Mafia The Pokemon Starters Mafia (Mafia Wins)

[Elementar]

It is too. I'm sorry that I overlooked that.

And if RS is scum, I may be coming after you Mido.

 

[jdthebud]

The lack of activity in this day phase is concerning.

jd's latest post is pingy. He sounds like he's trying to sheep Zexy's reads a bit after his death. As Sunsette notes, jd suddenly becomes suspicious of Sunsette based on Zexy's flip, but the fact that he still finds them to be town sounds something weird for a townie to do.

Still suspicious about Elementar. His posts still seem to be a lot of fluff/filler.

Null on both crows (HC and WC). Really hoping they'll post more thoughts soon.

MEevee/leetic is looking better and M13's sudden drop in activity is concerning.

Going to put a pressure vote on RS to see how they respond.
Vote: RainbowSkittles

Regarding Sunsette, I didn't say I was suspicious of her, I said it made me paranoid, as in it made me wonder about her for a bit. Before Zexy posted that list he indicated a couple times that he saw Sunsette as town. Just seemed strange enough to warrant a comment, since I have been townreading her since D1.

What do you yourself think about her? I don't remember if you ever posted a reads list.

Anyway, I really hope we get some more discussion and votes before the EoD. 2 votes for a lynch is not good with the amount of players we have still alive. I'm going to sleep now, will be back in about 8 hours.

 

[HumanDawn]

The fact that you even thought that was possible in a game where everyone starts as vanillas should have proved it impossible

I still had my doubts. Zexy made a comment about there possibly being more to ROMCH's Role PM, and with how he was constantly defending him, I thought mason was the only thing that made sense if they were Town; that Zexy was pretty much guiding ROMCH in his replies, and it would also explain why Zexy ignored comments in regards to my opposition with him. This is the out of the box thinking I was talking about, and why I said it would be terrible if my theory was true because if ROMCH then flipped mason then it would make Zexy be figured to be a mason and thus be killed, so we'd have no clear. I was just not comfortable with lynching ROMCH anymore and didn't want to be wrong if he died and flipped Town with the theory in mind.

leetic and White Crow sound good, Hellcrow is worrying, makes me wonder if it's setting up for some WIFOM. Midorikawa explained how RS's behaviour is more of a personality thing but it's still annoying with how hard it makes him to read. My issue with jdthebud is his popping in and out attitude, I tried thinking of what he has really tried contributing but I don't know. M*13's lack of posts lately worries me although I guess he's still fine from Pikochu's vote on them - time was still left and the votes could have easily changed. I may need to re-evaluate my Elementar read, lately I've been getting paranoid that I may be Townreading Mafia.

tbh I'd still be fine with a Space lynch; but once I have time I'll try checking the thread again real quick before voting because I gotta go.

 

[MMMMMMMMMMMMM]

From what others have said, RS is not playing differently from his usual style. But without any background, I would agree that he is acting suspicious. So which one is it?

Also, I would like to ask @leetic if he would confirm or deny the fact that he is Froakie. If he doesn't want to answer, that's fine.

 

[EeveelutionLover]

2) @Sunsette
3) @Hellcrow
4) @Elementar
5) @Slife
7) @jdthebud
8) @White Crow
9) @Midorikawa
10) @HumanDawn
12) @RainbowSkittles
13) @MMMMMMMMMMMMM
14) @Andrew1990
15) @leetic
16) @Space
17) @returnofmastercrazyhand

RainbowSkittles - II - Elementar, Slife
Space - I - jdthebud
Elementar - I - leetic

Day phase ends at 3pm Pacific Time Zone

 

[Sunsette]

Alright, this day phase is low-activity and I'm not feeling a lynch on RS at the moment. Elementar seems suspect enough and I want to see his flip.

Vote: Elementar

We don't want a No Lynch due to tied votes, so everyone who hasn't voted yet, commit to a vote please.

 

[MMMMMMMMMMMMM]

Vote: RainbowSkittles
Okay. I'm still not sure, though.

 

[Space]

Sorry about the inactivity, I've got exams coming up.

[QUOTE="jdthebud, post: 5922425, member: 32919"or the accusations others have been throwing around. His reads lists had one scum read, Calvin.[/QUOTE]

I have though. Mostly anyway, as it's been the same things said about me. And yeah, my list was fairly neutral. At the time I didn't see any glaring scum tells besides Calvin and well... we know that was wrong. I'm very rusty on mafia is all I can about that unfortunately.

Vote: RainbowSkittles

I think (yeah I was suspicious initially but that's changed) Elementar had town-ish intentions when he wanted to vote inactives in the beginning. But man I really need to look back though. Hopefully I can before this phase ends.

 

[jdthebud]

I still had my doubts. Zexy made a comment about there possibly being more to ROMCH's Role PM, and with how he was constantly defending him, I thought mason was the only thing that made sense if they were Town; that Zexy was pretty much guiding ROMCH in his replies, and it would also explain why Zexy ignored comments in regards to my opposition with him. This is the out of the box thinking I was talking about, and why I said it would be terrible if my theory was true because if ROMCH then flipped mason then it would make Zexy be figured to be a mason and thus be killed, so we'd have no clear. I was just not comfortable with lynching ROMCH anymore and didn't want to be wrong if he died and flipped Town with the theory in mind.

leetic and White Crow sound good, Hellcrow is worrying, makes me wonder if it's setting up for some WIFOM. Midorikawa explained how RS's behaviour is more of a personality thing but it's still annoying with how hard it makes him to read. My issue with jdthebud is his popping in and out attitude, I tried thinking of what he has really tried contributing but I don't know. M*13's lack of posts lately worries me although I guess he's still fine from Pikochu's vote on them - time was still left and the votes could have easily changed. I may need to re-evaluate my Elementar read, lately I've been getting paranoid that I may be Townreading Mafia.

tbh I'd still be fine with a Space lynch; but once I have time I'll try checking the thread again real quick before voting because I gotta go.

I've been popping in and out because work is busy right now, which mean I have enough time to read and post, but very little time to wait for a reply after I post before I either go to sleep or work. This past weekend I had a bit more time but the decline in overall discussion kind of neutered that. I'll make more of an effort to get back on before the EoD today though.

Vote: RainbowSkittles
Okay. I'm still not sure, though.

If you aren't sure, then who else do you think is worth looking at?

Sorry about the inactivity, I've got exams coming up.

[QUOTE="jdthebud, post: 5922425, member: 32919"or the accusations others have been throwing around. His reads lists had one scum read, Calvin.

I have though. Mostly anyway, as it's been the same things said about me. And yeah, my list was fairly neutral. At the time I didn't see any glaring scum tells besides Calvin and well... we know that was wrong. I'm very rusty on mafia is all I can about that unfortunately.

Vote: RainbowSkittles
[/QUOTE]
I think (yeah I was suspicious initially but that's changed) Elementar had town-ish intentions when he wanted to vote inactives in the beginning. But man I really need to look back though. Hopefully I can before this phase ends.[/QUOTE]Well, okay, that's a reason I guess (being rusty), though not a very good one. Doesn't really lessen my suspicion of you. Can you expand a bit more on that read on Elementar's intentions?

See you all in a few hours, I'm off to work now.

 

[jdthebud]

Quote formatting fail...my response to Space is:
Well, okay, that's a reason I guess (being rusty), though not a very good one. Doesn't really lessen my suspicion of you. Can you expand a bit more on that read on Elementar's intentions?

 

[ReturnofMCH]

I'm going to avoid this bandwagon in case RS turns out town

 

[HumanDawn]

I know that it is hard to play your first mafia game, and I can see some small similarities between M*13 and me from my first game (welcome by the way mate).

Hmm, could you explain this further?

Because they've been playing like their confused and a bit rusty. But White Crow is my second choice obviously

What about their confused state and rustiness do you think is worth voting for then?

Why? Isn't the converse true, when a wagon gets so big it simply has to have scum in it?

A big wagon may also be because Mafia has been found so may as well try lynching them for some Town cred. Granted, it can still make me paranoid, but much less than people who I expect to suspect somebody not end up suspecting them or going after them. Zexy flipped Town so my paranoia then was wrong.

....The vote count is on this page. RS has two, you have one, and Space has one.

I don't find RS scummy enough to vote, but the other two best lynch options would tie the votes so I'll withold. I actually still need to read Space's post.

Distracting iZombie and other mafia

Then push for your lynch. C'mon Mido you know that's no excuse. That's an incredibly out of character reason.

I'm going to avoid this bandwagon in case RS turns out town

please don't say things like these

Who would you vote?

I still would be up to lynch Space(but rereading their early Day 1 posts has put some ease) but a RS lynch would not be a bad lynch either.

VOTE: RainbowSkittles

Could the players who have voted/suspect Elementar put up all their points together? I'm not sure if I'm feeling it.

 

[Sunsette]

Putting leetic aside for now, I'm still iffy on Elementar; he's been batting around a lot of possibilities without really committing to any and this avoids putting any real responsibility on him in case of a mislynch. Hellcrow makes me nervous because his typical low activity makes it really easy for him to slip under the radar as scum. I'd like to hear more from him, but idk if that's going to happen unless he's on the chopping block. An Elementar lynch would probably help cement my feelings on whether leetic is scum or not, since he's pushing Elementar pretty hard.

Relevant parts bolded. RS is null to me since they've barely been contributing and people who have been around longer say that's not out of the ordinary for them, so there's not really anything for me to grab onto there. To be honest, I was expecting more people to bandwagon on Elementar than on RS, given that people have been citing Elementar as scummy and RS as "meh, that's their meta".

 

[ReturnofMCH]

Who would you vote?

probably elementar for posting more filler than I ever did when I was new.

 

[HumanDawn]

Relevant parts bolded. RS is null to me since they've barely been contributing and people who have been around longer say that's not out of the ordinary for them, so there's not really anything for me to grab onto there. To be honest, I was expecting more people to bandwagon on Elementar than on RS, given that people have been citing Elementar as scummy and RS as "meh, that's their meta".

I'm honestly not feeling it with Elementar. It seems like most of the animosity is because he voted Midorikawa and then switched to ROMCH. leetic claims it's scummy because they gave no reason but they did; they said they wanted their vote to matter and wanted it to be on something more useful.

leetic is probably Town. If they're not I'm calling bullshit come post game. Granted I would still call something out but if they're Mafia I would be much more mad.

 

[ReturnofMCH]

I'm honestly not feeling it with Elementar. It seems like most of the animosity is because he voted Midorikawa and then switched to ROMCH. leetic claims it's scummy because they gave no reason but they did; they said they wanted their vote to matter and wanted it to be on something more useful.

leetic is probably Town. If they're not I'm calling bullshit come post game. Granted I would still call something out but if they're Mafia I would be much more mad.

in fruit bowl mafia he appeared town for the entire game then turned out to be the final scum in the last phase.
that and a bunch of other "confirmed townies" like caps.

 

[Midorikawa]

VO

It is too. I'm sorry that I overlooked that.

And if RS is scum, I may be coming after you Mido.

And if he's town you'll assume I'm scum anyways. So your point?

I'm going to avoid this bandwagon in case RS turns out town

WTF?

Then push for your lynch. C'mon Mido you know that's no excuse. That's an incredibly out of character reason.

I know. I've been lazy this past phase.

I'm honestly not feeling it with Elementar. It seems like most of the animosity is because he voted Midorikawa and then switched to ROMCH. leetic claims it's scummy because they gave no reason but they did; they said they wanted their vote to matter and wanted it to be on something more useful.

leetic is probably Town. If they're not I'm calling bullshit come post game. Granted I would still call something out but if they're Mafia I would be much more mad.

That's not the reason for me. I'll do a full case when I have PC access. Right I'm busy with BJs

On another note

VOTE:MCH

He was never fully cleared for me from day one. And PIKO defended him and chose to vote Mr Delicious over him as well despite MCH providing the better chance to live. Also the fact that he's avoiding a possible mislynch just to not be part of a mislynch is jsut scummy

 

[HumanDawn]

in fruit bowl mafia he appeared town for the entire game then turned out to be the final scum in the last phase.
that and a bunch of other "confirmed townies" like caps.

Are you referring to Elementar or leetic? leetic is not "confirmed" Town, but if they're really Froakie then I'm more willing to believe they're Town anyway because Mafia have one Water-Type starter already killed. Same goes for whoever Dewott is. This is mostly because of my set-up and mechanics theory on how it makes more sense to have more varied typed Mafia team typing and region wise to help with them getting roles (Dewott would have to be the extra same-types starter to be scum if there's 4 of them). Otherwise the mechanics and set-up would be much, much more in favour of the Town with them more likely.

Yeeeeaaaah with my theory being disproved my ROMCH read has been whacky; I'm not sure what to think and if I should respect Zexy's claim that ROMCH is Town. Feels weird to have Zexy killed N2 if ROMCH is Mafia though, unless they had caught some scum in some read of there's.

 

[Midorikawa]

Are you referring to Elementar or leetic? leetic is not "confirmed" Town, but if they're really Froakie then I'm more willing to believe they're Town anyway because Mafia have one Water-Type starter already killed. Same goes for whoever Dewott is. This is mostly because of my set-up and mechanics theory on how it makes more sense to have more varied typed Mafia team typing and region wise to help with them getting roles (Dewott would have to be the extra same-types starter to be scum if there's 4 of them). Otherwise the mechanics and set-up would be much, much more in favour of the Town with them more likely.

Yeeeeaaaah with my theory being disproved my ROMCH read has been whacky; I'm not sure what to think and if I should respect Zexy's claim that ROMCH is Town. Feels weird to have Zexy killed N2 if ROMCH is Mafia though, unless they had caught some scum in some read of there's.

Only issue is if there are 4 or more Mafia we have a double typed

 

[ReturnofMCH]

For the last time, I am not scum, I just tend to act antitown in almost every game I go in.
Seriously, how long will it take to learn some "players" here can't do as much confributing as others, let alone try to be town only to get mislynched by the experienced players for being antitown.