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MCH Multiverse 2: Evil vs Oblivion - Day 6 - 11/17/2017

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Well, Max didn't really implicate much after going through his posts via the search function (it isn't that bad, actually).

The only notable things are his joke vote on All Might to start the game, and then some light defending of All Might afterwards when All Might took some heat. Could be white knighting or distancing - hard to tell without knowing much about his meta.

Any thoughts?
 
Zexy said:
AP was a good kill because he wouldn't be protected instead of the Cop or Doc and he had a check; so the only way to stop both AP's check, the Cop and get a kill in without much risk of Doc protection would be blocking the Cop, leaving the Doc be (hoping he wouldn't protect AP) and kill AP, which is what happened. This is why I think AP would be the best kill and why there needs to be an experienced mafioso to figure this out. I never said you said Cheff/Pika are scum, what I said is that jd tried to shade Cheff/Pika based on what AP said and that it felt scummy. You're all good.
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Ah ya, OK, I get what you were saying. I just like to try looking at all sides, so while I thought jd was reaching, I didn't necessarily dislike his post is basically what I was trying to get at but I'm bad at words sometimes XD

Trying to protect which scumbud?
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Looked at first like you were trying to protect Max by diverting the attention over to someone else.

I still think your vote on Max looked rather bussy, but I like this post overall so you're looking better in my eyes.

As for Max, he really didn't give us much to go on aside from his buddying with MegaPod (who is an un-cc'd pr). I'm thinking All Might would be a decent option for tomorrow.
 
funnier6 subs for Elementar
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    Getting kind of sleepy, here’s a rudimentary version of my town reads.

    Town:
    AE
    MP (I guess I’ll have to start calling you that instead of Fawful)
    Labrev I think the name is
    Midori

    AE and MP are uncounterclaimed cop and doctor but max’s flip basically confirmed them anyway.

    Lab has been extremely solvy town from what I’ve seen, very impressive if he can do that as scum.

    Midori feels a lot more genuine than last game, probably the only way to read her when otherwise she’s practically the same.

    This isn’t everything but I wanted to post something before I lose my thoughts. I’ll be back in an hourish with the rest of my reads.
    Labrev said:
    Well, Max didn't really implicate much after going through his posts via the search function (it isn't that bad, actually).

    The only notable things are his joke vote on All Might to start the game, and then some light defending of All Might afterwards when All Might took some heat. Could be white knighting or distancing - hard to tell without knowing much about his meta.

    Any thoughts?
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    What does white knighting mean?
     
    Kay here we go one more time.

    Town:
    AE
    MP
    Lab
    Midori
    Pika- really like his posts so far, much better than last game.

    These are pretty die hard town reads, normally there’s one scum in my town reads but I don’t believe this is the case this time.

    Null:

    @CheffOfGames- I just reread the thread and I’ve already forgotten just about everything you’ve said, can you make me a reads list or quote it for me?

    Mellow Ezlo- I see all of your posts both ways and it’s giving me a headache, I’m convinced your one way and the next second the other. >_< Maybe I’ll see clearer in the morning.

    All might- your posts mostly make me wonder what the heck you’re doing which is normally a town read but you’ve been doing it after quite long droughts of saying anything at all, thoughts please.

    Scum:

    jdthebud- I need to iso you, I didn’t like your posts but I don’t remember specifically why, quote or make reads list please.

    Zexy- you haven’t been towny, idek if I’ve seen you use meta, what’s goin on? Your posts feel really out of the flow of the thread. Need to look at you again too~

    Oh yes I believe midori said something about zexys scum game being super obv- wait a minute, midori doesn’t use meta. o-o @Midorikawa I am confused.

    As long as we lynch in the above five people town should win pretty easy peasy.

    Sorry the null and scum reads are incoherent, I got distracted while typing and forgot I was gonna say, don’t worry I should be firing on all cylinders after I get some sleep.

    I multi quoted a bunch so let’s see if I can remember why.
    Pika_pika42 said:
    Thoughts

    On Megapod vs Aussie Eevee
    Megapod's initial vote on me looked okay. Someone had to start discussion, Megapod started it with a question for me and a vote to go along. Actually, just the question would have been fine honestly and then he could have voted me based on my answer with which he would have agreed or not. The thing I find weird here was that he kept the vote on me even after I answered, that too without asking further questions.

    Mido's post on questioning Megapod for the vote on me looks like generating more discussion. Overall positive vibes but NAI, she’s really good at this.

    Eevee's posts are consistently weird. His vote on Megapod was a bit of an overreaction. His self-vote was really bad and his overall attitude seems too jestery to be an actual jester. He could be paranoid townie but I don’t think I have ever seen Eevee play in this manner.

    Max seems to defend Megapod a lot. Don’t know what it says about him though.

    Mezlo’s posts are good. I like his thought process and mostly agree with what he’s trying to say.

    Not sure about voting any of them though.

    On Labrev’s Miller claim
    Willing to believe it. Miller and Indep Survivor (not if you’re Darth :p ) claims on D1 look mostly believable to me as there is a risk of being CCd and mafia doing that to invite unnecessary attention to themselves doesn’t seem logical to me.
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    This post is a drastic and very towny change from last game, much like.

    Mellow Ezlo said:
    2 people, actually. One is ALL MIGHT, who was here during the RVS silliness at the beginning and then disappeared, and MegaPod, who is our claimed doctor.

    Anyway, with less than an hour left, it's time for a reads list. Woohoo!!!

    Town

    AussieEevee     - I've had a town lean on him for pretty much the entire game so far, but his cop claim just solidifies that. Not much to say here.
    MegaPod - Weird behaviour during the early stages of the game, and the subject of a lengthy back-and-forth debacle earlier on, but he claimed Doctor and there hasn't been a cc.
    Labrev - I'm not used to Miller being such a common role, so I have a tendency to mistrust claims, but his posts look good anyway. He's contributing well and making very fair points.
    AnimePsyclone - On here only because of the claim, but I am very wary.
    Midorikawa - This is more of a hunch than anything. I like what I've seen from her posts, but I'm told she is really good as scum (and I witnessed that myself in OoT Mafia) so I'm wary, but she's leaning town based on what she's said so far.

    Neutral

    Pika_pika42     - He hasn't done a ton yet, but I don't feel inclined to scum read him. I think most of his posts have been pretty NAI though.
    Elementar, CheffOfGames, ALL MIGHT - Very inactive, need to see more. Though I must bring attention to ALL MIGHT's currently active RVS vote on AP.
    jdthebud - Had a couple decent posts earlier on, but has disappeared since the AE/MP thing. He was the first person to call out AE's reaction to MP's original vote, and then later popped in to say he believed Labrev's claim and then disappeared again. Not much to go on here, feeling inclined to slightly scum read though.

    Scum

    Zexy     - This isn't a very big scum lean, but I noticed Zexy has been laying back quite a bit more than I remember him doing in OoT Mafia. His few posts have been alright, but looking back, they're actually somewhat CWAC-y as well, which doesn't seem typical from what little I know of him. Hard to read with his low post count though.

    Max1996 - Very CWAC-y. Hasn't done much himself aside from buddy with MP earlier on, and he still hasn't really posted many/any original thoughts. He also kept his vote on AE for a long time after the cop claim, until it was pointed out, even after an unofficial vote count had been posted. Of all the people involved in the AE/MP debacle, he stands out the most, and is my biggest scum lean at the moment. Though, if most people are uncomfortable lynching him, I'd be alright with an inactive lynch, particularly Cheff or ALL MIGHT since Elementar at least made one not bad post, or I'd be alright with a jd lynch as well. I'll be around until EoD, so if anybody thinks I should change my vote, I will comply.
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    This reads list is so good, I’ve been paranoaing for far too long on whether you’d bus max day one or not. My brain hurts. :(

    Honestly you just seem to be playing so well when this is your first game with most of these people, makes meh scared.
    CheffOfGames said:
    Not yet being up to date so had to find a moment to do so without being distracted, my reason why I was not really active D1 was because I usually don't say much anyways D1, wanting to keep in the background. I'm usually more active and useful in late game, especially with my current role.
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    Why you can’t be useful during the entire game? I need reads naoooow!

    And being like I’ll be active way later cause role is pretty similar to what pika tried to pull in the crossover and doesn’t make you look better.
    ALL MIGHT said:
    Oh hi, AussieEevee! I didn't need to know this, I was giving AE the option to share his target so that *we could narrow things down.

    *we = Town; don't need anyone taking that bit out of context. That already happened with the base post.

    Thought it might be a fancy variation for Cop that I'd never heard of. Thanks.

    1. It'd be plain dumb for a Mafioso to waltz up to the Cop and ask "Hey, bud, who'd you investigate last night?" Try again.
    2. Experienced players know who to strategically target/impede from using their actions. Sure, that might be a stupidly obvious observation to make, but it takes an experienced player to effectively call the shots. The Mafia didn't take any missteps in their Night actions. Which means that somebody familiar with the players here could deduce the perp, surely. I.e. Who'd be experienced enough?
    3. Maybe scum could benefit from it, but so could the Town. We [Town] need to know this information while the Cop is still alive because [realistically] he most likely won't survive the Night, so I thought it'd be prudent to [voluntarily] ask in advance.
    4. With the roleblocker on their side, they can practically keep both the Cop and Doc from ever touching them since they've already claimed. However, we [Town] do have an advantage with them not knowing the rest of the roles.
    5. Do I need to say anything else?

    For no apparent reason. Are you just following Labrev around?

    You seem to forget that I hail from ZD, and so does another player. I don't know how experienced everyone else here generally is, except for every OoT Mafia player who signed up for this one. Also, I fail to see how that's an attempt to redirect attention on to those nebulous, unspecified individuals; seems to me like you're casting some serious shade to look Town. But please, do tell me how sharing my input is a "scummy thing."

    This seems like a really easy claim to make. That's almost as easy as claiming the 1x Neighborizer, so easy it'd fool anybody.
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    I have no idea why I quoted this, probably because it gives me town emiya vibes.

    Anybody have any questions for me?
     
    funnier6 said:
    Oh yes I believe midori said something about zexys scum game being super obv- wait a minute, midori doesn’t use meta. o-o @Midorikawa I am confused
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    Check out superhero bonanza, where zexy and mido waste an entire day phase arguing about meta. Good times
     
    funnier6 said:
    Oh yes I believe midori said something about zexys scum game being super obv- wait a minute, midori doesn’t use meta. o-o @Midorikawa I am confused.
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    Yeah to me. I usually catch him as mafia. Then again I look to lynch him almost every game.......so I catch him often. Only in Artemis Fowl did he deceive me.
    AussieEevee said:
    Check out superhero bonanza, where zexy and mido waste an entire day phase arguing about meta. Good times
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    Oh when Zexy lynched doctor me when I was unable to get on :)

    Anyways on Zexy note: Last time I remember him being super neutral was in the 100 Mafia being I tried to lynch him there for it. He was town for you meta lovers. So I think it's something different this game, idk why though. Maybe indep, maybe some super awesome role, maybe some boring vanilla bum. Idk.
     
    That face when I've already claimed and can prove it. The only question is, who should I have a chat with?

    Vote: Max1996
     
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