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Right but while adding things, everything else suffered, and it ended up in a muddled package.3D graphics, Fairy type, Mega Evolutions, Amie, Super Training, PSS. All pretty big additions or improvements for the series. And customization, despite its absence in ORAS. How many of those things feature in SM, and what would SM look like without them? Take Poké Ride out, too.
I don't think it's really an equivalent exchange where you can look at how they did it previously and say, "Oh but they didn't do it bigger and better this time!" Gen III > Gen IV was a different ballgame from Gen V > Gen VI so of course they aren't going to progress or advance in the same way.
And anyway, sometimes you've got to take a small step back to take a bigger step forward.
Aw, I was hoping we could hunt for Mega Stones, just like XY/ORAS. That was a fun little distraction.
Sure gen 6 was needed, groundwork and all that jazz, but at the very least compared to DP the ground it was on was way more shaky. DP was the same nightmare as XY, but that got platinum, but it still was veery much a continuation to what RSE offered and did for the series. XY was way too disjointed compared to Gen 5, which at the time was and kinda still is considered a new starting point for the series to build on. XY cut the momentum felt in those years, and that feeling has slowly been crawling back over the last few months, starting from the revelation that its level scaling returns. It was the gen that did little in terms of revolutions, but its evolution was stagnated come 2013.
SM Demo is double the size of ORAS', probably gonna be a bit longer too. I hope for the love of god they smartened up and trimmed it down to the neccessaries, cause if a dataminr reveals stuff over a month early its gonna be a bloodbath.
I'd disagree about XY doing little for changing the series, Fairies and Mega Evolutions have been some of the biggest shake ups since around Gen III's EV/IV haul and Gen IV's Physical/Special Split. If anything, Gen V revolutionised the series the less, as a lot of its features were inconsequential, self contained, or barley utilised. It was also the noticeable decline of side activities and battle facilities Imo.
I thought they evolved into those giant swords it can pull out of its scabbards of a knee guard...Dewott's scalchops evolve into Samurott's helmet
Why are you aying this? To some extent, I could agree with you about XY in particular, but not Gen VI as a whole, because ORAS redeemed the generation, imo. . But even XY was far from a mistake. It was a good introduction for Gen VI.-Gen 6 keeps on digging its "I was a mistake hole even fucking deeper." I like megas but god damn it, their post game relegation, each major feature of XY being paltry shadows of their SM incarnations, and everything and anything that made gen 5 so good is spiritually returning to the series, from the music to the gameplay, its like GF doesn't care or appreciate what they did over the last 3 years. And I am glad for that, so far this is gen 6 the way it should have been done, the gen 6 I was waiting for after the god tier, greatest experience ever that was B2W2. I NEED IT NOW.
Why are you assuming so many unconfirmed things? There is no Battle Frontier, no Secret Bases, and no side activity like Contests/okeathlon/Pokewood sofar. SM is looking very promissing sofar, but it´s only a promiss sofar. With those 3 features (or equivalents), the game could reach BW2 tier (read: best game ever tier).-I think that each gen indeed is getting a feature, big or small, in the games. What it seems like to me is:
Gen 1 and 2 have Pokemon Snap like minigame and Stadium style rental battles
Gen 3 has ???
Gen 4 likely has the Honey Trees and the WiFi Plaza
Gen 5 has the Join Avenue and Entralink Hybrid
Gen 6 has the Pokemon Amie update and Riding
I wouldn't put the Pelago as an udpated Secret Base feature just yet, so I am thinking maybe it really is the frontier returning. That alone would make it a great fucking feature list tbqh, everything major except habitats and the PWT is missing, Pokeathlon and the Pokestar Studios would be way too hard to implement and offer way too much in game to return.
-Gen 6 keeps on digging its "I was a mistake hole even fucking deeper." I like megas but god damn it, their post game relegation, each major feature of XY being paltry shadows of their SM incarnations, and everything and anything that made gen 5 so good is spiritually returning to the series, from the music to the gameplay, its like GF doesn't care or appreciate what they did over the last 3 years. And I am glad for that, so far this is gen 6 the way it should have been done, the gen 6 I was waiting for after the god tier, greatest experience ever that was B2W2. I NEED IT NOW.
I don't know where to post this one from Spanish site. So there's new item "piedra hielo" (ice stone).
Woah! Good spot. I think that's definitely the Vulpix evolution method.
i don't really think it's all that fair to write everything else when it's not really....everything else.Right but while adding things, everything else suffered,
the pacing may have been tight and focused, but it was also formulaic. every badge played out like a chapter that followed this generic structure: 1) an encounter with Cheren; 2) an encounter with Bianca; 3) an encounter with Plasma; and 4) an encounter with the gym leader. there may have been some overlap, but the story played out relatively the same.Tight and focused pacing with a clear story start to finish(gen 5)
outright that's an exaggeration. it definitely wasn't a consistent pacing, but then again, BW aside, pacing has never been consistent in Pokemon. for what it's worth, Sinnoh also has a huge pacing problem but you're not gonna catch many people saying much about it cus DPPT love is in right now. that being said i personally enjoyed the less consistent pacing because it felt more of an adventure rather than the BW-esque "go to city, get badge, go to route to next city, get to city, get badge, etc."Sloppy and disjointed pacing
....such as? unless we're playing the "what happened to Lysandre," "ghost girl question mark," "power plant doors," etc game to which i'd just say that not everything is Chekhov's Gun.that offered unclear and mismatched endings to 3 plotlines that lead nowhere(gen 6)
subjective ~ !Go Ichinose music VS whatever the hell was going on in Kalos
people reading this in 2010 would not believe you at all. (yes, BW2-Unova is a step up from BW-Unova at least.)Unova was a well built region
and Kalos, playing heavily on the themes of beauty and taking from standard French imagery....didn't?with a Cohesive theme
thought you were talking about Unova at first, but also just about every region anyways since they've all been pretty much city -- route --> city -- route --> city anyways.the Super Mario Overworld
such as?which had lpads of unfinished areas
i've always hated this complaint about Kalos because there is. a sizeable number of routes had small puzzles and stuff to do. Route 21 isn't huge...but that's also largely considering if you only go gate to gate. there's a sizeable area to the south with some trainers and a Strength puzzle, as well as the Draco Meteor tutor so that's plenty of reason-- at least to me-- to at least clear it once and then come back and explore.and didn't offer a whole lot of incentive to travel back to.
I didn't say all that is in game. I only said the frontier might be. So far, every new feature os either an expansion of something previous, or draws from other games in the franchise because the original generation had no real features to draw from, only the remakes did in a way. So yeah, when considering that all the generations so far bar gen 3 have something to offer in game, either by a feature or mechanic that is returning, it needs to be pondered just what can gen 3 be celebrated with that has not bee shown yet? If it were some sort of house building expansion of the secret bases I would assume they would show it, wouldn't yo?Why are you aying this? To some extent, I could agree with you about XY in particular, but not Gen VI as a whole, because ORAS redeemed the generation, imo. . But even XY was far from a mistake. It was a good introduction for Gen VI.
Why are you assuming so many unconfirmed things? There is no Battle Frontier, no Secret Bases, and no side activity like Contests/okeathlon/Pokewood sofar. SM is looking very promissing sofar, but it´s only a promiss sofar. With those 3 features (or equivalents), the game could reach BW2 tier (read: best game ever tier).
But sofar, SM is nowhere near BW2 level in terms of content. It is basically XY tier, maybe a little higher, but definitely lower than ORAS.
A lot of people are just confusing "new mechanics" with "more game content/postgame content". SM has a lot of new mechanics. But mechanics don´t mean "extra content":
- Z Crystals are just flashy moves, not extra content.
- Alola Forms are just alternative looks, not extra content.
- Poke Ride is the new HM system, not extra content.
- UBs are villains, not extra content.
- Island Trials come at the expense of Gyms, so not extra content.
And so on...
The only actual "gameplay content" confirmed for SM sofar is
- Pokemon Amie
- Poke Finder (Snap minigame)
- Poke Pelag item searching and digging
- Festival Plaza shopping and minigames
To be honest, this is all of the confirmed single player content sofar, which is far from impressive imo. And even with the Festival Plaza... we don´t know if the Join Avenue feature will have an offline utility as well (BW2 Avenue has NPCs visiting you Avenue even offline as well) and we don´t know if the missions will be offline as well, like the BW2 Funfest missions were also available as single player content. And the internet support of a game is stopped in a few years, so those features just become unavailable, if they are online exclusive, so they shouldn´t realy count as content. Same goes for the Battle Royal
If SM also gets a Battle Frontier, a side activity like Contests, a side activity like Secret Bases, and the Funfest Mission- equivalent is offline available as single player content as well, and not just online, then SM is gonna be the best game ever, period. But sofar, the amount of áctual extra content is far from BW2, and definitely behind ORAS as well.
Excuse me for the rant. It´s just that people are overhyping SM a lot (in terms of content). You can´t just compare an unreleased game, to the best game sofar (BW2) in terms of content so lightly.
Got it from Reddit, it's like the legit 4chan. Lol
I really love the ice stone, it's such a beauty <3 well that's my bias, since I'm an ice type trainer. Lol
Moss rock can be in lush jungle and ice rock can be on the ice mountain, but they keep on devoting a location for these location specific evo exclusives.. Might as well simplify it with ice and leaf stone. And magnetic stone for probopass and magnezone for that matter.
float stone. jp name is pumice stone which is what that name is in spanish.but what is that Piedra Pómez?
I would like to rebut some of these... but most notably these two:- Z Crystals are just flashy moves, not extra content.
- Alola Forms are just alternative looks, not extra content.
- Poke Ride is the new HM system, not extra content.
- UBs are villains, not extra content.
- Island Trials come at the expense of Gyms, so not extra content.
float stone. jp name is pumice stone which is what that name is in spanish.