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Mafia Fire Emblem Fates Mafia ~ Endgame ~ (Together We Fall) ~ Vallite Forces Win

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Midorikawa said:
I also just realized human could be a cult....it would fit corrin. I don't even know at this point.
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If I was part of a cult I think I'd have known that. My role doesn't mention any cult either, I just have a normal Town role.
 
TheCapsFan said:
So I guess it would make sense that they both want to defeat each other, but share a common enemy in Vallite. I guess this means that Vallite in this instance acts as the mafia in this game. I think our primary focus, Nohr or Hoshido, should be to seek out the Vallite and lynch them.
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I agree completely. The main conflict in Relevation was that Hoshido and Nohr thought they needed to defeat each other and that the Vallites were working with their opposing side when they caused destruction when they were working with neither. It could just be the gimmick of the game and eventually everyone joins Corrin's Army? That would make sense with the game being bastard comment and if I were to design the game I'd probably put it in.
 
(Will notifications work please?! I just thought the thread wasn't moving until I just checked. >.>;; )

At this point, do we have any strong cases?? @Midorikawa
 
FinalArcadia said:
So far, Alolan Ninetales and Skullcrow are giving me slight town vibes. Ninetales - even though I disagree with their thoughts on being serious D1 - seems very genuine, and I kind of doubt a scum player who hasn't played in a while would want to stir the pot in saying serious players could be suspicious since that could backfire hard. Skullcrow is more just a feeling, and as scum he seems more likely to watch from the shadows even early on. Too early for anything solid of course, but that's some preliminary reads.

As far as scum goes, nothing really stands out as very scummy yet. But I do agree with Midorikawa about the CWAC from SwordMaster, who still has fluffy posts and out-of-nowhere is giving info about their character (saying its a Nohrian).

@SwordMaster♪
Why give any information about your role this early? And when nobody questioned it so far? on a different note, I like your
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If you really need to defeat two factions why are you Town reading and scum reading? What is the point of it? It would only make sense if you didn't know that they there was any other faction, and you can't be part of Corrin's Army because you said you need two factions out.
 
Rocket Queen said:
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Vote: SwordMaster♪
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NOTE: HiPS is either Vallite or Hoshido.

HumanDawn said:
It could just be the gimmick of the game and eventually everyone joins Corrin's Army?
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I'm starting to think your role is cultist.
 
HumanDawn said:
If you really need to defeat two factions why are you Town reading and scum reading? What is the point of it? It would only make sense if you didn't know that they there was any other faction, and you can't be part of Corrin's Army because you said you need two factions out.
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Because the last time I looked at my role PM was when I confirmed and I didn't remember there being any specifics other than defeating "other factions." It took until I looked in-thread this morning to go look back at my role PM, and then I noticed that the other factions were indeed named as Vallite Forces and the other faction which I will not name. So prior to that, I was working as if this was a normal game.

And if I'm not part of Corrin's Army like you said - and I am not, yeah - then that really only leaves the other three. And if I'm trying to target Vallites, then I have to be either Hoshido or Nohr aligned. Unless you think I'm an independent, but I'm not.

To be honest, I really do not know how to approach this game best now knowing what we know, but given that you're outright saying that you're not Nohr or Hoshido and we have no confirmation of Corrin's Army existing as far as I can tell, that's why I've kept my vote. Numbers-wise, I just don't see how 4 factions could fit? And why the Corrin one isn't mentioned in the other win-cons?
 
It's rather strange that some people need to defeat two unnamed factions but some need to defeat two named ones. Because so far this is what it seems like we have assuming people are telling the truth.

- Nohr
- Hoshido
- Vallite Forces
- Corrin's Army

Who stands to eliminate two factions regardless of who they are in terms of plot?
 
HumanDawn said:
I agree completely. The main conflict in Relevation was that Hoshido and Nohr thought they needed to defeat each other and that the Vallites were working with their opposing side when they caused destruction when they were working with neither. It could just be the gimmick of the game and eventually everyone joins Corrin's Army? That would make sense with the game being bastard comment and if I were to design the game I'd probably put it in.
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That's why I think going after vallite first is best.
Alolan Ninetales said:
(Will notifications work please?! I just thought the thread wasn't moving until I just checked. >.>;; )

At this point, do we have any strong cases?? @Midorikawa
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If we did I would be voting it.

And wow buddied D1 two games in a row.

Do remember u could be your enemy :p

And on the notifications make sure you are watching the thread. Also there's an option for notifications to not go away until you check them. It's wonderful.
 
TheCapsFan said:
NOTE: HiPS is either Vallite or Hoshido.
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Killing him would at the very least, be a 50-50 choice between Vallite (who is bound to be the enemy of Hoshido, Nohr and the hypothetical Corrin's Army) or Hoshido who from the current discussion would at least be potentially an enemy of two of the factions (Nohr and Vallite).

Seeing as a Vallite kill is best for the majority townie factions and seems to be the best lead...

Unvote: DarthWolf13

Vote: Rocket Queen

(Also your quick bandwaggoning on Human)
 
TheCapsFan said:
@Midorikawa Do you believe HD is cultist? If so I think he may be worth taking out. Cultist can be just as dangerous as SK depending on the added abilities.
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I know I'm not Mido, but I have to think that the possibility is very strong. Given what we know about the plot of the relevant game, there's a very strong chance that 'Corrin's Army' is a cult faction.

EDIT: Oh and why would you think I'm Vallite considering I voted for one right away. Considering I'm pretty sure that Corrin's Army = Vallite.
 
What reason, especially in canon, would Corrin associate with Vallite in malice?
 
Iteru said:
It's rather strange that some people need to defeat two unnamed factions but some need to defeat two named ones. Because so far this is what it seems like we have assuming people are telling the truth.

- Nohr
- Hoshido
- Vallite Forces
- Corrin's Army

Who stands to eliminate two factions regardless of who they are in terms of plot?
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Vallite.

@TheCapsFan i honestly don't know what to think.

@HumanDawn I think it best you claim honestly.

Also I'm at work so don't expect too much from me.
 
Ends up King / Queen of Valla. Sounds pretty Vallite to me.

I just don't see this as a four faction game. Not enough players. And given we know three of the factions given our role PMs...
 
TheCapsFan said:
I'm starting to think your role is cultist.
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My role only confirms that Nightkills are definitely in the game. If I was a Cultist wouldn't I know that claiming my faction would seriously risk me being thought of as one when there are the Nohrian and Hoshido ones around? Or well, I'd expect the Role PM to be clear about multiple factions to make them join you. I don't know if Corrin is an actual cultist or not but I am part of his army.

Iteru said:
It's rather strange that some people need to defeat two unnamed factions but some need to defeat two named ones. Because so far this is what it seems like we have assuming people are telling the truth.

- Nohr
- Hoshido
- Vallite Forces
- Corrin's Army

Who stands to eliminate two factions regardless of who they are in terms of plot?
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Vallite, Nohr and Hoshido's for sure. Corrin's Army only sought to unite Nohr and Hoshido by telling them that the Vallite's are the true villain and did not pose any threat to either faction.

FinalArcadia said:
Because the last time I looked at my role PM was when I confirmed and I didn't remember there being any specifics other than defeating "other factions." It took until I looked in-thread this morning to go look back at my role PM, and then I noticed that the other factions were indeed named as Vallite Forces and the other faction which I will not name. So prior to that, I was working as if this was a normal game.

And if I'm not part of Corrin's Army like you said - and I am not, yeah - then that really only leaves the other three. And if I'm trying to target Vallites, then I have to be either Hoshido or Nohr aligned. Unless you think I'm an independent, but I'm not.

To be honest, I really do not know how to approach this game best now knowing what we know, but given that you're outright saying that you're not Nohr or Hoshido and we have no confirmation of Corrin's Army existing as far as I can tell, that's why I've kept my vote. Numbers-wise, I just don't see how 4 factions could fit? And why the Corrin one isn't mentioned in the other win-cons?
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Okay, if it's named who the enemies are, then what was SwordMaster or whoever it was saying that the army enemy names are not mentioned? Somebody's got to be lying.

Not knowing how to best approach the game does not excuse a serious lack of logic being used. OK, if 4 factions do not fit then which side would Corrin be? You could pull the argument that Corrin is actually the Mafia who went crazy and wants Nohr and Hoshido dead, but then why if I was part of the Vallite Forces would I say I'm part of Corrin's Army? One lynch on a Vallite Force revealing that it's Corrin and his retainers would mean that I'm lying and I'd be next on the chopping block. The Corrin's Army win con not being mentioned might have to do with it being more Independent because apparently it's its own thing. The only faction that benefits from killing any member of Corrin's Army is the Vallite Forces because it is in direct opposition to them since I only need the Vallite Forces dead. The more I think about it the more it makes sense that if Corrin's Army beats the Vallite Forces first then everyone else wins.
 
Rocket Queen said:
Ends up King / Queen of Valla. Sounds pretty Vallite to me.

I just don't see this as a four faction game. Not enough players. And given we know three of the factions given our role PMs...
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He also seeks peace with Nohr and Hoshido as the King/Queen.

Knowing that you are either Vallite or Hoshido, your death at the very least will give us something to go by on future days because then we can analyse your voting based on further context.
 
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