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Generation VI: The Future

What will it be?


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Hey, calm down, pokéfans. I don't agree a lot with the idea (overhaul of formes), but I like the idea of a Mega Zygarde because then they could make Primal Xerneas and Yveltal with a reason (Imagine them before they went to sleep in their tree/cocoon). And Zygarde could have a reason to have the same, if not higher, stats than Mega Rayquaza. I just want to see Zygarde get some love. Maybe the Megas could be related to Loki?

I think Complete form might be better than mega evolution because Zygarde can hold an item in its 10, 50 and 100% form. Primal Reversion is unlikely to occur again since I believe it is reserved for Groudon and Kyogre only. Zygarde has its new forms and that should be enough for pokemon fans.
 
I think Complete form might be better than mega evolution because Zygarde can hold an item in its 10, 50 and 100% form. Primal Reversion is unlikely to occur again since I believe it is reserved for Groudon and Kyogre only. Zygarde has its new forms and that should be enough for pokemon fans.
It doesn't really need to be Zygardite X and Y. They could just make it Mega Evolve with Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves. It is not like the moves aren't good, because of the effects they have they are as good as Earthquake.
 
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It doesn't really need to be Zygardite X and Y. They could just make it Mega Evolve with Thousand Arrows and Thousand Waves. It is not like the moves aren't good, because of the effects they have they are as good as Earthquake.

But it doesn't make sense to give it a mega evolution if the Complete form is its most powerful form. Zygarde might have some similarities with Rayquaza but it doesn't mean that it would follow the whole "mega evolve with a move" thing.
 
So, as if Complete Zygarde wasn't robotic and overdesigned already, people are now asking for a Mega-Complete- Zygarde? And two of them!?

Have you even thought how ridiculous the name is? Mega Complete Zygarde. What's next? Ultra Super Duper Mega Complete Zygarde?

This is not Transformers, guys.
I rather like the way Zygarde's complete form looks especially in Tretta where his pose is so angelic. He's favorite amongst alot of the Japanese fandom I noticed too. That said I have several theories about Ziggy and A.Ninja but they're rather controversial.
 
But it doesn't make sense to give it a mega evolution if the Complete form is its most powerful form. Zygarde might have some similarities with Rayquaza but it doesn't mean that it would follow the whole "mega evolve with a move" thing.

Why does being complete mean you can't mega evolve? Complete Zygarde is when Zygarde is once again one being. Why can't that being have a Mega evolution like 46 other whole Pokemon who can Mega evolve? I imagine Complete Zygarde having a BST of 680 to match Xerneas and Yveltal, they are after all a trio. Why can't it use it's 2 hidden moves to go one step further. It already has 4 forms, is a 5th or 6th really that unwieldy?

I rather like the way Zygarde's complete form looks especially in Tretta where his pose is so angelic. He's favorite amongst alot of the Japanese fandom I noticed too. That said I have several theories about Ziggy and A.Ninja but they're rather controversial.

Please share :)
 
But it doesn't make sense to give it a mega evolution if the Complete form is its most powerful form. Zygarde might have some similarities with Rayquaza but it doesn't mean that it would follow the whole "mega evolve with a move" thing.
Ah, innocence. Complete Forms could lead us to defeat Xerneas and Yveltal, but what if they get a new form (Primal, Mega, Whatever). It couldn't hold back the power of those two, so it could need the help of a trainer and the energy of the ecosystem to transform in Mega Zygarde X or Y. I would like it if Y returned to its slime serpentine form, like fusing in a decent way 50% with 100% predominating 50%, while X is bulky and having a lot of similarities design wise with 100%. One Mega could be defensive while one offensive. And obviously the Kalos Trio is based on the Hoenn Trio. It is not really bad considering Kalos would probably get rid of Kanto Variety Hour and get its own identity and lore on Z.
 
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Why does being complete mean you can't mega evolve? Complete Zygarde is when Zygarde is once again one being. Why can't that being have a Mega evolution like 46 other whole Pokemon who can Mega evolve? I imagine Complete Zygarde having a BST of 680 to match Xerneas and Yveltal, they are after all a trio. Why can't it use it's 2 hidden moves to go one step further.

Deoxys didn't got mega evolution due to multiple forms. Complete Zygarde would already have very high BST, around 700 or more and giving it a mega evolution when it has 700 BST in complete form would make far too overpowered, even more than Mega Rayquaza.

Ah, innocence. Complete Forms could lead us to defeat Xerneas and Yveltal, but what if they get a new form (Primal, Mega, Whatever). It couldn't hold back the power of those two, so it could need the help of a trainer and the energy of the ecosystem to transform in Mega Zygarde X or Y. I would like it if Y returned to its slime serpentine form, like fusing in a decent way 50% with 100% predominating 50%, while X is bulky and having a lot of similarities design wise with 100%. One Mega could be defensive while one offensive. And obviously the Kalos Trio is based on the Hoenn Trio. It is not really bad considering Kalos would probably get rid of Kanto Variety Hour and get its own identity and lore on Z.

Xerneas and Yveltal might not get mega or primal in Z. Complete form is said to have a power that is greater than Xerneas and Yveltal.
 
Deoxys didn't got mega evolution due to multiple forms. Complete Zygarde would already have very high BST, around 700 or more and giving it a mega evolution when it has 700 BST in complete form would make far too overpowered, even more than Mega Rayquaza.
Game Freak don't cares about balance. And just because BW Kyurem has 20 base stats more than Resh/Zek doesn't mean Zygarde can't have 680 BST. It could balance out everything with the help of an ability.
And Deoxys is widely different. Its formes have the same BST, while Ziggy's probably don't. Just because it is based on different stats (Attack, Speed, etc.) doesn't mean it could not use a Mega to balance out everything.
 
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Game Freak don't cares about balance. And just because BW Kyurem has 20 base stats more than Resh/Zek doesn't mean Zygarde can't have 680 BST. It could balance out everything with the help of an ability.

So you expect a Mega/Primal Complete Zygarde with 800 or more BST? I'm sorry but they are not going to give Zygarde more power when its Complete form is powerful enough as it is.
 
So you expect a Mega/Primal Complete Zygarde with 800 or more BST? I'm sorry but they are not going to give Zygarde more power when its Complete form is powerful enough as it is.
No, you stubborn man, I mean it could have a more powerful Aura Break to balance the Trio, and leave it 680 like Hoopa Unbound. That way a Mega isn't unreasonable enough to not give it considering Mega Rayquaza breaks the tier because of Dragon Dance and items. It could have 780, and if you think its broken, then give it the damn Zygardite XY.
 
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No, you stubborn man, I mean it could have a more powerful Aura Break to balance the Trio, and leave it 680 like Hoopa Unbound. That way a Mega isn't unreasonable enough to not give it considering Mega Rayquaza breaks the tier because of Dragon Dance and items. It could have 780, and if you think its broken, then give it the damn Zygardite XY.

Problem with that theory is that the complete form has a power greater than Xerneas and Yveltal which means its BST would be more than 680. That is why I say that Zygarde doesn't need a mega evolution or primal. It has a form that gives it enough power.
 
Problem with that theory is that the complete form has a power great than Xerneas and Yveltal which means its BST would be more than 680. That is why I say that Zygarde doesn't need a mega evolution or primal. It has a form that gives it enough power.
If Alakazam got 90 boost, why cannot Ziggy get one? You know Rayquaza only has 10 BST above Groudon and Kyogre and in-game it single-handedly defeated both and completely wrecked their s**t. It's Game logic. Why can't Zygarde be the same? Just a little bit above them and boom! Animanga (prefer to call it like that, laziness) would show Z completely curb-stomping XY and in game it could only have 690, even 685, but not much difference aside from 5 or 10 BST and even like that wreck their s**t. It could work for the movie, giving Volcanion a new boost which Zygarde can't handle and Puni-chan with the love of Bonnie (sorry for using the idea against this stubborn man) can Mega into Zygarde Y.
 
Problem with that theory is that the complete form has a power greater than Xerneas and Yveltal which means its BST would be more than 680. That is why I say that Zygarde doesn't need a mega evolution or primal. It has a form that gives it enough power.
but what if it's just flavor text? like 700 BST isn't going to stop Complete Zygarde from being cunt punted into orbit by a Moonblast from Xerneas. i mean, this is also the same game that says that Arcanine can run 6,200 miles in 24 hours (gracefully) and yet its speed is still 95.
 
If Alakazam got 90 boost, why cannot Ziggy get one? You know Rayquaza only has 10 BST above Groudon and Kyogre and in-game it single-handedly defeated both and completely wrecked their s**t. It's Game logic. Why can't Zygarde be the same? Just a little bit above them and boom! Animanga (prefer to call it like that, laziness) would show Z completely curb-stomping XY and in game it could only have 690, even 685, but not much difference aside from 5 or 10 BST and even like that wreck their s**t.

but what if it's just flavor text? like 700 BST isn't going to stop Complete Zygarde from being cunt punted into orbit by a Moonblast from Xerneas. i mean, this is also the same game that says that Arcanine can run 6,200 miles in 24 (gracefully) and yet its speed is still 95.

Look, we don't know how strong Complete Zygarde is or if the other two are getting mega evolutions. I just don't think that Game Freak would add a mega on top of complete form. We should be happy with the current forms that Zygarde has. Side note: I don't appreciate the swearing.
 
Look, we don't know how strong Complete Zygarde is or if the other two are getting mega evolutions. I just don't think that Game Freak would add a mega on top of complete form. We should be happy with the current forms that Zygarde has. Side note: I don't appreciate the swearing.
Sorry (no, I'm truly sorry). Just ranting my thoughts and I'm used to say it like that. Emotions are getting a bit tense and strong.
EDIT: Well, I think GF could merchandise the new forms well, and a excuse to make two games with a great story and its own identity, and they could add more differences to make buying each one worth it. And to make it fair to Yveltal, Primal Xerneas could be Fairy/Grass. And they fit with the Pre-cocoon and Pre-tree idea. We might not share opinions, but trust me, I like it the way it is. Just I'm a bit biased with Big Z.
 
OR/AS introduced brand-new Mega's from scratch. I don't understand why people are acting like Z couldn't introduce some new legendaries or something.

I mean, obviously Zygarde Complete will be the box mascot like Black Kyurem, White Kyurem, Origin Giratina and Rayquaza before it. But there's no reason why Zygarde couldn't get a Mega, Primal, another forme, or why there couldn't be new legendaries populating the games.
 
OR/AS introduced brand-new Mega's from scratch. I don't understand why people are acting like Z couldn't introduce some new legendaries or something.

I mean, obviously Zygarde Complete will be the box mascot like Black Kyurem, White Kyurem, Origin Giratina and Rayquaza before it. But there's no reason why Zygarde couldn't get a Mega, Primal, another forme, or why there couldn't be new legendaries populating the games.

How is Z going to introduce new legendary pokemon? All the other legendary pokemon are split between XY and ORAS. There are no other legendary pokemon. The only ones left are the mythical pokemon but I have my doubts on that. As I mentioned before, the complete form has a power greater than Xerneas and Yveltal, which makes a mega/primal/another form pointless.
 
OR/AS introduced brand-new Mega's from scratch. I don't understand why people are acting like Z couldn't introduce some new legendaries or something.

I mean, obviously Zygarde Complete will be the box mascot like Black Kyurem, White Kyurem, Origin Giratina and Rayquaza before it. But there's no reason why Zygarde couldn't get a Mega, Primal, another forme, or why there couldn't be new legendaries populating the games.
Yeah, it'd be good if a legendary Trio from Southern Kalos appeared in this game, you know, to have something to do if Kanto Variety Hour ends in Z. It could be a new trio with new typing (I refer to never seen as a trio, do not misunderstand me), an evolution to Dedenne (cos I'd like it to be more than a small ripoff of Raichu and actually having a use) and a Fairy type Pseudo legendary. Sadly it probably won't happen.
 
Yeah, it'd be good if a legendary Trio from Southern Kalos appeared in this game, you know, to have something to do if Kanto Variety Hour ends in Z. It could be a new trio with new typing (I refer to never seen as a trio, do not misunderstand me), an evolution to Dedenne (cos I'd like it to be more than a small ripoff of Raichu and actually having a use) and a Fairy type Pseudo legendary. Sadly it probably won't happen.

I don't think they introduce new pokemon in Z. It would be pointless because gen 7 would be after Z. Why release new pokemon if Gen 7 is coming after Z? It is best to save new pokemon for the new gen.
 
How is Z going to introduce new legendary pokemon? All the other legendary pokemon are split between XY and ORAS. There are no other legendary pokemon. The only ones left are the mythical pokemon but I have my doubts on that. As I mentioned before, the complete form has a power greater than Xerneas and Yveltal, which makes a mega/primal/another form pointless.
Remember: Primal XY are a good merchandise to maintain the Kalos hype and flame alive and not letting it go stale. I would like it if some Megas aren't completely revealed before game announcement, other than obvious ones like Mega Flygon, Mega Milotic, and maybe Mega Dragonit.
I don't think they introduce new pokemon in Z. It would be pointless because gen 7 would be after Z. Why release new pokemon if Gen 7 is coming after Z? It is best to save new pokemon for the new gen.
You know, it could be like platinum, with the Pokédex expanded. Mostly related to other Kalos Pokémon and hopefully, Drakeon. I don't see it like entering more new Pokés than Megas. Maybe 10-20, even less. I'd really see just a new Pseudo legend from SK Legendary Trio Drakeon and a bit more.
 
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