that can vote 3 times...) You also say "playing games" like whatever I claim will turn everybody's vote against me around (not my role incase you were going to question me on that.)

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who though for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

Then why not tell us if you're town. You're just being detrimental to us right now by playing games.

Playing games? Because I don't want to claim? It's too coincidental that I got this role (again mid, not claiming bleeder, or a role that can vote 3 times...) You also say "playing games" like whatever I claim will turn everybody's vote against me around (not my role incase you were going to question me on that.)

It could. The fact is you're not trying and that doesn't help the town. Obviously you don't care to help us and that could cost us the game. So help us. Convince us why instead of being so docile.

 

[Zyla]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who though for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

Then why not tell us if you're town. You're just being detrimental to us right now by playing games.

Playing games? Because I don't want to claim? It's too coincidental that I got this role (again mid, not claiming bleeder, or a role that can vote 3 times...) You also say "playing games" like whatever I claim will turn everybody's vote against me around (not my role incase you were going to question me on that.)

How would it be bad for town to lynch a jester?

And if you're saying that it wouldn't get people not to vote for you, what's the point of not revealing it if it's going to be revealed by the flip anyway?

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

If I was a jester, there's a big chance that it actually would help the mafia more than it would help the town. But that's not my role.

And no I'm not the bleeder mid.

Also @Midorikawa; no matter how good I defend myself, I'm still gonna get suspected. So why bother? So I'm just gonna let my death help the town by giving them information. Seeing who was on the wagon and who though for sure that I was mafia when I was not.

Then why not tell us if you're town. You're just being detrimental to us right now by playing games.

Playing games? Because I don't want to claim? It's too coincidental that I got this role (again mid, not claiming bleeder, or a role that can vote 3 times...) You also say "playing games" like whatever I claim will turn everybody's vote against me around (not my role incase you were going to question me on that.)

It could. The fact is you're not trying and that doesn't help the town. Obviously you don't care to help us and that could cost us the game. So help us. Convince us why instead of being so docile.

Everything that I want to say has already been said. And you say I don't want to help the town like its a fact. I don't see how I can help the town when I'm on the chopping block anyway.

And the jester can come back and kill a town member.

 

[Zyla]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I thought you said you being lynched would be good for the town?

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I thought you said you being lynched would be good for the town?

... I'm not the jester.

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I thought you said you being lynched would be good for the town?

He's probably claiming restless spirit and would be smart if he is to tell us what kind because there are different kinds.

@Denial;...Do you know what a jester is? Jester or fool is an indep that wins when lynched. Whether they just win alongside whoever else won (Mafia or town) or the game ends (which I've only seen once in the US elections mafia). Thus lynching a jester just effects the town in the sense that mafia will have one less night kill target.

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I've never seen a jester in a bulbagarden game, only in town of Salem. So I went off of what I know from town of Salem. So I guess not.

 

[Zyla]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

That's actually not the part I was responding to, I was responding to your saying that you didn't see how you could help the town with your head on the chopping block.


so why can't you give us the information that a lynch would give instead of being lynched?

Also, is restless spirit the same role as on MafiaScum? Where the person can vote without being able to speak?

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

That's actually not the part I was responding to, I was responding to your saying that you didn't see how you could help the town with your head on the chopping block.


so why can't you give us the information that a lynch would give instead of being lynched?

Also, is restless spirit the same role as on MafiaScum? Where the person can vote without being able to speak?

Some can, some can speak but not vote. There are different ones. It's host choice.

 

[Zyla]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

That's actually not the part I was responding to, I was responding to your saying that you didn't see how you could help the town with your head on the chopping block.


so why can't you give us the information that a lynch would give instead of being lynched?

Also, is restless spirit the same role as on MafiaScum? Where the person can vote without being able to speak?

Some can, some can speak but not vote. There are different ones. It's host choice.

Ah, that makes sense

 

[Denial]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

I don't want to claim because it won't change anything. So please stop trying to force me in to claiming and pming me asking me to claim please.

 

[Leggo]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

Had an exam and didn't do so hot. Need to do more studying to make up for that.

Getting back to the game. I would say that Denial is worth a cop check and I have a feeling that he is town due to the way he wrote that he's willing to be lynched for the sake of town.
As town, Kyriaki did that in Setra's Super Paper Mario Mafia, iirc and even voted herself to get the point across.

Imo, if Denial is mafia, it would be very desperate and strange for him to say that he's willing to get lynched for sake of town to find out his true affiliation.

There's 11/15 of us left. Assuming that 1/4 of us is mafia, that's around 3.

So 3/11 (28%) of us are mafia.

Reads (that are still prone to change):

Spoiler

Town
Life
Midorikawa
Rorrimeht Retne

Neutral
Rabbit
Kavidun
CrackFox
GastlyGibus

Iffy
Flop
Denial
The_Pikachu

Vote: GastlyGibus

I might be going off a limb because of Kyriaki, but his neutrality and what Kyriaki points out in the following quote strikes me as odd.

The result of GG's 'wait' post? Questions.Discussion. Did he get to lie low? No. Was he able to avoid attention? No. So did he die? Mafia don't choose their targets one minute before the night phase ends or something - they take the day phase into account as well. Just because you're lying low (or trying to avoid attention) during the night doesn't make you any less a kill target. They could choose whoever was most active, or they could choose the most inactive. Or they could just random kill or name kill. Likewise, talking doesn't make you any more a kill target than others unless you have a claim or a report.

I agree with what Kyriaki said about making last minute night kills. It's kind of risky to try to do that because maybe the doctor might change their mind and pick someone else to protect.

Plus, the fact that potentially baiting the mafia by saying "I don't want attention on myself" publicly in the thread may or may not make the mafia go for them depending on how indecisive the mafia is on who to NK since it's possible that the most townly town might be protected, so the mafia has to think of who they can successfully lynch.

 

[Midorikawa]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

UNVOTE: Denial
VOTE: The_Pikachu

Seeing something.

 

[Life]

Re: Dragon Mafia- Day Three- Secrets- 3/9/15

Funny, Leggo. My list of reads is the same as yours, with mine and your names swapped. ^^

I've been thinking about it, and realized that I would actually get the most information out of lynching Flop. Sorry if you're actually town, Flop.

Unvote: Denial
Vote: Flop