Rumours/Fakes/Leaks Discussion Thread

[RileyXY1]

While it is more expensive to make a brand new game, those tend to have more sales and more positive reception than a port. That's why the initial pair always sells more than the third version and why they were phased out entirely.

 

[PurplePopplio]

People just assumed that third versions were dead when it was never confirmed. Game Freak just took a break from third versions to try out new ideas like sequels.

 

[SUP3RN0VA]

While it is more expensive to make a brand new game, those tend to have more sales and more positive reception than a port. That's why the initial pair always sells more than the third version and why they were phased out entirely.

I believe it is safe to assume that Pokémon Stars is more than just a "port" of Sun and Moon. i have a hard time believing that Gamefreak want to bring back third versions only to do it the same way they used to. If Pokémon Stars is real and it is a third version, it is going to be much different than how they used to handle third versions. I doubt it is safe to assume it will just be a port. If everything is true, then Gamefreak have a reason for phasing third versions back in.

 

[Alolan Coconut]

While it is more expensive to make a brand new game, those tend to have more sales and more positive reception than a port. That's why the initial pair always sells more than the third version and why they were phased out entirely.

Platinum says Hi.

 

[Falconwing]

Ports are not inheritantly bad. And Pokemon rarely does straight ports. Most people would look at Gen IV and say Platinum was an improvement and well worth it. People would look at Gen III and say Emerald had it all. People would look at the remakes and call them easily superior to the originals. Stars will likely follow this pattern.

 

[RileyXY1]

Ports are not inheritantly bad. And Pokemon rarely does straight ports. Most people would look at Gen IV and say Platinum was an improvement and well worth it. People would look at Gen III and say Emerald had it all. People would look at the remakes and call them easily superior to the originals. Stars will likely follow this pattern.

I'm not talking about popularity. I'm talking about sales. New games sell better. End of story.

 

[Alolan Coconut]

I'm not talking about popularity. I'm talking about sales. New games sell better. End of story.

Nobody disagrees with you on that. But a new game doesn't always have to top its predecessor in terms of sales. Don't forget that the gaming industry is a very dynamic market. By releasing third and improved versions Pokemon keeps its relevance. Releasing third versions also helps out people that missed out on the primary games and last but certainly not the least: third versions do have sales and profit. And a little profit is still better than no profit at all.

 

[Falconwing]

I'm not talking about popularity. I'm talking about sales. New games sell better. End of story.

That's a pretty broad generalization to be honest. And when it comes to Pokemon isn't necessarily true.

 

[Glaceon Mage]

The Switch is a significantly better choice than New 3DS... The Switch can't be the Wii U. If Nintendo wants to stay in the game, they need a good first year for the system.

Stars, if real, would be a draw for the Switch and help it get the Playerbase Nintedo desperately needs it to have alongside Mexico Mario, Splatoon 2(? Not sure if it was confirmed port or sequel), and BotW, possibly also alongside the rumored ports, Pikmin, and Mario/Rabbids thing Dale talked about.

(In Japan there's also some draw due to DQXI, saying some because it's probably going to lose to the 3DS and/or PS4 version of the game sales wise. The Japanese fandom for DQ is huge though, unlike in the west, so it's still worth pointing out. This only applies to Japan, US and Europe likely won't be getting it until 2018 at the earliest, and our fandom is much smaller than the one in Japan so it's not nearly as big of a deal).

As far as Nintendo's needs go, Switch is the best choice for them. Get stuff to buy on that system, and get it fast (the Wii U didn't win any races there).

You can't sell $250 consoles without multiple games, after all.

 

[RileyXY1]

Having the Switch's launch lineup consist almost entirely of ports will be asking for failure. People want new games. That new Mario game and Breath of the Wild just won't cut it.

 

[Master Cyrus]

Having the Switch's launch lineup consist almost entirely of ports will be asking for failure. People want new games. That new Mario game and Breath of the Wild just won't cut it.

Why won't they cut it?

For that matter how do you know what the launch line up is?

 

[Falconwing]

Having the Switch's launch lineup consist almost entirely of ports will be asking for failure. People want new games. That new Mario game and Breath of the Wild just won't cut it.

But if they're enhanced ports of games that sold poorly on the last console, then it sounds to me like a lot of people might be interested in them on a the Switch.

 

[RileyXY1]

Why won't they cut it?

For that matter how do you know what the launch line up is?

Laura Dale has posted a list of what the launch lineup for the Switch is. Also, ports will sell horrible because people will see them as something that they already played.

 

[djinnEXE]

Laura Dale has posted a list of what the launch lineup for the Switch is. Also, ports will sell horrible because people will see them as something that they already played.

List those Nintendo ports then look up those sales numbers.
Nintendo isn't only trying to sell the Switch to the 4.5 million people who bought Splatoon or the 8M who bought Mario Kart 8. There is a bigger audience out there who hasn't played these games.
Stop trying to reach anything just to make your arguments valid.

Honestly Riley. Do you want Pokemon Stars on a weak system like the 3DS that will hold it back or do you want it on the Switch where they'll be able to do much more. And if you're a Pokemon fan you'll buy the Switch eventually for Pokemon. Wouldn't you want a better version of Stars on the Switch then an inferior version on the 3DS

 

[Master Cyrus]

Laura Dale has posted a list of what the launch lineup for the Switch is. Also, ports will sell horrible because people will see them as something that they already played.

You mean the source you called fake when she confirmed the existence of stars?

 

[Arceus the Dragon]

The 3DS is not a weak system but GF are getting closer to moving to the next handheld. The source about Stars is still yet to be confirmed so Stars is still a rumor. 3DS is not inferior and can handle one more main series game.

 

[PurplePopplio]

Ports of games that almost no played would be new to most people.

 

[djinnEXE]

The 3DS is not a weak system but GF are getting closer to moving to the next handheld. The source about Stars is still yet to be confirmed so Stars is still a rumor. 3DS is not inferior and can handle one more main series game.

To give you a picture of how weak the 3DS is
There is this gaming tablet called the Nvidia shield K1 you can get for less then $200. That thing is stronger then the WIIU and it's mobile technology

 

[Arceus the Dragon]

To give you a picture of how weak the 3DS is
There is this gaming tablet called the Nvidia shield K1 you can get for less then $200. That thing is stronger then the WIIU and it's mobile technology

Doesn't matter about some gaming tablet. 3DS is still good and can still play games regardless of what some think.

 

[djinnEXE]

Doesn't matter about some gaming tablet. 3DS is still good and can still play games regardless of what some think.

We never said it couldn't play games
But we want better, better visuals, better features
The 3DS can't deliver that