I wasn't talking about breadcrumbing. I was claiming and simultaneously not claiming a PR.
Well, Frog, in a regular Bulbagarden game, everyone can PM everyone, and the cop does indeed PM their checks. Mafia don’t tend to fakeclaim cop because the PMd check can just say in-thread “I’ve got a cop claim, any counterclaims?” And if a CC happens that Mafioso is doomed…
And yes, it is mostly played out of the thread. If one player gets confirmed as town in any way they become the town leader, get all the claims and try to weed out the fakes. Just check Monty Python Mafia to understand how we do things, please. Not saying it's the right way, it's our way, though.
Now, this is not a regular Bulbagarden game because outside chat is very limited. But it's not MU-style No Outside Chat (NOC) at all, either.
Think a bit about it; a community that's used to night-chess private-chat claim-games never got good in hypoclaiming
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Ugh - I really don't like your reasoning.
I'm going to have to disagree with that, this place is very quiet compared to others, but by no means inactive. Jokes are fairly common d1, but at its worst, there's just an extended RVS. There rarely are CFDs, as well, and they've most often been used/attempted by scum.We know jackatlasred well enough to not just lynch him because of his "I'm mafia" joke, please. You probably don't understand the meta you came in well enough yet; this place is inactive, jokes run rampant yet we don't consider this day 1 stuff FPS at all, and there are no CFDs.
... it was made clear in the rules that there is limited out of thread (but not out of GAME) communication. The way we play here is just different.
Hypoclaiming is the way to go when most people know what it is. Over here we never bothered because the cop/seer/whatever could just PM their checks and say "hey I'm the cop and checked you town, want an alliance?"
The radios are the only way for us to use outside chat this game, and Bulbagarden is used to outside chat, so it's in our best interest to try to touch the radio topic. Not that everyone would comply with the in-thread consensus, though
... now that the culture clashes become more and more obvious, do you all realize why I suggested I get a radio?
Zexy already addressed a lot of this, but I'll repeat that this game has only radios as outside communication. Bulbagarden does use OOT talk in a lot of games, but we've built our games and playstyle around that, it's not as broken as you'd expect. Town does have methods to fight scum infiltration, and the roles we often use reflect that. There are ways to hold players accountable for what they say. Just think of it as a game where people can whisper to each other (as long as the host is kept up-to-date), but still have to watch who they contact and what they say, as either alignment.Otherwise, you're suggesting literally anyone can pm anyone. In which case - expect scum to randomly pm non scum saying they checked people - and this game revolves almost entirely off thread.
To rephrase the lame comment - what is even the point of radio communication then if there is out of game communication?
Please stick to integrity of the game everyone
I'm going to have to disagree with that, this place is very quiet compared to others, but by no means inactive. Jokes are fairly common d1, but at its worst, there's just an extended RVS. There rarely are CFDs, as well, and they've most often been used/attempted by scum.
Of course, the cop doesn't just PM their first, or even first few, checks just because, Godfather/Sanity exists for that reason. There almost always is a Miller or Framer to check a follow-the-cop, as well.
Actually, no. Discussing the radio topic opens the door to pandering for a radio, like Flash was doing. The ones to get a radio should earn it through their play. That applies to you as well, no matter how many players you know.
Zexy already addressed a lot of this, but I'll repeat that this game has only radios as outside communication. Bulbagarden does use OOT talk in a lot of games, but we've built our games and playstyle around that, it's not as broken as you'd expect. Town does have methods to fight scum infiltration, and the roles we often use reflect that. There are ways to hold players accountable for what they say. Just think of it as a game where people can whisper to each other (as long as the host is kept up-to-date), but still have to watch who they contact and what they say, as either alignment.
Just as you make a point of wanting to teach the community here about hypo-claiming and its benefits in this game, consider that we have our own kind of game that we've been playing and developing for a while, and it works. There is no great town- or scum-favored win ratio, before you ask. I'd ask that you be willing to try a OOT game, or a couple, before you pass judgement. But it's your choice, and either way, I hope you enjoy this one, and stick around for any NOC games we may run. ^^
1) I said it was a bad idea?
1) It was unclear
I'd like to discuss this more when this game is done.
Not wanting to discuss radio discussion by no means should be considered an anti-town action just by principle. The game hadn't officially started, no one had anything to go off of other than their own role PM and alignment during that discussion. There's no way to make an informed opinion about it that would be safe, and there is the risk that someone might be impressionable enough to follow what prominent players (and those who can be either the biggest boon or the biggest bane - depending on alignment - to town as a result) might say. As such, I don't think not liking the discussion is a clear-cut scum- or town-read.FrogSC2 said:
Frog is saying here that he might have access to radio communication and what frequency he'd have chosen, and/or that he might be Cop who got a random n0 town check, and who it would be. This may or may not be true. The point is, if enough people post like this, the real PRs can leave result info without risk of being killed for it, and should they die, what they did get is out there.
Now this isn't always true, I am mislynched more often as town, but not every time people trust me/civ read me do I flip mafia. I am a usual mafia set up target though so keep that in mind.
