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Mafia Pokémon XY&Z Anime Mafia ~ Endgame (Until the day we meet again...) ~ TOWN AND JESTER WIN!

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Actually guys my ability is to tell one person my real alignment. I know it'll make me seem scum, but my other role is actually a one time anything blocker. I actually aimed my ability at HD. I have yet to use my one time blocker.
 
jackatlasred said:
Actually guys my ability is to tell one person my real alignment. I know it'll make me seem scum, but my other role is actually a one time anything blocker. I actually aimed my ability at HD. I have yet to use my one time blocker.
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So...You can block literally anything for one whole phase when using it? Just asking.
 
HumanDawn said:
omg so much information with that reveal alone.... WOW ok Seth's confirmed Town in my eyes

Klavier Gavin must be Town, and also Pikachu by extension considering the role used must be Lightning Rod

@Elementar Watcher + Lightningrod is probably the most overpowered combination ever...
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How is pikochu confirmed again?
 
@Seth Rollins I take back what I said earlier, you're a fecking genius. :p

Zexy said:
Could you please keep me alive at least one more day so I can Vig a person of everyone’s choosing? So that I make good use of most of the JOAT role, at least. Roleblocker’s not that important, I don’t care about it.
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Now you're just desperate. But dedicated, I'll give you that. @HumanDawn why are we avoiding a hammer? Are you even reading this rn?

Klavier Gavin said:
Might as well reveal the information I got.

My ability is Lightning Rod, yes, and I used it last night. It sent me a cop check result and it says jackatlus is town.
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Elaborate on the mechanics of your role please. Things don't seem to be adding up.

FinalArcadia said:
Though I'm confused on how Klavier received a copcheck if the lightning rod was in effect? Wouldn't the copcheck have just given her a result on Klavier himself?
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From my experience as/with Lightning Rod, if you use your ability, you do not see the results of investigative checks. The person who targets you sees you instead. For example, if the cop used his check on, say, Ghostly, last night, and you (LR) used your ability, the cop would see you as town. You wouldn't receive any check results. This is why I don't 100% trust KG.
 
Elieson said:
How is pikochu confirmed again?
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I said Pikachu, Ash's heterosexual life parnter. Lightning Rod can be a Pikachu's Hidden Ability. Ash's Pikachu has the ability Static, but I can see Elementar deciding to take some liberty and making it Lightning Rod.

I guess I can buy jackatlasred being a friendly neighbour, and they would probably fit Bonnie the most, who is an incredibly friendly girl. The blocking ability could come entirely from Dedenne. Seth's Watcher could easily fit Blaziken Man, who's like the Pokemon equivalent of Batman. Maybe even Greninja, but I don't think they did much watching and considering their Ash-Greninja transformation I expect something stronger. Like maybe if they contribute to a lynch, they get a Vigilante shot or a power up to their current role? Would make sense with what Olive said about a power up.
 
Zexy said:
Well if you are going to just pile up on me without a counter-wagon, I just have to claim the rest of my abilities: 1x Vig, 1x Roleblocker.

Could you please keep me alive at least one more day so I can Vig a person of everyone’s choosing? So that I make good use of most of the JOAT role, at least. Roleblocker’s not that important, I don’t care about it.
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You should have attempted to vigilante kill somebody. That would have helped prove your role and you know it. Even if it would have failed anyway, there's no way you'd have known that and at least try over protecting FinalArcadia.

Zexy said:
A mason-like role?
Guess that's Encryptor, lots of mafia get it, even more use it on Night 1 to block Day 2...
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Elementar called it neighbours, not masons, which I figure is because lately on Bulbagarden the terms masons seems to have phased out and the term neighbours caught on instead. That said I completely trust my neighbour because the character they are has to be Town. We have our own roles, which is one of the reasons why I won't be sharing conversations we've had together.
 
TheCapsFan said:
I think I'm thinking of this in the wrong way here. I think the best thing to do right now is just assume the claims are telling the truth.

That being said, if any one of Klavier Gavin, jackatlasred, or Elieson flip scum, the others are likely to be scum as well.
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does not compute

does not compute
 
Elieson said:
HD

Why are you holding off the vote again? I didnt see you answer it and I know someone else asked you
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TheCapsFan asked but then he noticed I answered Ghostly already. I didn't think I needed to explain it first because I thought it was common knowledge that it's good to avoid hammers to have more time in the game.

Oh yea nullread on HD, IT'S mostly on meta. He seems fine but it's weird to me to not see him leading the pack, despite him already admitting his reasons fornit.
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Completely untrue. I've lead the pack both Day 1 and Day 2 on Olive and Hellcrow respectively until I didn't find my vote to be the optimal choice anymore. Today is lynch Zexy day, and the plan for tomorrow is to lead the pack to lynch Matrix. You might be getting the impression that I'm not as much of a leader because there are more vocal voices in the game who are consistent in their vocal approach instead of just me.
 
jackatlasred said:
Actually guys my ability is to tell one person my real alignment. I know it'll make me seem scum, but my other role is actually a one time anything blocker. I actually aimed my ability at HD. I have yet to use my one time blocker.
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Why did you choose Human to send it to?

But this does sound like a friendly neighbor, and mafiascum says that those are necessarily town. Human's theory that Bonnie could fit does sound like it makes sense with the abilities, though if jack is truthful and has a roleblock aspect to his role, then that makes me even more doubtful of Zexy being town with his roleblock power in the JOAT.
 
Elieson said:
Oh yea nullread on HD, IT'S mostly on meta. He seems fine but it's weird to me to not see him leading the pack, despite him already admitting his reasons fornit.
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also, fyi, nowhere in my explanation about my change of tone to post in a more serious manner than the usual "jokery Human" did I use it as an explanation for being more submissive.

FinalArcadia said:
Why did you choose Human to send it to?

But this does sound like a friendly neighbor, and mafiascum says that those are necessarily town. Human's theory that Bonnie could fit does sound like it makes sense with the abilities, though if jack is truthful and has a roleblock aspect to his role, then that makes me even more doubtful of Zexy being town with his roleblock power in the JOAT.
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Probably because I said I suspected him and he trusted me.

HumanDawn said:
Day 2 Vote Count:

Hellcrow (7) - Klavier Gavin, Max1996, Elieson, MatrixChap, Lone_Garurumon, Hellcrow, Zexy
Zexy (6) - GastlyGibus, Ghostly, HumanDawn, FinalArcadia, Seth Rollins, Space

People who did not vote: jackatlasred, Pikochu, Olive (can't), moonbird (inactive)

If Zexy is Mafia:

People I suspect that are potentially scum on the wagon: MatrixChap, Lone_Garurumon

People I suspect could potentially be scum bussing Zexy: Seth Rollins/maybe Space

People I suspect could potentially be Mafia who decided not to vote: jackatlasred/maybe Pikochu

I'd recommend others to do this too.
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I'd still like this to be done tbh. Mine has changed to:

If Zexy is Mafia:

People I suspect that are potentially scum on the wagon: MatrixChap, Lone_Garurumon

People I suspect could potentially be scum bussing Zexy: Space

People I suspect could potentially be Mafia who decided not to vote: TheCapsFan/maybe Pikochu

 
Other random things I've determined after Seth's outting:

- WolfOwl was likely the only vig in the game. This is because any vig shot last night would have killed Klavier Gavin. There is still the possibility that there is an X-Shot vig that decided to shoot last night, but Zexy was essentially the perfect vig shot last night; I don't see why any sensible vig wouldn't shoot him.
- If there is a cult, Klavier Gavin is now part of it and the cult leader is within Seth's results. I don't want to dismiss the cult theory entirely until we hear from @Olive but I'm a lot less sure of it now.
- There is confirmed to be a doctor in the game (lol that one's kind of obvious but I'll just say it anyway)
- At least 9 of the remaining 16 players in the game have active roles, including KG
- Cop is not confirmed to be in the game with Jack's FN claim.

Speaking of jack's FN claim, the reason I'm not trusting it 100% is that Elie essentially gave it to him. Here's how I imagine what just happened between Elie and jack:

Imagine that you're talking with a group of people you don't know, but your friend is there. In order to make yourself look cool to these other people, you're all like "hey I smoked weed last night," because that's what cool kids do. Of course you didn't ACTUALLY smoke weed, because, you know, that's illegal where you live. Your friend, however, is kind of a rebel, and has done it before. So when the other people are like "hey man that's cool, where'd you get it?" you have no idea what to respond with, because you didn't actually smoke weed. Instead your friend says "I hear Lil' Johnny sells that stuff for cheap right down the road!" essentially giving you an out. You say "Yeah, I bought some from him earlier in the week. It was a good deal, bruh," and you carry on with your life, looking 100% cooler than you did when you first started talking with them.

This is the one sliver of doubt in my mind that is preventing me from trusting Jack's claim and townclearing KG. Don't you find it a little weird how Elieson says to Klavier "yeah there's this role that I've used offsite that is rare enough on this forum that people have to go to mafiascum wiki to figure out what it is, and it allows you to do XYZ," and then jack pipes up right after he says this all like "ayyy that's me lmao?" And then Jack claims that there's a second part to his role that's a roleblocker, a traditionally mafia-sided role?

Let's just say KG and jack are mafia. With the loss of Zexy, they can clear both KG and jack. KG uses his ability, and claims that he received some sort of info that jack is town. To "confirm" jack as cleared, Elie gives jack a fakeclaim/out for things to make sense, the FN. As a result, both jack and KG are essentially cleared. Here, jack is "you" and Elie is "your friend."

@HumanDawn does that answer your question? I know that may not make direct sense but I think the overall point is there.

That being said, this is just my mind providing a tinfoil theory that's got like less than a 5% chance of being true. There are bigger suspects out there that should be pursued. Like @MatrixChap .
 
I'm gonna reply to all of this. Lighting rod how didn't I think of that dammit

I lmao'd at Caps' stories.
 
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